Jesus is a God of conditional Love, not unconditional love.

[Mediate]

Emotions

Let's read who God love and who he died for

It's obvious you have not read the verse

John 3:15-18 (KJV)
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. [16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Who do God love and who did he die for?

Let's see if you can get this right

You also have to see that believing requires knowing and doing.

There are those who haven't heard.

This is why God looks at heart and intent.

It won't be what you DO or SAY, it will be your intent when you DO and SAY it.

Similarly. all will know Christ eventually and have a full choice.

For as I see a faded reflection of myself in a mirror, I will know me, as I am fully known.

We will all get to know ourselves truly inside out.

So ask yourself, when you know yourself of ALL your intent and all your true motive as God does, would you say 'look God, I have believed in you faultlessly. Look at the miracles I have performed for you'?

Or will it be, as everyone else, 'God I am unworthy. I don't deserve even forgiveness'.

Humility is the very means to truth.

 

[Bjornke]

You also have to see that believing requires knowing and doing.

There are those who haven't heard.

This is why God looks at heart and intent.

It won't be what you DO or SAY, it will be your intent when you DO and SAY it.

Similarly. all will know Christ eventually and have a full choice.

For as I see a faded reflection of myself in a mirror, I will know me, as I am fully known.

We will all get to know ourselves truly inside out.

So ask yourself, when you know yourself of ALL your intent and all your true motive as God does, would you say 'look God, I have believed in you faultlessly. Look at the miracles I have performed for you'?

Or will it be, as everyone else, 'God I am unworthy. I don't deserve even forgiveness'.

Humility is the very means to truth.

Indeed for those who do not know, will have a chance to know, and those who will know, will have to find humility to be saved.

But as stated previously, why would a "conditionally" loving God offer even the choice to find humility in ourselves if he is already choosing who he wants to love and who he doesn't?

Ozell I pray for you because you're heart is hardened and your doctrine is the one full of false teachings and hate. May God forgive you for distorting His love and truth. Amen.

 

[Bjornke]

This is your emotions speaking conditioned by false teaching

Let me remind you of Titus 3:5
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

We were not saved or loved because we "followed" his commandments. But if we love Him, then we will follow His commandments.

I found Christ on my own, without a Church, without a Christian Family, without a Christian friend. I found God on my own, and therefor all I know is from the Bible and the Holy Spirit and the words thereof in the Bible which I found to be my saving grace in my darkest hour.

I am not conditioned by false teaching, I am knowing what the Bible says, and you obviously do not. Therefor I pray for you, that you may find the real truth, and may find the real love, and the real you, so that you may know Him, and be forgiven of your misuse and distortion of the word.

 

[ozell]

You also have to see that believing requires knowing and doing.

There are those who haven't heard.

This is why God looks at heart and intent.

It won't be what you DO or SAY, it will be your intent when you DO and SAY it.

Similarly. all will know Christ eventually and have a full choice.

For as I see a faded reflection of myself in a mirror, I will know me, as I am fully known.

We will all get to know ourselves truly inside out.

So ask yourself, when you know yourself of ALL your intent and all your true motive as God does, would you say 'look God, I have believed in you faultlessly. Look at the miracles I have performed for you'?

Or will it be, as everyone else, 'God I am unworthy. I don't deserve even forgiveness'.

Humility is the very means to truth.

Is God love unconditional?

 

[Blain]

Yes god's love in unconditional he created us outof love he died for us out of love his entire plan for the universe was to have a loving relationship with him.

 

[ozell]

Let me remind you of Titus 3:5
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

We were not saved or loved because we "followed" his commandments. But if we love Him, then we will follow His commandments.

I found Christ on my own, without a Church, without a Christian Family, without a Christian friend. I found God on my own, and therefor all I know is from the Bible and the Holy Spirit and the words thereof in the Bible which I found to be my saving grace in my darkest hour.

I am not conditioned by false teaching, I am knowing what the Bible says, and you obviously do not. Therefor I pray for you, that you may find the real truth, and may find the real love, and the real you, so that you may know Him, and be forgiven of your misuse and distortion of the word.

Your response is emotional

You are loved by what you do God said it

1 John 5:2-3 (KJV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

What part of this do you not understand?

 

[angelofmercy]

Is God love unconditional?

YES! Does God send the sun to shine on both the good and evil men?

 

[ozell]

Yes god's love in unconditional he created us outof love he died for us out of love his entire plan for the universe was to have a loving relationship with him.

Where is this written ?

1 John 5:2-3 (KJV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Show me the unconditional part here?

 

[Blain]

...... wan't it said in the bible that we were not saved by works? doesn't the same apply to god's love? and also we keep his commandment out of love for him not because we have to earn his love because that is impossible there is nothing we can do even if we lived for a thousand years to earn his infinint love

 

[ozell]

YES! Does God send the sun to shine on both the good and evil men?

Where was the sun when the Lord drowned a creation?

Genesis 6:5,7 (KJV)
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. [7] And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Notice the conditions that led to the death of a world
God love is conditional

 

[ozell]

...... wan't it said in the bible that we were not saved by works? doesn't the same apply to god's love? and also we keep his commandment out of love for him not because we have to earn his love because that is impossible there is nothing we can do even if we lived for a thousand years to earn his infinint love

Do you love God? If so Jesus said do this

John 14:15 (KJV)
If ye love me, keep my commandments

God said he loves you if you do this?

1 John 5:2-3 (KJV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The question is do you believe this?

 

[ozell]

The problem is most don't know what righteousness is

Well here it is for those who don't know

Deuteronomy 6:1,24-25 (KJV)
Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the Lord your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it: [24] And the Lord commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the Lord our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. [25] And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the Lord our God, as he hath commanded us.

 

[Blain]

Are you serious?If god's love was conditional and only for those who obeyed him why would he bother to sacrifice his son for ALL SINNSERS? And as for you telling blasphany or however you spell that about the story of the flood you might want to be careful about saying bull crap like that. If you think you are so smart and since you clearly think you are right even though all the evidence points to ( For god so loved the world he gave his only son) go tell god how ( conditional his love is) because all you are doing is slapping him in the face with what you are saying

 

[ozell]

Are you serious?If god's love was conditional and only for those who obeyed him why would he bother to sacrifice his son for ALL SINNSERS? And as for you telling blasphany or however you spell that about the story of the flood you might want to be careful about saying bull crap like that. If you think you are so smart and since you clearly think you are right even though all the evidence points to ( For god so loved the world he gave his only son) go tell god how ( conditional his love is) because all you are doing is slapping him in the face with what you are saying

Put me the verses to support your statement

You been told all your life that God love is unconditional yet you can't prove it

Put me the verse that you are talking about

 

[ozell]

Why did Jesus drown a entire creation?

What was the reason?

 

[ozell]

Where wa the love?

Genesis 6:17 (KJV)
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

Do you all understand Jesus killed babies, mothers, old women and old men
Pregnant mothers, people wil illnesses and handicapped

What part do you not understand about God's love?

Genesis 7:21-23 (KJV)
And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: [22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land , died. [23] And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive , and they that were with him in the ark.

All the people who we generally care about died, babies, newborne, pregnant women
Died in the flood by a God of Condituonal love, not unconditional love as some of us have been programmed to think

 

[ozell]

Lets read what else that the God who you all think love everyone did to those people who were not
on the ark

Genesis 7:15-16 (KJV)
And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. [16] And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.

The Lord closed the ark doors and shut the people on the ark in

This means he shut the people outside the ark OUT

So much for love!

Lets read the bible and the the example the Lord left an get away from emotion, doctrine and opinions.

 

[Blain]

God's love needs no proof that's what faith is, do you believe in god? there is no proof he exist according to many ppl but again that is what faith is. and again be careful what you say god is very patient but that doesn't mean you can whatever you want about him. If you are a christian then there is no excuse for what you say. I admit i may not be handling this situation correctly but i will not stand by and let you dishoner Jesus. I have felt god's love before because i was in his arms and his love is so amazing i begged him to let me come home to him but i heard him tell me to be strong for him . I don't care why you say such horrible things about god but luckily god is merciful

 

[weakness]

one of God's condition for being holy is keeping his dietary law!

Lev 11:44 For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Lev 11:45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.

46: This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:

47: To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

It is not what goes into a mans belly the defiles him ,It is what comes out of his heart that defiles a man (or woman) All thing are lawful but all thing are do not edify Therefore if anything I eat and offend my brother I will not eat that so as not to defile his conscience , not mine.

 

[weakness]

It is true that many have not received the Truth.

Grace could have one believe they can continue doing abominable things with no consequence after all they said their sinners Prayer and have now been giving a free pass!!!

Yahshua the Messiah suffered for us, so that we can be forgiven and pardoned for our sins.

Here is scripture to really put that message across.


Hebrews 10

when the father looks at us he sees Jesus (hopefully) for we are dead and our life is hide in Christ Not enough is written here about the life we now live we live by the faith of the son of God in us , He is made unto us sanctification, wisdom, he is our rigorousness, our knowledge and wisdom ,our sanctification,he is made every thing to us, that's why we can live godly lives for it is not us....but Christ living in us that makes us in everything acceptable unto God.Christ who is our life,this is the work of god that we are implored to do ,to believe on him and this is our labor to labor to enter into his rest, and for some of you this is not a reason to continue in sin for whom we yield ourselves servants to obey , those servants we are whether servants of sin unto death or servants of God unto holiness. The grace and peace of god be with you unto the end.