1 Corinthians Chapter 1...Grammar Study

GreenNnice · Nov 8, 2012

Christ peeps, we are made by who? God. Right, in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
God created everything in it, you, me, and, a guy named 'sue,' 'and, 'a boy named sue,' too. Get it ! God gave YOU your ability, your creativity, your desire, to have written THAT million dollar song ! Or, He gave YOU the ability to pop OUT a guy named 'Sue.'. Eww, really now, who EVER would want to name their baby boy, 'Sue.' O.0 ..... Maybe, 'Sue-Ellen,' not 'Sue.'

Johnny Cash, if knowing God, heard from Him THE inspiration for his song created

All of Him hear from.Him. Our job is simple: listen ... And , what else? I think Hebrews 3:15 gives that answer well. Yes, it does . OBEY

But, yeah, rewind , whose ways did Paul say he was following, who was working through Paul? Paul's own head knowledge that was asking the Corinth folk, way back in chapter 1 of this study, to not be so divisive with one other----taking each other to court, quarreling over who was best speaker and who to follow, like Apollos, Paul, Or, Christ? And, Paul, a studied man of wisdom, leadership (head knowledge), could easily have spoke through himself in telling people how to best get back into worshipful practice with the Lord. But PAUL spoke through who, whose words did Paul credit for his speaking, which, coincidentally, made the people appreciate, admire, respect Paulnall the more, and, they see Paul's unselfishness, maybe, much like the prism of understanding, perhaps, Saul (Paul) who stood by and watched Stephen get stoned. Why was this man getting stoned at such peace, you think Paul could have been thinking. Stephen saw the glory of God, looking up to.the sky. So would Saul, lol, just a short time later, as Saul was BLINDED by God a chapter Or so later , in Acts 9. And, God led the blind man into Damascus and three years with study, Paul became a great MISSIONARY for God !.The greatest ?

But, this man , Saul who became Paul, said Christ spoke through his body, Paul knew it was foolishness' for him to speak his own mind. And, when we put our faith in the Spirit of God and His power as Paul did we will , as Paul stated too 'have the mind of Christ.'

So , what is one good reason to , by faith accept the Spirit? Have the mind of Christ.

Foolish folly are we humans going our own way, I know, I'be seen God work in my own life in this way. I'm blessed wherever God has me, working for self now, but have been a speaker of sorts in corporations in past, and, God indtrumentally used me and guided my speech, which I prayed, HARD, to Him before going HP in front of corporate, large number gatherings, and, no doubt, Christ buoyed my said thoughts

cfultz3 · Nov 8, 2012

This is worth repeating.

Do you seek the wealth obatained in the world? Then of that world you shall obtain. And yet, at the end, who then possess the desires of your heart you have longed to obtain?

Why not seek the glory which awaits the sons of God, which possessions are everlastingly yours.

Seek you first the Kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added to you.

Look not for the mind which the world offers, but seek you the mind of Christ.

cfultz3 said:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1Co 3:18-21 No one is to deceive (completely seduce) himself. If any one seems to be wise among you* by (instrumentality) this age, he is to have caused himself to become (middle deponent) foolish (not knowing man's knowledge)so that he could have caused himself to become (middle deponent) wise (have the mind of Christ), seeing that (reason why we are to make our self foolish to the world) the wisdom from this world is foolishness (silliness, absurdity) around (dative: at/in the vicinity of) God, seeing that (continued reason) it has been written, 'He is entrapping (grasping as to capture) those who are wise in their own sophistry'. And again, 'LORD does know the reasonings (internal discussions) of the wise, that they are empty.' So also (in conclusion), no one is to boast in humans, seeing that (reason why not to boast in humans) all things are yours*.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Notes:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]no one is to deceive himself = This is still being spoken to those who are a temple of God, so give heed. He is saying that replacing Christ as the One who is leading you to all Truth with head knowledge will cause them to corrupt God's temple, which happens to be their body. That is, making the testimony (evidence given) of the Christ nothing more than just a mental understanding and laying aside that 'for real' fellowship one has when the dimness of their eye has been removed so that they may see the Light as not a conjecture, but as the actuality of Him existing being a reality to that one whose eye's light is the Light. Don't be deceived: God cannot be found in the wisdom and knowledge of man. But on the other hand, it is that wisdom and knowledge which attempts, and quiet successfully, to destroy that testimony which was given to you. That which is offered by man places doubt even on what you know to be reality, but that which is offered to you by God gives hope and is the end reality of all things. Take it from one who has been there. It is better to have Christ as your reality than that which even doubts what it teaches.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]he is to have caused himself to be foolish, so that...wise = that is, abandon the world's knowledge so that you can become a fool to it (one who lacks its knowledge), knowing that God has chosen for Himself the foolish things of this world to confound the knowledge from this world. If Christ is the wisdom from God, and you have abandoned the world's knowledge, then you will be made wise by being given the mind of Christ, the wisdom and knowledge of God. So, make a decision if you desire fleshly or spiritual knowledge. Do you desire approval from man or God?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]seeing that all things are yours* = no one has anything more to offer you then what you have in Christ. The eye has never seen, nor the ear has ever heard, nor has it entered into the mind of a man those things which await the sons of God. Let God be your knowledge, let Christ be your wisdom. In all things have the mind of Christ. A mind which was set on doing the will of the Father, not the will of the flesh. The world's knowledge is just not worth obtaining if it will destroy what has been already given to you. It is just not worth it, is it?[/FONT]

GreenNnice · Nov 9, 2012

Excellent to bring this up again, cee, from the master mind man named Paul, who knew what he was after in life, so many things, and none of which the world could dutifully offer, for nothing of spiritual things, thinking, otherwise, compares in value to the soaken, moth-ridden earthly things that so preoccupy mens' minds in this present, 'earthly things' world, for Paul knew that we do not have the thoughts motley ways of God, He is alone God, but we can have, and, Paul knew this, through faith, we can have, the 'mind of Christ,' which is quite a comforting, if not, daunting, thought of unadulterated blessings is it not for us, Christ peeps

Paul knew that it is God who provides the increase, not just of earthly possessions and people becoming blessings in your life as you pray, seek, follow Him with ALL our hearts, but Paul, knew, too, that men's minds increased not of a man's own puffed up doing but with Him thus made the glory of all things, could come the increase, including 'faith-fully' receiving the 'mind of Christ.'

psychomom · Nov 9, 2012

Chris, I popped in to say I am exhausted by the thought of all the work you put into these studies! lol

Thank you!

cfultz3 · Nov 9, 2012

psychomom said:

And thank you for this kindnesss of responding. Now, having reread that first sentence 4 times, it says what I want to say. lol. My mind hurts now

cfultz3 · Nov 9, 2012

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1Co 3:22-23 Whether it is Paul or Apollos or Cephas (Peter) or the world or life or death or things present or things to come, all things are yours*. And you* belong to Christ and Christ belongs to God[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Notes:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]all things are yours* (Present Active Indicative) = if all things are yours in the very present and with every indication of the future, then why try to obtain it through the world's knowledge? It is yours already, just continue to patiently wait for our Lord's return and He shall bring the things which the sons of God have been given by God, things which has never been imagined by any man's thoughts. Things so pleasant to the ears, that hope itself will become you reality. Look for your glory in Christ and your eyes shall see those things which await us.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]you* belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God = if I belong to Christ and not another, then it is to Him only I need to look at. Never has another man the possession of promises for those who look at Christ for their salvation. Only He can deliver what He has said. So, look not at another to bring you your physical heart's desires, but rest assure, the Lord shall fill your spiritual heart with all its longings. Nothing has been left out which has been given to the Son. If we belong to the Son, then we are also co-heirs with Him. And if Christ belongs to God, then is not the hope He offers more everlastingly secured? The world has nothing to offer but that which is temporary, so seek you your treasure in Heaven and relish in God's love for you.[/FONT]

psychomom · Nov 9, 2012

cfultz3 said:

That statement...this thought is just so very...

Beautiful. Wish I had understood that long ago.

GreenNnice · Nov 9, 2012

Let's look at what this book is telling us to do, Christ peeps.
What one word would you say describes these 1st verses?

KJV 1Co 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, KJV 1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: KJV 1Co 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from KJV 1Co 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, KJV 1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: KJV 1Co 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Let's look at verse one, how humbly is Paul speaking? In 3rd person (No Paul saying pompously, 'I am an apostle of Jesus Christ ....'

Paul, speaking not of his will but the will of God, by way of instrumentation of Christ. Notice how Paul gives glory to Jesus AND God?
Verse 2, what of that? Paul specifically speaks in the 'present tense': 'are sanctified in Christ Jesus,' who (are) called to be saints.

Sanctified=holy.
Called=chosen. I think of words 'higher calling' Doesn't Scripture say somewhere, those choosing Him have a 'higher calling?' This verse, prayer-fully, comes to mind: "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

Verse 3: Paul gives grace and peace . This, thus, explains the word, too, theming Paul's 1-3 verses:
Gratitude? Maybe. But, it's a more pOwerful word than just being 'grateful.' Attribution, green? No, the Lord leads, I say the word is both business and pleasure in quality, both to Corinth people, and, to God and Christ.

What word, green! Appreciation.

Paul speaks of an immediate appreciation of being sent by Christ through the will of God , lauded the people, telling them they ARE sanctified IF in Christ Jesus, which, of course, we read later in chapter, is Holy Spirit living, in 'sanctified in Christ Jesus' most thorough understanding. We be sanctified, made Holy by Christ living in us

That said, the people are going after the minds of men for their understanding of Christ, choosing Cephas (Peter), Apollos, Paul, who are all minds of the world, and, some, too, choose to model their mind after Christ, who we learn at the end of chapter two is whose mind we, indeed, have: 'the mind of Christ.'

Chapter 3 is again speaking by Paul of our using our minds as Christ intends, Paul 'plants,' and, Apollos 'waters,' but Christ produces the 'fill,' the produce. We are God's 'garden' (word is 'building' in Textus Receptus), we are to grow as the master gardener (TR says 'wisebuilder' ) works through our doing the planting and the watering) makes the growth happen, Or, TR word is 'maketh the increase.'

And, none good is produfed if what? Our foundation is NOT in Christ. It must be ! Christ is the chief cornerstone, He IS the foundation, we believers MUST base our Christianity off Him. Must !

For fire will come to our works IF Christ is not understood as in charge of the garden, overseer of us, over seer of the church , the body of Christ and the body of Christ's His !! He is the Great Shepherd

I go to where we're at now, I pray I said these thoughts from Him thus far, there is order, we need to fully attribute our goodness to His power in us, give gratitude for the work done in us, and, most importantly show appreciation of who is overseer of we, Christ peeps, Christ is God's, sitting at His right hand. May His Spirit in you speak wholly to you and your mind, in full appreciation of God's great earth, in which He is over all things, even so, Christ.

cfultz3 · Nov 9, 2012

That part of Scripture talking about building your house upion sand and not a solid foundation is a good example of what Greenie is talking about when he said one must build upon the foundation of the Christ. Greenie, do you know where that is and if you do, will talk some on that? It would be a good comparison in telling people what happens when Christ and His dotrine is not one's foundation.

cfultz3 · Nov 9, 2012

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 4:2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1Co 4:1 It is in this manner that a human is to sum us up (inventory, reckon): as Christ's subordinates (under oarsmen, assistants, servants) and stewards (house managers, overseers) of God's mysteries. And besides which, it is sought for (required in the sense of 'being looked for as a quality' in the job interview) in these stewards that any one of them should been found faithful (trustworthy).[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Notes:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]a human is to sum us up = whether it is speaking of one from the Church or an outsider is besides the point. The importance is that this is how we are to be summed up. If you or others cannot sum you up as a subordinate working under Jesus and a steward of God's mysteries found in the Christ (the doctrine of the New Covenant), then you need to reexamine yourself through those words which they describe you by. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]With that mind, anyone who is interested in giving a summary, either openly or email is fine, of how they see me in comparison to this post, I will appreciate it.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]subordinates [/FONT]= this is a thought invoking word used here. It means more than just a slave who is under forced obligation to a master. Its meaning is one who works for pay as a servant, assistant. This is not saying that we should do things in conjunction with our Lord so that we might earn pay, but it does imply that those works done under our Master Oarsman (seeing that the main meaning is under oarsman) will not go unrewarded (you will be liberated from your bond of servitude (Christ's toil) when your Master Oarsman has released you and your rewards await you when you have reached the purposed goal of the finish line: everlasting life, your due reward.) It is as the Lord has said, 'I do not call you* slaves...but I have called you* friends'. So, while we are here, we are to look upon ourselves as Christ's assistants, those whose Manager is the Son and whose job is to do the Son's toils (be perfect in love towards any and all (be you perfect (equitable) as your Father in Heaven is perfect, proclaim the Good News, by all righteous means, save the souls of the children from the rebellion. That is, do all those things which we are commanded to do by Him, as He was led of God and did those things which were commanded of Him and it was said to Him, 'Well done my faithful Son. Set and rest from your works)). We know that we are doing the will of the Father, because He has given an Unction to us to led us in the same manner as He led Jesus, the Spirit of Truth. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]To those who seek to gain the world's knowledge so that they may gain here and now, consider this: consider not those things which so easily corrodes and are left behind for others to enjoy, but know that if you work now for the Lord, you will obtain an everlasting pay which is forevermore yours to enjoy in the Glory of the Lord. It is just not worth losing all which your Master Oarsman has promised you upon your release from His toil's which are not hard laden, but is every wit, easy and light.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And you thought I did not have much to say about just one word.....hmmmmmm.

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]stewards = simply said, we are to be trustworthy when we are speaking of those things pertaining to the mysteries of Christ, and as far as that goes, as pertaining to all of God's Oracles. When we are speaking Scripture, it is important to wait upon His Spirit to led us to speak the Truth. This is what is meant by having Him as our Unction. As He did in the Old Testament, so He still does. But we still must know Scripture so when we are spoken to, we may know if it is God's Spirit speaking or a mischievous spirit. We are also told that we will know His Voice. How? He will agree to ALL of Scripture. So, if there is doubt as to what is to be said, then ask God for Truth and it shall be given to you. But if you hastily speak from what you think to be true, then oftentimes the whole Truth is hidden, even from you, the one speaking. Again, I say, if you truly desire to only speak Truth, wait upon the Lord and it shall be revealed. As an exhortation: we all know what happens to an unfaithful steward.[/FONT]

GreenNnice · Nov 10, 2012

cfultz3 said:

If you build your foundation of understanding on Christ, then you will not be easily moved, for Christ is The Rock.

Becker bible studies , not me speaking:
What is the foundation of Jesus Christ?

A foundation is prepared base on which structure rests. It is the beginnings or first principals of a system of truth. A person who comes to the Lord Jesus Christ, and hears and does what he says, builds a foundation on a rock. When trouble comes, that person's life cannot be shaken. The person who lays his foundation on the rock, must first dig deeply into the things of God which are normally hidden and above man's scrutiny This studylays a solidfoundationof Jesus Christ in a Christian, using the six principles of the doctrine of Christ as written in Hebrews 6:1-3 in the Word of God.
From Hebrews 6:1-3 "
" Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, a and of faith in God, 2 instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And God permitting, we will do so."

The way to build your 'house' (temple, or, body, 1 Cor. 6:19-20) is to be affirmed in your desire to let the Spirit lead, this is maturity and showing a level of understanding beyond the 'milk' of The Word . We are to leave acts of repentance that lead us toward a spiritual seperation from.God, for this leads to death, instead, we are to build on: faith in God, instructions of baptism, laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, eternal judgment.

In concert, these 6 things we are to lay the foundation of Christ unto our life, as He leads us to work, and, builds us wisely (remember, He is the 'wisebuilder

)

These six principles of the doctrine of Christ for foundation building are:

1. Sins (Dead Works) 2. Faith 3. Water Baptism 4. Holy Spirit Baptism (Laying on of hands) 5. Resurrection 6. Judgment

Be wary, building a foundation in Christ is work , just like building a foundation of a house takes work, it takes faith to go get a construction loan for a house, it takes faith to put your funds out there, it takes works , by you, the contractor, the subcontractors, the county, the workers'work, and, even, if building in a rainy season, faith in God to keep the wood dry during the process.

Be willing to drop everything and deny yourself, and, just as Jesus took up His cross, you are asked by Him to take up your own cross. Lettingvthe Lord lead is a daunting thought, but, maybe, it makes things easier on you knowing that if you believe in Him, the Lord leads. You want Him to, too. Want it NO other way, but, yes, building your life wholeheartedly in your Saviour is both work and works....

Many go into a knowledge of understanding Jesus died for them but then they think they can't do what is simply asked by God of them for His will for their life. Remember, following God is GOOD! He leads you good, in a 'great' way. His plans are for GOOD. Have faith in His GOOD

The Lord leads, He will never allow us into temptation without a way of escape. But, sadly some do not put their faith in His foundation that was laid for them 2000 years ago on an old rugged cross. Jesus Christ is our chief cornerstone, without Him in our foundation laid we have no hope. You know the song, don't you?

But, first, some verses:

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

The Wise and Foolish Builders

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

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GreenNnice · Nov 10, 2012

Christ peeps, when you build your life on a foundation of Christ, you no longer live in fear, for you are not easily moved. I want to say 'never moved,' and, even Paul knows that we need to press forward with Satan ONE DAY being trampled to death by the Lord's hand, 'crushed,' says Paul in last part of Rom. 16.

But, yes, with Christ our foundation, IF Satan tries to move us, we have the foundation of Christ in whom we rest. Ahhh, that 'rest,' don't you want to run your race like Paul did , pressing toward the high calling of the prize that is Christ Jesus, this is the 'rest,' this understanding of enduring, working on our planting,vwatering, of God's things for us in life, as He builds. In so doing 'this' (will of God), we are RESTING IN HIM , even as we live, blessings galore, as the little kiddie sing says, as the prayers go up the blessings come down. Being a servant of Christ is where we are headed now that we understand we are dead to flesh, alive to His water having helped us, with 'fire' of Him come into our 'temple,' and, more above said 'doctrine of Christ' that a-stands our foundation in Him . the faithful service to the Lord of His work without thinking of the past sins, things of your life but bringing to mind what lies ahead, this IS what Paul swelled on, His Spirit speaking in Paul moved Paul, Paul did nothing of Himself, good, or, even so, his sins, PAUL'S BAD, who did Paul trust in to fulfill the sactification work past his conscious of things darkness passed that were of 'myself?'

Who , green? Who did Paul trust in , so he was not condemning himself of his past 'wretchedness? Paul was wretched? We all are, THAT is why we need to be resting in Christ, our foundation, the chief Cornerstone

Ahhh, we go there now soon, as, hmmm, maybe, cee is led by Him, so we see where cee is taken , GULP! 'Taken,' WHAT!! Did someone just say our blessed cee host has been 'napped!! Dear Lord, say it isn't so, amen.

The Lord does lead, but, yes, chapter 4, quickly, tells us how the Lord, indeed, leads our works of past darkness in to His precious, gracious, great-merciful light

cfultz3 · Nov 10, 2012

GreenNnice said:

Christ peeps, when you build your life on a foundation of Christ, you no longer live in fear, for you are not easily moved. I want to say 'never moved,' and, even Paul knows that we need to press forward with Satan ONE DAY being trampled to death by the Lord's hand, 'crushed,' says Paul in last part of Rom. 16.

But, yes, with Christ our foundation, IF Satan tries to move us, we have the foundation of Christ in whom we rest. Ahhh, that 'rest,' don't you want to run your race like Paul did , pressing toward the high calling of the prize that is Christ Jesus, this is the 'rest,' this understanding of enduring, working on our planting,vwatering, of God's things for us in life, as He builds. In so doing 'this' (will of God), we are RESTING IN HIM , even as we live, blessings galore, as the little kiddie sing says, as the prayers go up the blessings come down. Being a servant of Christ is where we are headed now that we understand we are dead to flesh, alive to His water having helped us, with 'fire' of Him come into our 'temple,' and, more above said 'doctrine of Christ' that a-stands our foundation in Him . the faithful service to the Lord of His work without thinking of the past sins, things of your life but bringing to mind what lies ahead, this IS what Paul swelled on, His Spirit speaking in Paul moved Paul, Paul did nothing of Himself, good, or, even so, his sins, PAUL'S BAD, who did Paul trust in to fulfill the sactification work past his conscious of things darkness passed that were of 'myself?'

Who , green? Who did Paul trust in , so he was not condemning himself of his past 'wretchedness? Paul was wretched? We all are, THAT is why we need to be resting in Christ, our foundation, the chief Cornerstone

Ahhh, we go there now soon, as, hmmm, maybe, cee is led by Him, so we see where cee is taken , GULP! 'Taken,' WHAT!! Did someone just say our blessed cee host has been 'napped!! Dear Lord, say it isn't so, amen.

The Lord does lead, but, yes, chapter 4, quickly, tells us how the Lord, indeed, leads our works of past darkness in to His precious, gracious, great-merciful light

lol Greenie I am still here. Although it would be my wildest desire fulfilled if I were called Home. But, for the meantime, I do carry on my toils in Christ. My earnest desire is to do His will as He leads me. When I get home, I will make a post here.

GreenNnice · Nov 10, 2012

cfultz3 said:

Cee, I know Paul thought that way, too, wanted to be Home but knew God had him where he was and, I believe, Paul rejoiced in wherever God had him, was taking him, too, through all his journeys, does he once say , he wants to die? Not even in prison once but twice I see Paul steadfast, and, if rejoicing in God's plan for his life, certainly, Paul knew the answer to being satisfied with whatever happened in his life, my faithful friend, buddy, Christ brother, cee.

I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need. Phil. 4:12

What does Paul know that sustains Him through all things? Christ's strength.

Phil. 4:13 - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

And, do you know, fellow Christ peeps, all, whether you believe doctrine as exactly as I Or not, I will let God lead (why not? The Lord DOES lead) as YOU all on c.c. and everywhere YOUR foundation is Christ ARE my brothers and sisters in Him, too, I Love you, all, and, pray that we can all read Proverbs and anger understanding, and, 'you don't know much' stuff in Christ, let Him who knows all convict them of things, for we do conviction of self and judging, a taboo of Scripture said if not done rightly, so He though does 'conviction' out of Love. He can use us as pure vessels but how can we be pure IF we do try to talk with all that clanging and gonging coming from our mouth, too??

But, yes , cee, wanna go Home, I feel much more on Earth He have me do still, I rejoice in my suffering, in rest, this I hope and pray, and though I want to go, I want others to know Him more . But I want to go Home, but not until His work is done through me will I go and so, faithfully, I go , as He leads me, and, until His time of my being taken, my story still goes, but His time for everything, and, there, we will be, someday, in His sight, in His place of no more sorrow and no more pain, far beyond what the mind can truly resolute, but for time being we are to find contentedness in following Him, which means we can do ALL things through Christ, who gives us ALL our strength.

cfultz3 · Nov 10, 2012

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I felt that the notes were better served being left in the verses.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 4:4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV 1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1Co 4:3-5 For me, it is but a very little thing that I should have been scrutinized ( interrogated) under your* rather than under a human's (adjective of day) day of reckoning (as compared to Jesus Christ, and His reckoning, "The Day of the Lord"). But either way, I do not even (abst. abs. neg.) scrutinize myself, seeing that (reason) I have understood nothing (abst. abs. neg.) by my own (Jesus was the One having taught him. the others were taught by someone else through the world's knowledge and wisdom). But nevertheless, I have not (abs. neg.) been regarded as justified in this matter (seeing that I am directly sent by Jesus Himself and yet you* are scrutinizing me instead of them). But, the One who is examining (scrutinizing) me is Lord (the One I have to answer to). So also, you* ought not judge (judicially decide) anything before due season, until whenever the Lord should have came. Who, then, will bring to light the hidden things of this darkness (of having been convinced of not following solely Christ) and will make known (apparent) the counsels of those heart's. And at that time (when He comes) will the commendation (from G1909 (distribution of) and G134 (praise))(job well done, now rest you my workers and stewards) from (departure) God cause itself (middle deponent) to be in each one.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Note:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]verse 3-5 plainly =I give it no thought as to having been scrutinized by you, my brothers. It was better than having been interrogated by a human's day of reckoning. Either way, having been scrutinized by you or by one not my brother, it makes no difference because I do not even scrutinized myself, the Lord does. So don't judge anything until the Lord comes (apparently he thought Jesus would come back in his lifetime, inasmuch as we do today) and let Him bring to light this darkness from them and the counsels of their heart, then shall the commendation from God (of a job well done) be in us (that is, when Jesus comes or we are before God, it is then that we receive the same commendation as Jesus did, "Job well done in being a 'worker (of My will)' and a 'good steward (of My mysteries (the doctrine of the New Covenant))', rest from your works".[/FONT]

GreenNnice · Nov 11, 2012

Cee, I'm sorry, I totally missed seeing your having posted 4:1, I would have said something on it sooner, but, anyway, the Lord leads, I think you 'sum' of one word was worthy of great said words from Sher-kahn, the, tiger, after Mowgli the mancub and Balu the bear danced to 'The Bear Necessities.'

In a deep, baritone voice, Sher-kahn said, 'Bravo. Bravo.'

---------so, I will let cee's account be summation of 4:1,2, it explained ALL of we should be a person of good name , who others will say, 'He Loved everyone and his heart was after God's own, he lived his life like the Lord would intend a servant of His to live.' Yes, that would be awesomely said stuff at my funeral.
Epitaph? How about: 'Here lies some body who is in Heaven now.'

No man judges us but God who have a foundation in Christ, they can but why?

This is something of a lesson learned this week by us all, thanks to cee bringing to light that we who ALL have Christ as our foundation, all those little intricacies of 'by grace,' 'justified by faith,' 'through faith,' justified by grace,' etc., are little intricacies of understanding of God's work on that individual, and, we could very well be harming the foundation Christ is (slowly) building in them by slamming our proposed belief of doctrine in their face. We are ALL by grace saved, through faith,' yes, there is more to Eph. 2:8-9 but the foundational understanding of Christvis something we agree on, let us be in agreement , not just for our own betterment, but others too who are in their walk with Christ, Or, not, for what's said here transcends to ears and eyes , if truly known, a long, long, long ways away, and some might think Christianity is too complicated and visceral to want to be a part of its constant 'community' of disagreement.
God brings us along at His pace, for ALL understanding of Truth, as cee, wholly stated, that which reveals what He wants to us when He wants, we are but mere puppets for our Puppateer.

God deals with ALL our darkness but does so in His timing , and, with His walk,ceo, let's examine ourselves less and agree with each other more, as He leads uscall, through prayer and faithfulness to following His Spirit that seals all in Him with redemption and the guaranteed promise of eternal life with our Lord, who one day, one way Or, another, will take us all Home.

God bless you all, Christ peeps, joncross, abidingsquirrel, eg, cee, mari, reinisHis, Rick, Agedknowledge, DD, psychmommy, and, the rest , sorry, IF I missed you, Lord leads, God bless you all, fellow peeps of our Good Shepherd who so faithfully cares for us now and forever .

cfultz3 · Nov 11, 2012

GreenNnice said:

Greenie,

My very spirit felt the outpouring of peace you conveyed here. Let there be peace between brothers and sisters, we all have our salvation through the shed blood of the Christ.

Let us all agree to this Truth:

And let us, therefore, all be co-workers with God. From the Love which motivates us, let us all say, 'here I am LORD, use me!' Praise the Lord that we are worthy to be His assistants.

cfultz3 · Nov 11, 2012

KJV 1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
KJV 1Co 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?
KJV 1Co 4:8 Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you.

1Co 4:6-8 And I have applied these things to myself and Apollos through you* so that you* could have learned by us not to think (to be concerned with, to have an understanding) beyond that which had been written, so that you* would not be puffed up one above the other, for the sake of the other. For Who distinguishes you from one another? And what do you have that you have not (abs. neg.) received? And if you have then received, why do you boast of yourself (middle deponent) as not having received? You* are already filled (satiated, crammed). You* have already became rich. You* have reigned apart from us. And oh how have I indeed wished you* did reign so that we could have also reigned with you*.

Notes:

beyond what has been written = as we continue to learn, we now see that it is in the interest of others that we should not go beyond Scripture. He is saying that such introduction of extra Scriptural material could cause a crack in one's Foundation they build upon and have their house destroyed in the process. We see that when we bring in knowledge and wisdom beyond what has been given to us through Jesus by God, that it makes us, let us say, a bit arrogant against those who are our brothers and sisters and I am sure those who are not of the same house will see us as nothing more than fools who cannot even agree on the basic elements of the Christ, instead of those who are workers of the Son and good stewards of God's mysteries found in the doctrine of the Christ. We should, by all effort, be seen as the latter and not as those who do not even know what their Lord has said or not said on a subject.

Who distinguishes you = Paul just spoke about the danger of having a perceived knowledge greater than others in order to make ourselves distinguished from one another. Do we not know that we have been given just one mind, and that is the mind of Christ? If we are of the same mind, how than can one perceive themselves to be greater in knowledge and wisdom that is beyond that of which Christ teaches? It is God who distinguishes us by the gifts of the Spirit, and it should not be our worldly intellect which separates us into opposing groups. If it is God who has gifted you with all that which is to be found in Christ, than why would you boost as though your knowledge and wisdom were of your own design.

you*...filled....rich = these people had settled on what they had already in Christ and did not reach further for the complete fullness of God and was content with whatever treasure they had in Heaven or on Earth. They stopped listening to Paul and was satisfied with reign here on Earth and not the reign which accompanies Christ.

oh how I wished you* did reign = Paul is trying to tell them that what they perceive as reigning is not really the reign they should be looking for. The sort of reign is as kings and priest of the Father and is, therefore, not yet and not earthly, seeing that they are still under Christ's toils (the mentioning of 'we (apostles)' indicates to us that if we are to obtain an earthly reign, then the apostles would be at rest and reigning also).

cfultz3 · Nov 11, 2012

Correction:

1Co 4:6-8 And I have applied these things to myself and Apollos through you*

Shoud be:

1Co 4:6-8 And I have applied these things, brothers, to myself and Apollos through you*

marianna · Nov 11, 2012

GreenNnice said:

How ironic in a post....are ye of paul or apollo...you are yet "of cee".

If you learned this week to be careful of how you build on the true foundation, why did you not learn it from the dozens of attempts to have you see that (in spite of your mentor who has already caused you to sin in sectarianism?)

As for cees qualifications as a teacher/scholar, he is not qualified to attach commentary to the passages in the manner he has been doing. Perhaps a clear deliniation between holy scripture and this mans personal interpretation would be safer

cee is not an apostle.

You are aware of that arent you greennnice?

1 Corinthians Chapter 1...Grammar Study

How do you see my studies? (multichoice)

I have no interest in the studies

They are ok if that is what you want to do

They are perversive and should stop now

You should present in a different manner

I am learning from them

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