Skniski - Black RickShafer - Red.
Fallacy 1: Sin is an inbred disease people are born with. (His contention)
This is the main misconception that necessitates and influences all other Bible teachings within the Church. (Don’t think it doesn’t, it DOES!) Before debating any other theological positions, you must address the subject of man. Many fail to see the importance of correctly dividing choice from nature, but it’s obvious, they are opposites. The idea of an “inbred” nature causing people to sin totally eliminates freewill and in the end provides an excuse for the sinner (my body made me do it!).Please explain the fall? And what died the day Adam and Eve partook of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? God said - "For in the day you eat from it you will surely die."Gen2:17 By preachers embracing this concept, they automatically eliminate the convicting power of the Holy Spirit and promise people liberty in Christ while are still in bondage to their numerous sins. Talk about a straw man! First you proclaim there is no such thing as 'original sin' - the fall, or if there was 'a fall', it was just a one time 'misstep' that didn't effect the nature of man at all. Or if it did, not enough to cause them not to be able to be innocent(perfect), as they were before. What are your scriptures for this? This then is WHY so many have been led to a prayer for salvation, but never repentance. On numerous occasions I have discussed this teaching with others from the system only to be misunderstood and in some instances ridiculed. This doctrine is engrained in the minds of the people for sure.Here I agree with you, no one recites their way into heaven. The idea of the sinners prayer is not in the bible. It is with the HEART one believes unto righteousness - "calling on the Name of the Lord" from the heart, not by following some scripted 'prayer'. Upon asking others to defend their position by explaining the transmission of the Adamic transgression,They were separated from God spiritually, that's why Adam was for the first time afraid of God's presence.(Gen3:8-10) I am usually met with a blank stare or outlandish explanation (in some cases I have been urged to speak with the person’s preacher for clarification). It seems to me like it doesn’t matter how this initial sin is propagated so it makes sense why faithful Church attendees are so shocked to hear me explain the ridiculousness of this un-Biblical doctrine.Romans 5:12 - "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." That was Apostle Paul, not Augustine. The fact of the matter is, regardless of what I can show people from Scripture, once their mind is infected with this teaching it is nearly impossible to awaken them to errors of this message! Sadly, I have yet to meet anyone in my local area who correctly understands that this doctrine of natural sin was not taught in the Patristic era of the Church (research it and be Set Free!). See what Paul said. It’s really unbelievable! “How can so many be blind to this fallacy,” you may wonder as I once did myself. Typically, as I have learned, since Systematic Theology runs the evangelical world today, Bible exegesis are normally traced back to Augustine of Hippo and no further. Thus, the teachers who came before Augustine (first 400 years of the Church) and his opponents (like Pelagius) are usually termed as heretics all too quickly and disregarded as Biblical illiterate. It’s easy to see then why people are quick to put individuals like me who see the errors of Augustine in a similar category. We don't put you in the category of teaching heresy for disagreeing with Augustine, we put you in that category for disregarding what the Apostle Paul being led of inspiration by the Holy Ghost,(and many others). Truly, until the religious Church establishment wakes up to the fact that their precious doctrine of Original Sin is Pagan, they will fail to comprehend the origins of their own religion (Christianity!) in which they profess to be apart of! What blindness! What blindness indeed.
Now I have refuted your doctrine with scripture,.........
of which you didn't use ONE to support your claims.