Some Christians like to reserve judging other Christians til they get the entirety of a belief that others think we should be pointing out. In reading thru this thread some posts are not very specific, & others are. About 12 pgs ago I thought for one side to confess the sins they were referring to that they still commit while saved, so that the other side would see that these people could be Christians, not heretics. No one did get that specific & the next poster told me to confess.
Ok, I'm saved. I believe Jesus is the Son of God & all in the Bible is infallible=( Making it short) I confess. I have little patience with criminals who are not repenting. I have little patience with tresspassers on my property, & the drunken neighbor who is always telling me what to do on my property, how to trim the shrubs the style she prefers, etc. Sometimes I get angry & have a hard time letting those anger feelings pass. I think a better Christian could handle these people better than I do & not be angry about it. Sometimes I'm impatient with my husband or children. I do think these are sins & repent. I am improving. I don't lie or covet or envy,steal,murder,take the Lord's name in vain. I was saved many yrs ago but I still pray & repent of these sins I still commit after i was saved.
On the other side of the coin are the original thread starter & his agreeers, who I THINK are saying that If I was already saved like I think I was, then I'm going to hell now anyway there is no hope for me. Once you sin after being saved u cannot be saved again.
I WAS SAVED BEFORE the sins I just confessed, so I disagree with that theory.
So the supposed accused heretics, on the other side, would say that it's ok for me to keep sinning because anything I do after I'm saved is covered by Jesus, correct? And also that if I'm not already really saved, that if I'm "elected or predestined without foreknowledge " MAYBE I will end up being saved, maybe I'm going to hell cause Jesus didn't die for everyone's sins, maybe not mine. But either way it's ok to sin if you are chosen/elected. I know some with this theory believe predestination is With foreknowledge which I agree WITH foreknowledge, but the rest of the theology still ends up saying it's ok to keep sinning.
I can't agree with either of these scenarios. It is not ok to keep sinning.I'm throwing in a 3rd version here.
None of us is perfect, whether or not u claim chosen, elected ,predestined or you're just plain old "saved", born again. If you think you arn't saved, I'm sorry for ya, No matter your belief.
I have confidence in & faith in the fact that I am now saved. It is not my "belief", I FEEL my salvation from God by Jesus' work on the cross. Some things are beliefs. Other things are facts. It is a fact I am saved, not my belief. God gave me this knowledge. I am saved now.