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gotime

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Id love to see practicals and hear testimonies since few
young folk passing through here are likley to have become
skilled in christianeze or have their phd's

Something helpful rather than intellectual or spiritual posturing
Jesus when He was tempted overcame and did not give in.

He used the word of God. I have found that the word of God gives me strength to resist temptation.
 
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I see your spirit.
You want to reference what the apostle John said?
"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves; and the truth is not in us." - I John 1:8
Answer that thou who claims no falling short.
 

gotime

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I am not going to pursue this further because this is Abiding thread and he has asked me to leave. blessings.
 

gotime

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sorry Abiding for any offence. Know that I did not intend it. bye
 
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Gotime, you answered a personal testimony with accusations -
"The devil is bigger to some here than God".
Your judgmental spirit answers your own question - "I hope I haven't offended you?!!!"
.......Almost funny.......
 
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Mark the leaven of the accuser.
See the workings of a spiritual pharisee.
(Note that thread children)
 
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Notice the carnality and duplicitous deceit of one who lays accusations at the feet of the disciples;
and then leaves with 'blessings'.
 
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Abiding

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Well ok where were we. "Walking in the Spirit"....which we will receive examples soon...gotta have
examples that just sounds so spooky and esoteric.

And listenning to the Holy Spirit ...a glib remark ive heard so often but cant hear anything.
So confusing..

Then i heard fight temptation with the Word of God like Jesus did...hmm maybe that
would be worth finding out just how to do that. Does anyone have any personal experiences
with that they can share?
 
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Abiding

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changed my mind Gottime come back and help me with this using the Word
to fight temptation...Pleasssssseeeee!
 

gotime

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I used to have a real anger problem. It mostly came out at night when the kids would wake me up.

I would go into there room and yell at them and make them feel bad for getting me up. I realized that this was only damaging them, but I could not seem to stop.

Then one day I read in a book of how to claim the fruits of the Spirit. he said to be specific with what you are facing. So I looked up the fruits of the Spirit.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

I saw peace and thought ok when I am angry I am totally the opposite of peace. So I armed myself ready.

The next time my kids woke me up I got up and got angry as usual. but suddenly I remembered to ask for God to manifest peace in me. It seemed to work, I calmed down.

So the next time they got me up that night as I began to get angry as I got up I remembered and asked the lord for peace and then I went in calm. then before I went back to God I knelt down and thanked him. I did this for about 1 week and since then I have never got angry again like that.

I just claimed the promise. and God delivered.
 
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Abiding

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I used to have a real anger problem. It mostly came out at night when the kids would wake me up.

I would go into there room and yell at them and make them feel bad for getting me up. I realized that this was only damaging them, but I could not seem to stop.

Then one day I read in a book of how to claim the fruits of the Spirit. he said to be specific with what you are facing. So I looked up the fruits of the Spirit.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

I saw peace and thought ok when I am angry I am totally the opposite of peace. So I armed myself ready.

The next time my kids woke me up I got up and got angry as usual. but suddenly I remembered to ask for God to manifest peace in me. It seemed to work, I calmed down.

So the next time they got me up that night as I began to get angry as I got up I remembered and asked the lord for peace and then I went in calm. then before I went back to God I knelt down and thanked him. I did this for about 1 week and since then I have never got angry again like that.

I just claimed the promise. and God delivered.


Wow so you

1 found a bible context that told what to do in place of your anger
2 you prayed for help doing it
3 you did it
4 you thanked God for the victory
5 you practiced doing it continually


wow would that work with any sin?
does that have a name?
 
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I wanted to post this correspondence gotime and I had through PM.
He contacted me and we reconciled our differences.
I think he showed the true meaning of 'not letting the sun go down on your anger'.Eph.4:26

Originally Posted by RickShafer
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Originally Posted by gotime
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Originally Posted by RickShafer
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Originally Posted by gotime
Brother I apologize for any offence, My First point was not meant to be an attack.

It just seemed to me that many were speaking doubt. Emphasizing our weakness more than Gods strength. I was not speaking about testimonies. there were other posts that were not testimonies in there.

Anyway, I did get a little carried away there. Sorry for any offence I caused.


There was no personal offense taken on my part.
(Though it might have seemed so)
I am vigilant against doctrine that stresses perfection.
The reason should be obvious. Many souls are beaten down by preachers stressing outward works.
And if not that, there is this insipid 'big tent' doctrine that says you are saved no matter what you do.
So I am perhaps overly sensitive due to people that come to this site as a last resort.....and the last thing they need to hear is they have to be perfect before God can help them,-(I know you weren't saying that).
I agree with you that we are to be willingly molded into the image of Jesus Christ or else we are none of His. We can't sin willfully, hoping grace abounds. If we do this we are rebelling against His Words.
I hope I wasn't portraying that in my testimony.
God has literally saved my life three times.
Two of which were because of no fault on my part, so I know first hand how God saves......His hand is not too short to save to the utmost.
And I've personally seen His grace, even to one who didn't deserve it such as I. So I am not as worried about P's and Q's as I am showing God's love.....which comes through His immutable grace.
That even covers sinners like us. (For even if we perform His sayings outwardly, we fall short many times by sins of omission.)
But thanks for your correspondence.
You showed true 'Godlikeness' in doing it.
Yours in Christ,
Rick


Blessings to you brother, I over reacted which is unusual for me to do. and in that I sinned. I love what you have just said, I suppose I was overreacting because of similar reasons. I am so used to people saying, well I am saved so I can do what I want.

I know I am weak and in desperate need of Jesus Grace everyday. Let us then put my foolishness behind us and extend the hand of brotherhood in Christ. Thank you for your kind words.


And thank you my brother!
(For not letting the sun go down on our anger)
I am going to post a followup; explaining how you contacted me in brotherly love.
And that both of us were overreacting.
(To anything goes in your case, and perfectionism in mine.)
How we both saw the worst in each other, instead of finding the best.
(This is what I hate about these threads....if we were talking to each other face to face{like in a church}, it never would have went that
far}).
I'll also post this fact,.....that it is easy to get carried away without seeing the others face, mannerisms, inflections, etc.
This is a drawback of communicating through one's and zero's(digital means).
God bless you,
Rik Shafer

Brother you have made my heart glad. I was feeling so bad once I stopped replying. shame was the word that comes to mind. But I have learned a lesson from this.

I do agree with you, when we write it can be so easy to take things the wrong way. As I have done to you this day. but I am glad that in Christ we can reconcile. This is what Christianity is about. The Lord be praised. and again thank you for your understanding. I think it good to put something up on the post as a good example to set for others. blessings Rick.

I overreacted. I need to watch that.
Thank God for His tender mercies that draw us back together!
(See....I told you it was grace:p) ...No, just kidding, gotime went above and beyond to restore the bonds of fellowship.

Thanks brother!

 
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I thank God for the cross, and the resurrection of my Lord Jesus Christ. I thank Father in heaven that HE DOES as the Prayer say....
Father, LET THOU WILL BE DONE IN ME AS IN HEAVEN.

Now about sin I did! My greatest repetative sin WAS adultery. I cheated on my wife more than most people. I was addicted to sex outside God's will. And BADLY so! But I realize if a man commits adultery once or a thousand times, he is guilty of adultery. BUT God said His Holy Spirit will come and convict me of that sin, and HE DID! When God showed me my sin I was devistated. At that moment I saw the once pleasureable adultery, as the DUNG God sees it.

This adultery I committed, and enjoyed, as the sinner was now all of a sudden a very FILTHY affair. But the Holy Spirit not only showed me the sin, He also showed me the judgement of that sin, and the righteousness that can replace that sin. And this is how it happened.

I already knew I HAD to stop adding to the mess, and it was VERY easy, AFTER God showed me how the angels in heaven looks down on me sinning. Imagine going to bed with the neighbor's wife and ten thousand angels is watching. I not only knew this was true but I realized the angels that are glad for EVERY soul that repents, must be glad because thehy know where that soul has been.

Well that meant I was DONE with adultery. To mAKE THIS EVEN STRONGER God did something else. He showed me that ADULTERY was WIPED clean off the scroll with my sin on it. Then God said, no use He removes the sin from the sheet, but He will also remove the sinful act of ADULTERY from my heart, and replace it with something else.... God replaced the adultery in my heart with AUTHORITY OVER THAT ADULTERY and ANY OTHER UNGODLY SEX.

In the place where adultery used to be, is God's forgiveness cleansed all the dung from that place, then He replaced it with a love for GODLY sex. Between wife and husband ONLY! And He gave me the authority to reprove, and rebuke ALL UNGODLY SEX. Exactly like God does with a thief. He not only let the thief stop stealing, but He makes him a humble giver to the less fortunate.

God's victory over sin in any person, is God's HOLY WILL. Because God wants us to RULE OVER SIN, He makes us RULERS over sin. Not partakers, but REBUKERS of sin! Exactly the opposite of what we USED TO BE.

On one particular Sunday God set two men free from the CURSE OF UNGODLY SEX. It was an ungodly sexual event that ignited the demon to have a blast in my body for almost twenty five years. But as Jesus says... If I set you free you are free indeed. That is one type of demon that does not take me on any longer. They shiver when I REBUKE them, and they flee from me. God gave me VICTORY AND RULERSHIP OVER THEM!

Thank You Lord, Your salvation is PERFECT! Please Lord set us free! Amen!
 
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psychomom

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This is not my story, but it's so fresh in my mind...I hope it's still okay to share it...

My absolutely wonderfully lovely niece Christa has had a bit of a difficult life.
Her daddy died when she was 11, and though he had cancer, Christa was unprepared for it.
She had been very close to him, and the loss was great.

Then her little brother died when she was 13.
Of all 4 of his sisters, Christa was the one who spent hours a day with Logan,
and because of the way he died, she felt responsible. :(

Fast forward through years of leaving PA, moving to the Charlotte area,
leaving behind all she'd ever known, and being unable to see Aunt Ellie
every couple of weeks, (which must have been a great blow--oh, right, it just was for ME! ;) )
and she's a very confused young woman, seeing a man 14 years her senior,
who was a drug addict and alcoholic, and she got dragged into his world (not that she didn't go willingly)
and this man beat her, and almost killed her one night, firing a gun that missed her head by 4 inches
(ask the cops)
so she moved (again) to MI to our oldest sister's house,
where she met another man 12 years her senior who has no full time job, and never has.
They both moved back to her mom's area and got an apartment together, not married.

Her mother tried to reach her...so hard...so many times...
and finally one day called me and said the Lord wanted her to let go of it,
and let Him work. (Christa is 22 now).
My sister never condemned her daughter, she just loved her and reminded her
what the Word of God says in gentle admonishment.
And we prayed for grace for Christa, and gave her grace, as much as God placed in our hearts for her.
And we love(d) her.

Two months ago, Christa began attending church again.
She went on a short mission trip.
She got a good job.
She stopped partying.
She moved into the second bedroom in their apartment (you get the picture).
She's legally responsible for the lease, so she's trying to honor that.
She asked her bf to go to church with her (he said no :( ).
She distanced herself (emotionally) from her bf.
She asked us to pray for him, but told him she wouldn't go back to MI with him,
and that they could only be friends.

Did she do all that of her own accord?
In her own power because she's so righteous?
Or...did God pour grace upon Christa, and love her
till she saw her need?
Did the Lord (her Savior since she was a little girl) make Christa know
that He loves her, and that the way she was living was causing a breach between them,
and that He wanted her to return to Him?
And then did He empower her to turn to Him (by the love He loved her with)
and to live the way He wants her to simply because it's good for her? :)
Has the Lord filled Christa with a desire to do good things, just for His sake?
And has the Lord given Christa a repentant heart through His own kindness?
With no guilt or condemnation, but with love and mercy?
And has God given her (and me!) this testimony to His power and wisdom and love and grace and mercy and goodness and kindness?
Has the Lord made us know that HE makes her walk according to His statutes,
for her good and to His glory? ♥

I know what I believe.
-ellie
 
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Ellie, God said this.... Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: Eze 11:20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

Then I also remember God said... Psalm 103:12. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. THAT IS FAR!

God loves us so much that HE Puts us in HIMSELF, and He gave us a gaurentee, IN HIM IS NO SIN! How great is our Lord. He says, we were scarlet, we shall be WHITE AS SNOW. Red like crimson, it would be like wool.

Who can give himself a new heart to be God's people? Who can make himself WHITE when he is scarlet? Who can stop sinning even the "smallest" sin without God? Who can be ANY GOOD without God? God says clearly.... in Eph 4... One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

How can a heart that is GOD not turn to God? And how can this heart EVER return to his old ways? Can this fleshly heart turn back to be a stony heart again? That would be the stupitest thing ANY person can EVER do!

Praise God that HE IS THE WAY OUT OF SIN. Who will save me from this wretched body.... I praise Jesus Christ, HE WILL!
And Does!
 
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unclefester

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Thank you for sharing this illustration psychomom. Unless we too have experienced the great pain of loss accompanied by the uncertainties of life that would surely follow at such a tender age, we are in no wise in a position to cast judgement. What a beautiful and merciful thing it is to serve a God that looks upon the inward travails of the heart. Your niece is in my thoughts and prayers today as well :)
 
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DID YOU READ THE TESTIMONY OF ONE OF OUR OWN? - ELLIE?
She's on here all the time, we know her and we love her.
Did you see what Jesus did for her niece?

That's the type of thing Jesus specializes in (what He did for Christa).
That's what I'm saying!
God's ways are so much greater than our ways.
How many of us would have thrown up our hands in exasperation
exclaiming defeat over her?
Jesus never does this.
He is the master craftsman.
Who can separate those who He has called from His hands.
None of us would have thought she was saved,....while she was trying to reconnect with her dad through those older men.
Not one of us. We would have judged the outward,.......Oh, she's no good, she's lazy, she has emotional problems.......
how many of us would have even talked to her if we saw her on the street?
How many?........How many?
But Jesus would, He had her right where He wanted her.
A place where it would get bad enough so she would cry out to Him........
That's what He does.........He saves to the utmost.
He doesn't look at outward holiness........because He's the only Holy One and He knows it!
See how He works. See how His ways are mysterious, and way past our ways?
That's what I'm talking about!
Who will lay a charge to God's elect? - - - - - - - WHO?!?
"And when the crowd had departed, Jesus asked her saying; "woman, where are thine accusers?"
"Are there none left to accuse thee?"
And she answered - "None, my lord"
And He saith to her, "Neither do I accuse thee........go, and sin no more."

THAT'S JESUS
THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING HE DOES.
HE SAVES TO THE UTMOST!

HOW MANY MORE LIVES IS HE SAVING JUST LIKE CHRISTA'S?
SO WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE? -
(The sooner we stop judging by appearances is the sooner God can use us)
 
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psychomom

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Thanks to the Lord, and to you guys.:)

I think very few people need to have sin preached at them.
What they (and we all) need is the Remedy taught. :)

Even those who now think it was a message of sin that caused them to turn to God
will (I hope and pray) see one day that, all along, it was the merciful Lord Jesus,
and the heart of the Father of grace, Who is Love, Who reached down to them
and loved them and caused them to love Him back. ♥

And in His perfect plan for Christa, the Lord had all the adults in her life
learn from their own stumbling and being lovingly picked up and restored.

We learned it's certainly not about us,
and not even about our sin...
it's about God. :)
All to His own glory, for that's where glory resides!

I am thankful today for our Christa, and for this place, and for you all,
and for the tenderness and grace and love of the One Who saves,
and keeps His own! :)