Well going by what you have said against Wesley, and seeming to not believe that we can live for God..as many who appeal only to grace and believe Holiness is something that is attained on our own(not that i ever heard someone imply this..not me..not anyone said its a do it yourself christianity) I can only say what it seems that you are implying..I am not 'keeping score' as much as you seem to be.
I can only say..do not get upset when we who believe what 1 thessalonians 4 says and 1 peter1 says and other scriptures say regarding right living that it's God's will for all Christians. And we are all to have fruit..remember what Jesus did to the fruitless fig tree? He cursed it..
This is not my trying to compile a list Zone..rather an admonishment to love that which is good..he is Holy..
I can only say..do not get upset when we who believe what 1 thessalonians 4 says and 1 peter1 says and other scriptures say regarding right living that it's God's will for all Christians. And we are all to have fruit..remember what Jesus did to the fruitless fig tree? He cursed it..
This is not my trying to compile a list Zone..rather an admonishment to love that which is good..he is Holy..
did you read his work yet?
do you think he practiced what he taught?
is it safe for christians to follow his Methods when he died not believing?
when he said in his own words he was leading the whole world to believe something he himself did not know?
do you believe it is Biblical that ppl receive a Second Blessing which makes them in actuality perfect?
i'm not keeping score of anything. except bad theology.
i never talk about my "works" - if i do they are worthless.
i don't claim to be without sin.
yet:
i have forsaken everyone and everything i knew.
left it all.
it's just ME.
and my church.
and my studies.
i could make a list of all the sins i have committed throughout life.
rest assured i have broken all the commandments.
alongside that list would be forgiveness of them, by Christ Our Lord.
if you do not believe that, are you a Christian?
i believe in laying aside everything from my former life, and not taking it up again.
i believe in calling sin what it is, by name, and never validating my own sin or anyone else's.
i believe in staying in the scriptures and receiving conviction and reproof as i need it daily, as well as assurance and comfort, holding out the hope we have in the faith delivered once for all.
but i believe in a God who loved the world in such a manner of love that He gave His Only Son.
that whosoever should believe in Him shall not perish, but will receive eternal life.
this God is a Merciful God.
and this God has Power.
i know He does, because He gave it to me when i had none.
i was DEAD.
now i am alive.
i repeat:
i could make a list of all the sins i have committed throughout life.
rest assured i have broken all the commandments.
alongside that list would be forgiveness of them, by Christ Our Lord.
i believe and confess Jesus Christ Crucified for the Forgiveness of sins and eternal life with One True God.
and the christian life comes with everything we need to be delivered Home.
the Spirit is my guarantee.
if you don't believe that, and have that testimony in yourself, are you a christian?
you must be born again.
and the born again man will walk in the light by confessing his sins and forgetting what lies behind.
if you don't believe that God performs saving work in every regenerated believer i think you are a Two-Tiered elitist...i don't think you really are.
but that's what methodism leads to.
it's false. bad doctrine.
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