The falling away 2nd THESS chpt 2

[KJVBIBLECATOWNER]

as the number of christians in this country fall into the strong delusion sent by GOD ( because they hated the truth of GODS word ) and MTV, the evil media , the luke warm 501c3 churches , the indoctrination to satanism by the public school system, have made christians seduced and deceived to spit in THE LORD JESUS CHRISTS face ( DEUT 7 verse 10 ) by claiming to be christian and support sodomite marriage , justify the 3000 women murdering their children every day , and they always hate the KJV ( a high school student here is notorious for his hatred of GODS word ) The strong delusion is here and the christians are falling away, it breaks my heart to hear so - called christians calling evil good and good evil ( ISAIIAH 5 verse 20 ) they are so deluded that they say the president is a good man ( ROM 3 verse 10 , PROV 17 verse 15 ) calling GOD a liar ( ROM 3 verse 4 ) These are the people who believe the lies of the false prophets who say GODS judgement will never come to this country, they cant see that GOD has already sent an evil leader who GOD will use to punish this whore of a nation. The BIBLE means nothing to them ( again I was attacked by a high school student here , and told that if you read the KJV you were crazy or a WBC church member.... ) they dont read their BIBLES, and are completely brainwashed by their hireling , 501c3 contract signing ( the IRS dictates what they can and cant preach about ... so they never have any watchmen ) false prophets , or even worse they want to be popular and worldly , so they never witness or call sin, sin ( like gay marriage, or child murder ) again because they were brainwashed and because they rejected GODS word ( KVJ BIBLE ) GOD gave them up to strong delusion and they will believe a lie, If your a real christian please pray that some might be woken up to realize that the day of the LORD is near. Discernment is dead indeed, please sound the alarms and blow the trumpets. Thank you to all those who prayed for my cd ministry. May the LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you and keep you ( NUMBRS 6 verse 22- 27

 

[KJVBIBLECATOWNER]

Thanks to PICKLES and SHENIKIAH ( forgive if mispelled ) for your prayers, The LORD JESUS CHRIST is so good and holy. He granted my prayer request , and the BIBLE says if you are christians than your my sisters, I love you and thank you both, and will pray for you today

 

[SarahM777]

The BIBLE means nothing to them ( again I was attacked by a high school student here , and told that if you read the KJV you were crazy or a WBC church member.... )

That is not what he said this is what he said

"I sense a hate filled vitriol in all those words you spoke..
how about if someone were to do the same with you..
let's see..

So I was talking to this religious dead head KJVonlyist who sounds more like somebody who attends Westboro Baptist Church and uses words like Sodomite to refer to gay men when it is very easy to fixate on that visible sin that makes one uncomfortable but seeing that pride can be quite invisible at times its easier to look on another's visible sin..

Does not sound too nice now does it..
Granted some of it is merited, still..does it make you want to dialogue with me..or does it invoke emotions of anger?"

He turned the question around and asked if you like the same thing done to you. You have accused him of something he never said,which means you are lying and bearing a false witness against him and if you are the Christian you say you are you need to apologize to him and seek his forgiveness for these accusations against him that were false. It's the right thing to do.

 

[KJVBIBLECATOWNER]

Dear SARAH , you did not read the entire post where at the end I pray that GOD save the sodomite. You had an angry emotional reaction to a watchman. You cant trust your heart ( PROV 28 verse 26 , JER 7 verse 9 , PROV 14 verse 12 and 16 verse 25 ) Our friend criticized my very 1st post, NOT BECAUSE OF CONTENT, but simply because my username had KVJ in it. Please look it up under the why do christians attacck catholics thread, the media has taught you to lash out against anyone who speaks against gay marriage, its a witch hunt. Go back and research my 1st post and see our friend mock me, seriously, please do. Then look up what your buddy Nautilus says in a new post about a sick 3rd gender ( he has chose to be p.c rather than christian ) You answered a matter before you heard it ( PROV 18 verse 13 ) and again go back and do the research. Nautilus is gone, our other friend is in the anyone who reads the KVJ is in a cult mode but still I pray for and love, SARAH I dont know what your calling is in the body of christ, but you cant love the world and be a christian. I ll send you my testimony, and supernatural experiences if youd like. Please read all posts all the way through. I was also attacked and called un loving for handing out tracts !!! I had re occuring dreams from GOD giving me Bible verses, my calling is as a watchman, and it is not a popularity contest. When you preach something politcally incorrect you will be attacked, when you preach that abortion is murder you will be attacked, I know GOS will for you SARAH, its in MARK 16 verse 15, which is his will for me as well. I love you SARAH and call you friend, hear me ... you too will have to choose between being politcally crrect and loving the world or standing for the LORD JESUS and being hated by the world. I love you enough to tell you the truth, Im gonna pray forpsalm 64 over you for protection.Love your friend in CHRIST, Kristofor. This is from the heart, and if you lash out after reading this I will still pray for you.

 

[Tintin]

You're reading things into people's posts where there is nothing of consequence. The majority of Christians here probably don't agree with gay marriage, abortion etc. but it's the way you go about blasting anyone and bearing false witness (one of the commandments, yes?) against others, that's not godly.

Someone please ban this guy/girl now.

 

[SarahM777]

Dear SARAH , you did not read the entire post where at the end I pray that GOD save the sodomite. You had an angry emotional reaction to a watchman. You cant trust your heart ( PROV 28 verse 26 , JER 7 verse 9 , PROV 14 verse 12 and 16 verse 25 ) Our friend criticized my very 1st post, NOT BECAUSE OF CONTENT, but simply because my username had KVJ in it.

I did read it a number of times,I have tried to make that a habit as it is far to easy to read it once and not get what someone is saying. I didn't say anything about you not praying,only on the issue that you accused someone of something that they did not imply in their statement.

Please look it up under the why do christians attacck catholics thread, the media has taught you to lash out against anyone who speaks against gay marriage, its a witch hunt.

Have you read any of the other threads that I have posted in about the LGBT issues? Not once have I ever said that a marriage is not between one man and one woman as Jesus was so clear to point out. Even though I myself am dealing with transsexual issues myself I have tried to make the point that God has given us a plumb line in which we can walk and still not sin. It is a very narrow line.


Go back and research my 1st post and see our friend mock me, seriously, please do. Then look up what your buddy Nautilus says in a new post about a sick 3rd gender ( he has chose to be p.c rather than christian )

You now are saying Nautilus is my buddy yet I hardly know him.

You answered a matter before you heard it ( PROV 18 verse 13 ) and again go back and do the research. Nautilus is gone, our other friend is in the anyone who reads the KVJ is in a cult mode but still I pray for and love, SARAH I dont know what your calling is in the body of christ, but you cant love the world and be a christian.

Did you know that the Lord has called me to witness to the LGBT community? I know of His love for us but it does not mean we can continue to do the things we have done. Do you have any idea how hard it is to break through the tough thick skin they have built up over the years from hearing groups like Westboro Baptist that all they do is tell them they are somehow less then human and there is no hope of salvation and then they have the gall to laugh about it? Been there myself. Do you realize that it is often so called Christians that have raped us. (Been there myself) I went through 3 years of that with a guy that tried to kill me,sexualy assaulted me,and threatened to kill my family. Try working through that and tell me it's easy and then have so called Christians after telling them that they all walk away. Try having no friends in a Christian school just because you don't act like the rest. Never mind if you are acting on it or not.


I ll send you my testimony, and supernatural experiences if youd like. Please read all posts all the way through. I was also attacked and called un loving for handing out tracts !!! I had re occuring dreams from GOD giving me Bible verses, my calling is as a watchman, and it is not a popularity contest. When you preach something politcally incorrect you will be attacked, when you preach that abortion is murder you will be attacked, I know GOS will for you SARAH, its in MARK 16 verse 15, which is his will for me as well. I love you SARAH and call you friend, hear me ... you too will have to choose between being politcally crrect and loving the world or standing for the LORD JESUS and being hated by the world. I love you enough to tell you the truth, Im gonna pray forpsalm 64 over you for protection.Love your friend in CHRIST, Kristofor. This is from the heart, and if you lash out after reading this I will still pray for you.

I never said it was a popularity contest. I myself have gotten flamed by the same groups. I do not agree with the agenda. Try talking to them when you are dealing with the very same issues and still telling them God has a plumb line that we will be measured by. One does not win a whole lot of friends that way. The Lord does have me walking a very very fine line,and the only I can is by holding on to Him,if I don't I will get wiped out along the way.

 

[Tintin]

Oh, Sarah. That's beyond words. I'm so sorry to hear of the pain that you've experienced. God Bless you, mate.

 

[SarahM777]

Oh, Sarah. That's beyond words. I'm so sorry to hear of the pain that you've experienced. God Bless you, mate.

Thanks. In all of this I have learned of God's mercy and gentleness with those who have been so battered down by life. This is one of the verses He taught me a long time ago

Isaiah 42

“Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.
3 A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
4 he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his teaching the islands will put their hope.”​

The Lord has been very faithful to me on that. Even when I have acted out in hurt and pain He has always dealt with me more gently then I deserve. It took some time but He has healed me of all the hurt and pain.

 

[KJVBIBLECATOWNER]

Well SARAH Im going to start a conversation with you, 1st my name is Kristofor, I am a Cat owner and Ibelieve the bible ( KJV ).... this is my real name and Im not playing make believe. I am going to converse with you and will use bible verses when necessary. First Im assuming your a woman ( as you know poeople make up fake names, stories, etc ) second I assume your a born again christian ( lots of occultists pose as christians ) and third I want you to speak freely without fear to me, since you opened up to me, I will open up to you. I am a christian man who is cellibate and reccomend the same. I will speak freely to you too, if youd like, since you now know my name and that I am willing to be truthful and not politically correct to be popular. If your ready to talk I will wait to hear from you .... oh and did you read this post about the falling away of christians .. I dont want you to fall away and be lured by satan into the lgbt world.

 

[Tintin]

Welcome, Kristofor! See, that wasn't so hard after all, was it? God Bless you.

 

[rauleetoe]

That is not what he said this is what he said

"I sense a hate filled vitriol in all those words you spoke..
how about if someone were to do the same with you..
let's see..

So I was talking to this religious dead head KJVonlyist who sounds more like somebody who attends Westboro Baptist Church and uses words like Sodomite to refer to gay men when it is very easy to fixate on that visible sin that makes one uncomfortable but seeing that pride can be quite invisible at times its easier to look on another's visible sin..

Does not sound too nice now does it..
Granted some of it is merited, still..does it make you want to dialogue with me..or does it invoke emotions of anger?"

He turned the question around and asked if you like the same thing done to you. You have accused him of something he never said,which means you are lying and bearing a false witness against him and if you are the Christian you say you are you need to apologize to him and seek his forgiveness for these accusations against him that were false. It's the right thing to do.

I actually am not a high school student by the way..lol. I graduated in the late ninties,and am older than the KJVbiblecatowner himself!

Honestly KJVBiblecat, no one here that i know of hates the King James Bible..I am sure we all have at least one of them in our house,and we all have heard scripture quoted from it,if not read from it ourselves..Nobody is out to get you. I simply turned the very thing you said around, so you could see just how unfair and ludricrous it sounded.

 

[rauleetoe]

You're reading things into people's posts where there is nothing of consequence. The majority of Christians here probably don't agree with gay marriage, abortion etc. but it's the way you go about blasting anyone and bearing false witness (one of the commandments, yes?) against others, that's not godly.

Someone please ban this guy/girl now.

Well Id rather have some dialogue with Mister KJV before he is banned..
Honestly, thats the thing about these forums..people can read into what people said the wrong way at times..however, calling gays 'sodomites' is probably going to have them want to shut you down and not listen to one more thing you have to say..
We are to tell others about the gospel, but why focus just on homosexual sin? Hetersexual sin is bad too(and overlooked,underemphasized), porn addiction, pride,lust, dishonesty,stealing..etc. So why focus just on gay people is all I am saying, too many do, as its the only sin out there..in God's eyes, sin is sin, is sin..its all bad, and it all has the same consequences! Death..'

 

[Tintin]

Yes, the KJV isn't my preferred version. I think it's out-dated and difficult to understand (the archaic words used, not the message). I prefer modern translations. But I don't hate the KJV. What I do dislike greatly is the belief some have that the KJV is the only true version of God's Word and that all other versions are a perversion of God's Truth. Some even say the KJV is truer than the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic originals!

Rauleetoe, that's cool. I'm fine with that since he's now showing more humanity.

 

[rauleetoe]

Yes, the KJV isn't my preferred version. I think it's out-dated and difficult to understand (the archaic words used, not the message). I prefer modern translations. But I don't hate the KJV. What I do dislike greatly is the belief some have that the KJV is the only true version of God's Word and that all other versions are a perversion of God's Truth. Some even say the KJV is truer than the Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic originals!

Rauleetoe, that's cool. I'm fine with that since he's now showing more humanity.

Agreed..granted the KJV, for what it is of its time was a pretty well done translation..a good copy, but not the only 'copy' or translation that is viable! There have been some errors found in it..just like the spanish bibles..its soooo hard to find a spanish bible devoid of catholic influence..the only ones which supposedly *from what is said* devoid of catholic influence are the Reina Valera Purificada(Reina Valera Purified) and the Gomez Bible,which is a revamped/revised 1960 reina Valera basically.

That said, when I read in spanish i tend to go to my 1909 Reina Valera, not because its older..but because it is majestic sounding..and flows,and to me reads a little better(to me at least)than the 1960..most tend to gravitate towards the 1960 Reina Valera..and do not give the others a chance, or some spanish fundamentalists only go for the Purified/Purificada, or the Gomez..i could not care if they are reading a NVI[NIV i spanish)I am just glad they are reading his word.

That said, the KJV is a good copy..

 

[MarkayMrk777]

Hey KJVKAT Person,

Some suggestions for you:

Use the enter key and paragraphs. ( Your posts are too hard to read )
Pick one point and focus on it. You covered too many things.
Speak the truth in love.
Instead of cursing the darkness, light a candle.
For example, if you think there are too many weak Christians,
instead of talking about all the weakness try to encourage
them to be stronger.

1 Corinthians 13:13
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

May you heart swell with love. And may that love be show in your words and actions.

 

[SarahM777]

Well SARAH Im going to start a conversation with you, 1st my name is Kristofor, I am a Cat owner and Ibelieve the bible ( KJV ).... this is my real name and Im not playing make believe. I am going to converse with you and will use bible verses when necessary. First Im assuming your a woman ( as you know poeople make up fake names, stories, etc ) second I assume your a born again christian ( lots of occultists pose as christians ) and third I want you to speak freely without fear to me, since you opened up to me, I will open up to you. I am a christian man who is cellibate and reccomend the same. I will speak freely to you too, if youd like, since you now know my name and that I am willing to be truthful and not politically correct to be popular. If your ready to talk I will wait to hear from you .... oh and did you read this post about the falling away of christians .. I dont want you to fall away and be lured by satan into the lgbt world.

Hello Kristofor,

I am aware of the fact many online do use fake names and will tell false stories. My name is Sarah Michelle (Though for safeties sake I will not give out my last name) and in this I have nothing to hide. I am 54 and I live with my mom who I am the primary care taker for. God has given me the gift of celibacy. I have no desire that way at all. I know of a woman who is going to seminary that is also a witch so I am aware of that also.

We have four cats. I use both the KJV and NIV. (I myself do not speak old English from the 1600's and English itself has changed over the years)


I was raised in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. Yes I am born from above (I like that better then born again but I don't have a problem with being called born again)

I have no problem with not being PC I myself am not either at times. All I ask is that you don't insult them.
They are still human beings made in the image of God. Broken,fallen and sinful I do agree with you.

That is part of the reason I came here because I have seen way to many that were suppose to be Christians but they no longer are,or have picked up a mix of paganism along with a form of Christianity. Many also have gotten away from the Bible being literal (Unless the text itself indicates that it shouldn't be) (Most now go to a UCC or an ELCA type church and not a church where they preach the pure Word)

I do have a number of strong Christians that I am accountable to also. But I am also at a place that I know I need prayer support to be able to be able to keep speaking to them otherwise I will burn out.

 

[PopClick]

You're cool, Ms. Sarah. Your posts are a blessing, and I'm glad you joined cc.

Sorry for interrupting.

 

[SarahM777]

Popclick,

It's not about me,it's all about Jesus and what He did so we could come to the Father. I still have a long ways to go. Sometimes I think He had to use a two by four on me to get though my thick skull.

 

[PopClick]

I'm afraid I've needed that 2x4 myself.

 

[SarahM777]

I'm afraid I've needed that 2x4 myself.

But we can take comfort in the fact that He means it for our good