Holy Flesh Is Surely Possible
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ty for posting the scripture we know Powemm.
do you intend to run ahead with jon4 and add to them?
Colossians 2:8
Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.
Colossians 2:18
Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind.
do you intend to run ahead with jon4 and add to them?
Colossians 2:8
Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.
Colossians 2:18
Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind.
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To answer yes or no, I would have to know what you mean by pre-existence of yourself. Are you asking if I existed before I was born according to the flesh? If so, then we would have to clarify what it means to exist. Can a person exist before they appear? Yes, they can, cause God existed before He appeared to us. Jesus existed before He appeared to us (The Word of God). Did I exist before I appeared? I suppose from a certain perspective the answer is yes:
b_4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
b_4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
explain this blah blah please.
so far you haven't proven:
- The Eternal God existed in flesh ['dead' or alive] prior to the Incarnation.
- God's flesh has always been dead
- that God came to this earth in dead flesh
dead flesh is PUTRID MEAT [which God said is UNCLEAN]
what's the implication ^^ of what you are claiming jon4?
i hope there's no one else on your mystery tour with you.
Mark was right - you need a proper church jon4.
so far you haven't proven:
- The Eternal God existed in flesh ['dead' or alive] prior to the Incarnation.
- God's flesh has always been dead
- that God came to this earth in dead flesh
dead flesh is PUTRID MEAT [which God said is UNCLEAN]
what's the implication ^^ of what you are claiming jon4?
i hope there's no one else on your mystery tour with you.
Mark was right - you need a proper church jon4.
And if dead flesh is unclean then how could Jesus be the perfect sacrifice? A perfect sacrifice could have no spot,defect or blemish. God would have never accepted Jesus death as the perfect sacrifice if He was unclean.
ev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
So if the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, then the dead flesh of Christ must have existed before the dead flesh of Christ appeared?
So if the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, then the dead flesh of Christ must have existed before the dead flesh of Christ appeared?
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Romans 7
[SUP]4 [/SUP]So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[SUP][a][/SUP] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
The Law and Sin
[SUP]7 [/SUP]What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said,
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[SUP]4 [/SUP]So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[SUP][a][/SUP] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
The Law and Sin
[SUP]7 [/SUP]What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said,
CUT MY POST...ARRRRRRG!
pre-existence - CHECK.
Kabbalah/pre-existence of soul
Kabbalah: pre-existence of soul, reincarnation, Gnosticism < click
Kabbalah/pre-existence of soul
Kabbalah: pre-existence of soul, reincarnation, Gnosticism < click
I'll try to make it as simple as I possible know how to.
What was slain from the foundation of the world in this passage? Was it spirit, or flesh?
Rev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
What was slain from the foundation of the world in this passage? Was it spirit, or flesh?
Rev_13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Also, what names were written from the foundation of the world, names of spirits, or names of fleshs?
Rev_17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev_17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.