Why isnt the holocaust in the bible

[eternally-gratefull]

The Siege of Jerusalem in the year 70 was the decisive event of the First Jewish-Roman War. The Roman army, led by the future Emperor Titus, with Tiberius Julius Alexander as his second-in-command, besieged and conquered the city of Jerusalem, which had been occupied by its Jewish defenders in 66.

The siege ended with the sacking of the city and the destruction of its famous Second Temple. The destruction of both the first and second temples is still mourned annually as the Jewish fast Tisha B'Av. The Arch of Titus, celebrating the Roman sack of Jerusalem and the Temple, still stands in Rome.

Josephus claims that 1,100,000 people were killed during the siege, of which a majority were Jewish, and that 97,000 were captured and enslaved, including Simon bar Giora and John of Giscala.[4]

"The slaughter within was even more dreadful than the spectacle from without. Men and women, old and young, insurgents and priests, those who fought and those who entreated mercy, were hewn down in indiscriminate carnage. The number of the slain exceeded that of the slayers. The legionaries had to clamber over heaps of dead to carry on the work of extermination."[5]

Many fled to areas around the Mediterranean. Titus reportedly refused to accept a wreath of victory, saying that the victory did not come through his own efforts but that he had merely served as an instrument of God's wrath.[6]

Siege of Jerusalem (70) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

does that sound like this everyone? be honest with yourself!!

[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’[SUP][c][/SUP] spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), [SUP]16 [/SUP]“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. [SUP]19 [/SUP]But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! [SUP]20 [/SUP]And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. [SUP]21 [/SUP]For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. [SUP]22 [/SUP]And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

How did AD 70 compair in world wide scope to ww2 or ww1? was it greater tribulation than either of those? if Not. again Why did Jesus say it would be so great such as never has been seen before, and will never be seen after?? why did God lie? Did God not know about these two great world wars?

oh and by the way, can someone explain how in ad 70, there was a possibility all flesh (all living creatures) could die? I did not know they had such great weapons back then that all life on earth could become extinct!

and finally. Jesus said he would put an end to it and save flesh for the sake of the elect by returning himself and putting and end to it.. Did this happen in ad 70 to the roman empire?

Lets also not forget. During this time, we were still under the 4th beast of daniel. It had not split yet. thus the final beast had not yet appeared. when Daniel was told all these things would take place!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I do not know if this will help, but Daniel says in plain words that he determined by the prophet, Jeremiah I believe, that there were to have been a total of 70 years of captivity by Babel (Babylon.) The weeks, each representing a year. If this does not help, please ignore my posting.

yes it should help. It was at the end of this time when Daniel was praying, he knew his people had not yet repented. so he feared God would not return the people to their land and restor the city. Which is why he prayed.

thus again we get further context that Daniel was not praying for the induvdual salvation of anyone. but for his NATION AND CITY.

 

[Abiding]

"​after 69 weeks" messiah shall be cut off so what week was He cut off?

 

[zone]

EG - could you address the fact that individuals from all 12 tribes did return; were in the land when Jesus arrived?
you were mistaken about the 10 northern tribes never returning, right?

 

[zone]

"​after 69 weeks" messiah shall be cut off so what week was He cut off?

this is that 69th week which drops off into a vacuum...after which is a time-warp of nothingness in which Jesus was crucified. that time-warp of empty-space-time-non-continuum (which includes all of redemptive History including what's recorded) continues for 2000+ years because the 70th week as of 2013 still hasn't started.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG - could you address the fact that individuals from all 12 tribes did return; were in the land when Jesus arrived?
you were mistaken about the 10 northern tribes never returning, right?

Address the fact? was it called Isreal? were they united? the northern tribe were called the half breeds. Jews would walk around their territory so they would not be made unclean by them.

does this sound like the return of dry bones. where they are united?

can you address the fact that under any gentile power from Babylon to Rome, until AD 70. Isreal was still mostly in her land? Thus the bones still had flesh on them, Although they were quite Ill?

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then He said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, ‘Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!’ [SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, O My people, I will open your graves and cause you to come up from your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought you up from your graves. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I will put My Spirit in you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken it and performed it,” says the Lord.’”

[SUP]19 [/SUP]say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.”’ [SUP]20 [/SUP]And the sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their eyes.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; [SUP]22 [/SUP]and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. [SUP]

23 [/SUP]They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

Did any of this happen when they returned from Exile in babylon?

I think we see that the answer is no. They still defiled themselves with their sins. they still were a divided kingdom. They did not live in peace, but lived as slaves (they could not even rebuild the city without a decree from a gentile king)

 

[Abiding]

this is that 69th week which drops off into a vacuum...after which is a time-warp of nothingness in which Jesus was crucified. that time-warp of empty-space-time-non-continuum (which includes all of redemptive History including what's recorded) continues for 2000+ years because the 70th week as of 2013 still hasn't started.

oh so theres been a changeup? Now we are in the 70th week?

So what am i sposed to do with the real 70th week that did happen, when Christ died?

Jesus did get crucified in the 70th week like Daniel said "after the 69th"

I wish all these changes will quit, its making me dizzy

 

[zone]

here's an example of how dispensationalism handles the 70 weeks, the times of the gentiles, etc.



A CHRONOLOGY OF THE "TIMES OF THE GENTILES"

Compiled by Lambert Dolphin
B.C.
605 The Babylonian Period. The times of the gentiles begin with Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Judah. Egypt defeated at battle of Carchemish. Jerusalem is taken and the first wave of Jews carried into captivity, Daniel among them. Jerusalem will henceforth be trodden down of the gentiles as the times of the gentiles runs its course between the Babylonian captivity and the end of the great tribulation period. The Babylonian dominion of Israel is the head-of-gold period (Daniel 2:36-38; 2 Kings 24:1; 2 Chronicles 36:5-6; Daniel 1:1-2; Luke 21:24).

597 King Jehoiachin is carried captive by Nebuchadnezzar and the second wave of Jews is taken into Babylon, Ezekiel among them (2 Kings 24:10-16; 2 Chronicles 36:10; Ezekiel 1:2).

587 Zedekiah rebels against Nebuchadnezzar. He is blinded and taken to Babylon where he dies. Zedekiah is the last king in the line of David to reign in Israel until the Messiah reigns during the millennium (Ezekiel 34:23-24; Jeremiah 23:5; 2 Kings 24:18-25:21; 2 Chronicles 36:13-21; Jeremiah 39:1-8). Final siege and destruction of the First Temple on the 9th of Av (August) 586. Jeremiah taken to Egypt.

539 Cyrus, having established himself in control of the Medo-Persian empire in 549 B.C., captures Babylon, and the second world empire to dominate the Jews during the times of the gentiles comes upon the world scene. This is the breast-and-arms-of-silver period (Daniel 2:32, 39; 6:1-3).

538 The edict of Cyrus opens the way for the Jews in Babylon to return to the land (Ezra 1:1-4). Second Temple altar in place and foundation laid in 537. Feast of Tabernacles celebrated in 536. Work stops while people build their own houses until Haggai in the fall of 520 BC exhorts them to resume building the Temple. Zerubbabel is governor (but also heir in the line of David) and Joshua is the Aaronic High Priest.

515 The second temple is dedicated in Jerusalem (Ezra 6:15-18). The restoration of the Temple marks the end of the 70 years of captivity.

537-334 The Persian Period. The Jews are in the land but are under the control of the Persians (Josephus, Antiquities 111:7).

445 Artaxerxes decrees the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem, thus beginning Daniel's seventy weeks (Daniel 9:24; Neh 2).

334-167 The Hellenistic Period. The Jews, in the land, are under the successive dominion of the Greeks, then the Ptolemies of Egypt, and then the Seleucids of Syria. This is the third great world empire to dominate the Jews during the times of the gentiles. It is the belly-and-thighs-of-brass era (Daniel 2:32. 39; Josephus, Antiquities 11.7-12.6; Daniel 11:2-20).

175-163 Plunderings of Jerusalem and temple desecration occurs during the reign of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, whom Daniel saw as a type of the coming Antichrist (Daniel 8:1-2; 11:21-35; Josephus, Antiquities 12.5-9; 1 Maccabees 1:16:16; 2 Mac. 4:7-9:28).

167-63 The Maccabean revolt and subsequent Hasmonean dynasty in Judea. A short time of Jewish independence. This is the little-help period of Daniel 11:34. (Josephus, Antiquities 12.6-14.4). Priesthood corrupted and parties of Pharisees and Sadducees take charge of the national religious life. Rome in political control but Greek influence also persists.

A.D.
63-70 The Roman Period. This is the fourth great world empire to dominate the Jews in the times of the gentiles. It is the legs-of-iron-and-feet-of clay era of Daniel 2:33 (Josephus, Antiquities 14.4-20.11). 29/30 The Messiah Prince is cut off on the cross, and the sixty-ninth week of Daniel's prophecy ends. The prophetic time clock stops for Israel and will not resume again until the tribulation (Daniel 9:26).

A Chronology: The Times of the Gentiles < click

^ it goes on through time to say, in typical Scofieldian drama:

FUTURE EVENTS
The rapture of The church. The dead in Christ are raised and the generation of living believers is translated. The judgment seat of Christ is set and rewards are given to believers for faithful service (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-54; 2 Corinthians 5:10-11).

...The gentile nations are judged on the basis of their treatment of God's covenant people Israel, during the times of the gentiles (Matthew 25:31-46). Jesus rules the nations, "with a rod of iron" for 1000 years. Satan and his evil angels are bound and removed to the abyss, Revelation 20. The battered earth is rebuilt and repopulated with God's servants serving him as kings and priests among the nations. Satan bound. Great prosperity and blessing. Israel chief of the nations. The world capital is Jerusalem, and Jesus on the throne of His father David."

~

instead of leaving it where it belonged (according to Daniel's Image with the 10 toes)......'the Times of the Gentiles' being fulfilled in 70AD.

Luke 21:24 C. 30AD
They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

 

[zone]

oh so theres been a changeup? Now we are in the 70th week?

So what am i sposed to do with the real 70th week that did happen, when Christ died?

Jesus did get crucified in the 70th week like Daniel said "after the 69th"

I wish all these changes will quit, its making me dizzy

no, i don't think we're in the dispensational 70th week yet (?)
we're still in the time-warp-super-gap or something.

doesn't the pope or somebody have to confirm a 7 year peace treaty with jews?
doesn't there have to be a temple for that?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"​after 69 weeks" messiah shall be cut off so what week was He cut off?

well lets see. History shows to the date, the 69th week ended on good friday (the week before his death) so that would have put us at the VERY begining of the 70th week. or immediately following the 69th week.

Thus you have problems. Nothing happened the last 7 years. what spectacular things happene around AD 40 that made an end of sin?

And why did not the destruction happen in the 7 year time period. It was part of the prophesy!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

this is that 69th week which drops off into a vacuum...after which is a time-warp of nothingness in which Jesus was crucified. that time-warp of empty-space-time-non-continuum (which includes all of redemptive History including what's recorded) continues for 2000+ years because the 70th week as of 2013 still hasn't started.

this is why we can;t talk. Is there any reason you need to be sarcastic? For someone who considers me to be her brother. you sure are not speaking this way.

 

[zone]

well lets see. History shows to the date, the 69th week ended on good friday (the week before his death) so that would have put us at the VERY begining of the 70th week. or immediately following the 69th week.

so even in this system, Jesus is killed in non-time. after the prophetic clock stops (which isn't found anywhere btw).

 

[zone]

this is why we can;t talk. Is there any reason you need to be sarcastic? For someone who considers me to be her brother. you sure are not speaking this way.

i do consider you my brother.
i love and respect you.

i can't stand dispensational magical 70th week nonsense.

it's the concept that deserves no respect.
it's ridiculous.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

here's an example of how dispensationalism handles the 70 weeks, the times of the gentiles, etc.



A CHRONOLOGY OF THE "TIMES OF THE GENTILES"

Compiled by Lambert Dolphin
B.C.
605 The Babylonian Period. The times of the gentiles begin with Nebuchadnezzar's conquest of Judah. Egypt defeated at battle of Carchemish. Jerusalem is taken and the first wave of Jews carried into captivity, Daniel among them. Jerusalem will henceforth be trodden down of the gentiles as the times of the gentiles runs its course between the Babylonian captivity and the end of the great tribulation period. The Babylonian dominion of Israel is the head-of-gold period (Daniel 2:36-38; 2 Kings 24:1; 2 Chronicles 36:5-6; Daniel 1:1-2; Luke 21:24).

597 King Jehoiachin is carried captive by Nebuchadnezzar and the second wave of Jews is taken into Babylon, Ezekiel among them (2 Kings 24:10-16; 2 Chronicles 36:10; Ezekiel 1:2).

587 Zedekiah rebels against Nebuchadnezzar. He is blinded and taken to Babylon where he dies. Zedekiah is the last king in the line of David to reign in Israel until the Messiah reigns during the millennium (Ezekiel 34:23-24; Jeremiah 23:5; 2 Kings 24:18-25:21; 2 Chronicles 36:13-21; Jeremiah 39:1-8). Final siege and destruction of the First Temple on the 9th of Av (August) 586. Jeremiah taken to Egypt.

539 Cyrus, having established himself in control of the Medo-Persian empire in 549 B.C., captures Babylon, and the second world empire to dominate the Jews during the times of the gentiles comes upon the world scene. This is the breast-and-arms-of-silver period (Daniel 2:32, 39; 6:1-3).

538 The edict of Cyrus opens the way for the Jews in Babylon to return to the land (Ezra 1:1-4). Second Temple altar in place and foundation laid in 537. Feast of Tabernacles celebrated in 536. Work stops while people build their own houses until Haggai in the fall of 520 BC exhorts them to resume building the Temple. Zerubbabel is governor (but also heir in the line of David) and Joshua is the Aaronic High Priest.

515 The second temple is dedicated in Jerusalem (Ezra 6:15-18). The restoration of the Temple marks the end of the 70 years of captivity.

537-334 The Persian Period. The Jews are in the land but are under the control of the Persians (Josephus, Antiquities 111:7).

445 Artaxerxes decrees the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem, thus beginning Daniel's seventy weeks (Daniel 9:24; Neh 2).

334-167 The Hellenistic Period. The Jews, in the land, are under the successive dominion of the Greeks, then the Ptolemies of Egypt, and then the Seleucids of Syria. This is the third great world empire to dominate the Jews during the times of the gentiles. It is the belly-and-thighs-of-brass era (Daniel 2:32. 39; Josephus, Antiquities 11.7-12.6; Daniel 11:2-20).

175-163 Plunderings of Jerusalem and temple desecration occurs during the reign of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, whom Daniel saw as a type of the coming Antichrist (Daniel 8:1-2; 11:21-35; Josephus, Antiquities 12.5-9; 1 Maccabees 1:16:16; 2 Mac. 4:7-9:28).

167-63 The Maccabean revolt and subsequent Hasmonean dynasty in Judea. A short time of Jewish independence. This is the little-help period of Daniel 11:34. (Josephus, Antiquities 12.6-14.4). Priesthood corrupted and parties of Pharisees and Sadducees take charge of the national religious life. Rome in political control but Greek influence also persists.

A.D.
63-70 The Roman Period. This is the fourth great world empire to dominate the Jews in the times of the gentiles. It is the legs-of-iron-and-feet-of clay era of Daniel 2:33 (Josephus, Antiquities 14.4-20.11). 29/30 The Messiah Prince is cut off on the cross, and the sixty-ninth week of Daniel's prophecy ends. The prophetic time clock stops for Israel and will not resume again until the tribulation (Daniel 9:26).

A Chronology: The Times of the Gentiles < click

^ it goes on through time to say, in typical Scofieldian drama:

FUTURE EVENTS
The rapture of The church. The dead in Christ are raised and the generation of living believers is translated. The judgment seat of Christ is set and rewards are given to believers for faithful service (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-54; 2 Corinthians 5:10-11).

...The gentile nations are judged on the basis of their treatment of God's covenant people Israel, during the times of the gentiles (Matthew 25:31-46). Jesus rules the nations, "with a rod of iron" for 1000 years. Satan and his evil angels are bound and removed to the abyss, Revelation 20. The battered earth is rebuilt and repopulated with God's servants serving him as kings and priests among the nations. Satan bound. Great prosperity and blessing. Israel chief of the nations. The world capital is Jerusalem, and Jesus on the throne of His father David."

~

instead of leaving it where it belonged (according to Daniel's Image with the 10 toes)......'the Times of the Gentiles' being fulfilled in 70AD.

Luke 21:24 C. 30AD
They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

out of all this. only one sentence needs to be adressed.

Time fo the gentile fulfilled in 70 AD? thats funny. in 70- AD there was till only one king in Rome, and its empire was still strong as iron..

I guess we just forget about the final beast and the great tribulation.

And yet again. Your going of what SOME PEOPLE say. since when do you think I base my doctrine on what they say.

Again why we can;t discuss. everything I say you base it on what you have been told I believe. and NOT on what I am saying!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so even in this system, Jesus is killed in non-time. after the prophetic clock stops (which isn't found anywhere btw).

No he was killed when it was said he would be killed. After the 69th week

Your trying to read to much into it. Are you denying the end of the 69th week ended on what we celebrate as good friday? And did Not christ die 7 days later..

Prophesy fulfilled to the T

Now we have to find out when the rest of daniel 9 happens.

the destruction of the city by the people of the prince who is to come
the wars and desolation which occure for an unspecified time frame.
the one week covenant confirmed by the future prince.
the abomination committed BY THAT SAME PRINCE
and finally the consumation which is determined is poured out (gods wrath) on the desolate.

All these things happen in the 70th week. Yet they did not happen within 7 years of the death of Christ.

thus you have major issues!

 

[zone]

No he was killed when it was said he would be killed. After the 69th week

Your trying to read to much into it. Are you denying the end of the 69th week ended on what we celebrate as good friday? And did Not christ die 7 days later..

Prophesy fulfilled to the T

Now we have to find out when the rest of daniel 9 happens.

the destruction of the city by the people of the prince who is to come
the wars and desolation which occure for an unspecified time frame.
the one week covenant confirmed by the future prince.
the abomination committed BY THAT SAME PRINCE
and finally the consumation which is determined is poured out (gods wrath) on the desolate.

All these things happen in the 70th week. Yet they did not happen within 7 years of the death of Christ.

thus you have major issues!

no EG, your timeline is off.
Jesus's Ministry TO ISRAEL started the 70th week.

In the Christian gospels, the ministry of Jesus begins with his baptism in the countryside of Roman Judea and Transjordan, near the river Jordan, and ends in Jerusalem, following the Last Supper with his disciples.[1] The Gospel of Luke (3:23) states that Jesus was "about 30 years of age" at the start of his ministry.[2][3] A chronology of Jesus typically has the date of the start of his ministry estimated at around 27-29 AD/CE and the end in the range 30-36 AD/CE.[2][2][3][3][4][5][6]

He was killed in the middle of that 70th week.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i do consider you my brother.
i love and respect you.

i can't stand dispensational magical 70th week nonsense.

it's the concept that deserves no respect.
it's ridiculous.

Fine then.

I can't stand the concept which states God eternal promises have no value. That God will just renig on his promise based on the fact the people do not deserve it. thus God has given it to the church. or the fact that we have to twist scripture to get our belief system to fit with the word of God.

It is nonsense and ridiculous.

there we go. True brothers and sisters making statements which does not add to the discussion. Does not prove either one is right or wrong. and does nothing to promote the kingdom of God.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

no EG, your timeline is off.
Jesus's Ministry TO ISRAEL started the 70th week.

No it does not. It was proven last night. I will just repast her comments. which lines up with historical fact.

the order to rebuild jerusalem is apparently the rebuilding of jerusalem's walls under nehemiah...that would have been 444 BC...

sixty-nine 'weeks' times seven years is 483 years...evidently those are hebrew ceremonial years of 360 days...otherwise nothing in the prophecy works at all... so you multiply 483 years times 360 days and you get 173,880 actual days...and then you divide by 365.25 days to get literal 'solar' years...which gives you about 476 years...

476 years after 444 BC is AD 33 which evidently is when jesus arrived in jerusalem the week of his crucifixion...so this method of calculating seems to work...

The end of the 69th week occured on the day Jesus entered jerusalem. NOT three years earlier.

He was killed in the middle of that 70th week

You still have major issues.

1. That means the last 3.5 years of the week, we should see

the continual wars and desolations
the covenant confirmed
the abomination of desolation
the time with was decreed poured out on the desolate

Non of them has happened even today, and even if you declare it happen in 70 ad. Your timeline does not fit. YOU STILL HAVE A GAP
the

 

[zone]

I can't stand the concept which states God eternal promises have no value.

come on EG.
i would never suggest such a thing.
He kept and will keep all His Promises.

if all this madness in the world today is over a sliver of Land in the Middle East with no redemptive value for anyone, maybe we need to rethink the whole thing.

so the jews get Jerusalem but perish in their sins.
nah...


Luke 22:37
It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

John 4:34
"My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.

John 17:4
I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.

love you bud.

 

[zone]

No it does not. It was proven last night. I will just repast her comments. which lines up with historical fact.

the order to rebuild jerusalem is apparently the rebuilding of jerusalem's walls under nehemiah...that would have been 444 BC...

sixty-nine 'weeks' times seven years is 483 years...evidently those are hebrew ceremonial years of 360 days...otherwise nothing in the prophecy works at all... so you multiply 483 years times 360 days and you get 173,880 actual days...and then you divide by 365.25 days to get literal 'solar' years...which gives you about 476 years...

476 years after 444 BC is AD 33 which evidently is when jesus arrived in jerusalem the week of his crucifixion...so this method of calculating seems to work...

The end of the 69th week occured on the day Jesus entered jerusalem. NOT three years earlier.

You still have major issues.

1. That means the last 3.5 years of the week, we should see

the continual wars and desolations
the covenant confirmed
the abomination of desolation
the time with was decreed poured out on the desolate

Non of them has happened even today, and even if you declare it happen in 70 ad. Your timeline does not fit. YOU STILL HAVE A GAP
the

pretend there's no future unfinished business just for a few minutes. you say it's just a Land Promise. put that aside for just a moment.
just suspend your belief that the 70th week was put on hold, the Plan B was implemented (Church Age), then soon in the future the 70th week kicks in.

just pretend for a few minutes that doesn't exist and never entered your mind.

read this as if it actually took place in history, for Daniel's people, to fulfill the promises made to the fathers.
don't bother with left over days or anything.

just look at the content of it.
the things that were said to happen.
the things Daniel was told were going to happen future to him....about his people, and concerning the Messiah.
we know Jesus came and did everything needed to make reconciliation....everything.
keep in mind just the rough and historical fact that Jerusalem was destroyed in 70AD by Titus.


Daniel 9
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

is there anything missing?
does that cover historical fact?

was any of that interrupted just so israel could live in Palestine until Jesus comes in Judgment?

you believe eventually this earth will be destroyed and a new earth (eternity) will happen, right?
so the dirt that now is, isn't eternal at all.