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I have written it out
Paul said that Abraham is the Father of those who believe
Would we say he is God too
Christ is the head of the new covennant, he is the Father of it
But you would not consider him God the father Himself would you?
So the term everlasting Father must refer to vsomething else
The new covenant, Christ is the Father of that new covenanat, as Abraham according to Pauil is our Father in relation to the covenant that began with him(Rom4)
Likewise, Christ is termed the mighty God of the new covenant also
I assume vou are referring in your question to Isiaih ch 9
Paul said that Abraham is the Father of those who believe
Would we say he is God too
Christ is the head of the new covennant, he is the Father of it
But you would not consider him God the father Himself would you?
So the term everlasting Father must refer to vsomething else
The new covenant, Christ is the Father of that new covenanat, as Abraham according to Pauil is our Father in relation to the covenant that began with him(Rom4)
Likewise, Christ is termed the mighty God of the new covenant also
I assume vou are referring in your question to Isiaih ch 9
I understand Mark. I am simply asking how He can be God in the New Testament and yet not be God.
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[SUP][[/SUP][SUP]f[/SUP][SUP]]
THE Father refers to Christ in the above with the Title God, but still says he is Christ's God
Christ said there was only one TRUE GOD(true being the important word) the Father[/SUP]
I understand Mark. I am simply asking how He can be God in the New Testament and yet not be God.
But we don't want to Get confused. I think the above is the more common way I would look at it
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[SUP]8 [/SUP]But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[SUP][[/SUP][SUP]f[/SUP][SUP]]
THE Father refers to Christ in the above with the Title God, but still says he is Christ's God
Christ said there was only one TRUE GOD(true being the important word) the Father[/SUP]
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[SUP][[/SUP][SUP]f[/SUP][SUP]]
THE Father refers to Christ in the above with the Title God, but still says he is Christ's God
Christ said there was only one TRUE GOD(true being the important word) the Father[/SUP]
Do you think He could have been talking to the Word in the first verse and then to the Son, the man named Jesus, in the second? With the understanding that the Word is from all eternity and the Son, still being that Word, has a beginning?
I just see it that Christ came in THE NAME of the Father
tHE Father refered to him with the title God, but still stressed He was Christ's God.
In Exodus God said to moses:
See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. [SUP]22 [/SUP]If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
But generally we refer(or I do) to Christ as my lORD and Saviour
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For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), [SUP]6 [/SUP]yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
But we don't want to Get confused. I think the above is the more common way I would look at it
But we don't want to Get confused. I think the above is the more common way I would look at it
there is but one God the Father
and
one Lord Jesus Christ.
And this was said in contradiction of those who believed in idols (many gods)
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That's a bit deep for me(though i am tired)
I just see it that Christ came in THE NAME of the Father
tHE Father refered to him with the title God, but still stressed He was Christ's God.
In Exodus God said to moses:
See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. [SUP]22 [/SUP]If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
But generally we refer(or I do) to Christ as my lORD and Saviour
I just see it that Christ came in THE NAME of the Father
tHE Father refered to him with the title God, but still stressed He was Christ's God.
In Exodus God said to moses:
See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. [SUP]22 [/SUP]If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
But generally we refer(or I do) to Christ as my lORD and Saviour
As to Exodus, God gave all authority (name) to the Angel of the Lord (the Word) and we see that when we read Mat 28:18: All authority is given to me in Heaven and on Earth. The Word, who we know as Jesus in the flesh, came with all authority.
It was the Word who took upon Himself flesh and received the title Son. So yes, I agree with you, the Word, who became the Christ (God among us) by His incarnation,did indeed come in the name of the Father.
As to Exodus, God gave all authority (name) to the Angel of the Lord (the Word) and we see that when we read Mat 28:18: All authority is given to me in Heaven and on Earth. The Word, who we know as Jesus in the flesh, came with all authority.
As to Exodus, God gave all authority (name) to the Angel of the Lord (the Word) and we see that when we read Mat 28:18: All authority is given to me in Heaven and on Earth. The Word, who we know as Jesus in the flesh, came with all authority.
Christ spoke the words of God on this earth. How could he do that?
I am interested as to your response to this
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Yes, the intent of capitalizing the 'S'.
The reason I ask is because when you ask that question to most Equal Trinitarians, and you ask them how Christ could perform miracles, they normally reply, because God was in Him, very few specifically state it was because the Holy Spirit dwelt in Christ, that is why I was interested in your response