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OK, but I am not going to write it all out because I know you will ignore them, you will need to look these up yourself
Ex23:20-22
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Ex 24:9-11
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John 1:12
Then
Psalm 110:1
Then
Luke1:43
Then John 20:28
BTW
As you believe Jesus is God because he forgave sins, bearing in mind John 20:23, how many people do you believe are God? I make that at least 13 so far
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Yes, those words are a promise, and I know the promises of God are unbreakable. I see that Christ (the anointed one/Father) is the spirit/soul combo, and Jesus Christ/priest after the order of Melchisidec/ Captain of the Host of the Lord is the spirit/soul/earthen vessel combo. We are spirit/soul/earthen vessel all with measure combo, and we all have a beginning.
I know it is hard for you Cfultz, as it is for others on this website
Basically, in a nutshell, I have the plain text, you have your extrapolations of other texts, and the extrapolations of the men you follow
Where is the wise man, where is the scholar, where is the philosopher of this age?
Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world..................
1Cor1:20
C
So, will you show me my error from the plan text I quoted
Originally Posted by cfultz3
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Who are we in: He who is true.
Who is that: Jesus Christ.
Which one is the true God: that One who was just spoken about.
What else is that One: eternal Life.
Jesus: ....I am the Life (John 14:6)
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Who are we in: He who is true.
Who is that: Jesus Christ.
Which one is the true God: that One who was just spoken about.
What else is that One: eternal Life.
Jesus: ....I am the Life (John 14:6)
If you believe that, how are you monotheist? You cannot just state those verses and say 'I see three God's so far!' when you have no answer or response to those verses in the first place. I have a simple answer to these verses, but let me use a reference you haven't quoted yet. In the inspired scriptures, Isaiah had a vision to which he was ushered into the throne room of God and what did Isaiah say he saw? Many glorious things! Seraphim, the temple with smoke, and the Lord HOLY, HOLY, HOLY! Wasn't this God whom he saw? Yes! Absolutely, but what does the other part of inspired scripture that gives an explanation of this passage say?
Who is the him that John proclaims Isaiah sees? The context states it is Jesus. As a Trinitarian, I can state that Isaiah saw God AND saw Jesus. How would you understand this passage in John when John himself says that Isaiah saw Jesus, but Isaiah said he saw God?
The same can be said with these other passages. Jesus is in reference with these passages. Psalm 110:1 is found in Mark 12:35-36 Jesus asks them a question on who the Christ is and simply asks how they can understand that the Christ is David's son when David calls him Lord? The Lord is whom in this passage?
And since you brought it up, how do you understand the passage
Who is the him that John proclaims Isaiah sees? The context states it is Jesus. As a Trinitarian, I can state that Isaiah saw God AND saw Jesus. How would you understand this passage in John when John himself says that Isaiah saw Jesus, but Isaiah said he saw God?
The same can be said with these other passages. Jesus is in reference with these passages. Psalm 110:1 is found in Mark 12:35-36 Jesus asks them a question on who the Christ is and simply asks how they can understand that the Christ is David's son when David calls him Lord? The Lord is whom in this passage?
And since you brought it up, how do you understand the passage
So, will you show me my error from the plan text I quoted
Originally Posted by cfultz3
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Who are we in: He who is true.
Who is that: Jesus Christ.
Which one is the true God: that One who was just spoken about.
What else is that One: eternal Life.
Jesus: ....I am the Life (John 14:6)
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Who are we in: He who is true.
Who is that: Jesus Christ.
Which one is the true God: that One who was just spoken about.
What else is that One: eternal Life.
Jesus: ....I am the Life (John 14:6)
But why should i keep answering your verses when you will not accept the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth?
It is stupid. If you will not accept the plain verses I put before you, why should I respond to your verses?
Act 4:8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
Act 4:9 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
And we can obviously list many names of Jesus Christ/God/The Holy Spirit of The Right Hand of The Father, Jesus Christ our Lord.
Your theological extrapolations mean nothing to me, here is plain scripture
Now this is eternal life, that they may know you,(the Father) the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent
John 17:3
That is plain scripture, i do not want theological extrapolations, please give me very plain scripture, as I have you to prove your point
And
As you believe Christ is God because he could forgive sins, bearing in mind John 20:23 how many people do you believe are God?
Now this is eternal life, that they may know you,(the Father) the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent
John 17:3
That is plain scripture, i do not want theological extrapolations, please give me very plain scripture, as I have you to prove your point
And
As you believe Christ is God because he could forgive sins, bearing in mind John 20:23 how many people do you believe are God?
Don't be silly Cfultz. I have been around these websites for long enough to be clued up. You simply want to ignore the scripture i place before you, and just keep coming back with your own and want my understanding of it, that is the reality
If you refuse to accept the plain words of Christ in the scripture I gave you, why should I keep responding to your scriptures, it is ridiculous
C
But Mr. Mark, you assume what I believe. I never once denied that one only has to believe that Jesus is the Son of God for salvation. If I said it once or a thousand times, it would not have matter because you would just say that I never did answer it.
Not every Brother and Sister is your enemy and out to get you. But, may I just suggest that you hear people and not go by what you think they are saying.
My only concern is where you said that Jesus is the Mighty God of the New Testament, but yet say that He is not God and the usage of that doctrinated version of scripture.
Not every Brother and Sister is your enemy and out to get you. But, may I just suggest that you hear people and not go by what you think they are saying.
My only concern is where you said that Jesus is the Mighty God of the New Testament, but yet say that He is not God and the usage of that doctrinated version of scripture.
Jesus Christ = Holy Spirit/soul/earthen vessel combo without measure (God). The same applies to The Captain of The Host of the Lord, and the priest after the order of Melchisidec, and both of those we see before Jesus. Just because we see the Captain of the Host of the Lord and the priest after the order of Melchisidec first, it doesn't mean that's what we're supposed to call the Captain and Priest. His name is called the Word of God, Jesus Christ of Nazareth from Heaven.