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There is no spite and you proclaim you are too stupid to understand not i.
By the witness of what came to pass in my life do i share with you.
You have made it clear that you are putting your trust in the catholic religion.
i have no faith in the catholic church no you are correct.
My Faith is in the Almighty God and the Messiah.
i do not need to seek through a religion for he came when i called.
After reading the Word with prayer and meditation for a while now, and looking at the doctrines of so many denominations, I see a sea of ignorance perpetrated on mankind. To ask anyone to mediate between God, Yahweh, and men is an abomination and an insult to the sacrifice of our Lord, Yeshua. It is a denial of Christ. He, and only He, is Mediator between man and Yahweh, for He is the only One Who earned this, though it was His in the first place. To pray to the dead asking them to pray for you is blasphemy, a total demonstration of darkness, and total abomination. One of the first things the new pope did was to pray to Mary. This praying to Mary, the most blessed of women, is desguised as quoting the Word because it is the greeting afforded her by Elizabeth in the Word, however man, the RCC, adds more in worship of her, saying Holy Mary, Mother of God..... If anyone reads the Word and does not see the blatant perversions he is blind.
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Awesome question, brother. I am now finished with the other questions lol. I was in class a few weeks ago, and we spoke about this. I hope I get this as close as I can to what I was taught and after studying and praying, what I believe. I was told by the priest, that we are judged by what is in our hearts. If we live by the law, we are judged by the law. If we choose to follow the Catholic Church (which I do because I see it goes by the teachings of Christ), then we must confess our sins. However, if one doesn't follow the Catholic Church and is not part of it, and believes truly in his heart (for God knows what is truly in a man's heart) that he needs not go to confession but needs to confess to God and God only, and does so sincerely and truly tries to not sin again, then he will be judged according to what's in his heart.
We have two types of sin (and I know people are going to comment on this part like I've heard so many times before): Venial sin and Mortal sin. Mortal sin is knowing you are about to sin and offend God, but go through with the sin anyway, therefore intentionally breaking that bond with Him. This is a serious sin which, if not confessed and pennance payed for (not in money) before death, results in the being thrown in the firey furnace. Venial sin is sin being committed either unintentionally or being unaware of it. These are the sins we go to the cleansing place for (purgatory). And yes, I agree with the Catholic Church on this, and believe it. There's alot that goes with it, but that's the basics. If you meant something else, please tell me and I will answer. Thanks brother. God bless
We have two types of sin (and I know people are going to comment on this part like I've heard so many times before): Venial sin and Mortal sin. Mortal sin is knowing you are about to sin and offend God, but go through with the sin anyway, therefore intentionally breaking that bond with Him. This is a serious sin which, if not confessed and pennance payed for (not in money) before death, results in the being thrown in the firey furnace. Venial sin is sin being committed either unintentionally or being unaware of it. These are the sins we go to the cleansing place for (purgatory). And yes, I agree with the Catholic Church on this, and believe it. There's alot that goes with it, but that's the basics. If you meant something else, please tell me and I will answer. Thanks brother. God bless
But it's the blood of Jesus that cleanses us from all unrighteousness.
The idea of a purgatory suggests that Jesus' blood was not enough, that there is something additional that must happen before a person can get to heaven.
We must be born again to see the Kingdom of heaven. This spiritual birth has to take place while we're still alive. It's too late once we're dead. First come death, then judgment. We then spend eternal life in one of two places. There is no in between place.
Can you tell me where purgatory is mentioned in the bible? I just don't see it.
The idea of a purgatory suggests that Jesus' blood was not enough, that there is something additional that must happen before a person can get to heaven.
We must be born again to see the Kingdom of heaven. This spiritual birth has to take place while we're still alive. It's too late once we're dead. First come death, then judgment. We then spend eternal life in one of two places. There is no in between place.
Can you tell me where purgatory is mentioned in the bible? I just don't see it.
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Katy, we're never going to agree on this because you go on Scripture alone, and I go on Scripture, early Church Fathers, and other things that you will see in the following quote I take from the book I'm reading. This is a quick answer for you, but I won't type the whole thing out because, as i said before, we will never agree anyway.
For Catholics the strongest argument for the existence of purgatory is the constant and universal writings of the early Church Fathers, the ancient liturgies of the East and West, the numerous inscriptions on the walls of the Catacombs, and in the pronouncements of the Councils of Florence (1438-45) and Trent (1545-63).
2 Macc. 12, 43-46 shows that the Jews in the Old Testament certainly believed in a middle state where the dead could profit from the sacrifices and prayers of the living:
"And making a gathering, (Judas Maccabeus) sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead...It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins" (Douai).
Protestants deny the canonicity of the Maccabean books, nevertheless, their historical value cannot be denied, and even Jewish prayer books today contain such prayers. If the doctrine of purgatory had been invented by the Jews, undoubtedly, it would have been condemned by Jesus Christ, as He condemned them for a long list of changes in doctrine and discipline in St. Matt. 23.
On the contrary, the doctrine of purgatory is actually implied in the Gospels: "I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the very last penny" (St. Luke 12, 59); "Whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world nor in the World to come" (St. Matt. 12, 32 [Douai]). According to Pope St. Gregory the Great the words of Christ in St. Matthew infer that sins can be forgiven in the next life. Now this cannot be done in heaven or hell, but only in another state which the Church calls purgatory.
I found a place where I could cut and copy! lol But this is has some passages where Purgatory is implied in Scripture. This is how we came to believe Purgatory exists, anyway. Peace
For Catholics the strongest argument for the existence of purgatory is the constant and universal writings of the early Church Fathers, the ancient liturgies of the East and West, the numerous inscriptions on the walls of the Catacombs, and in the pronouncements of the Councils of Florence (1438-45) and Trent (1545-63).
2 Macc. 12, 43-46 shows that the Jews in the Old Testament certainly believed in a middle state where the dead could profit from the sacrifices and prayers of the living:
"And making a gathering, (Judas Maccabeus) sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead...It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins" (Douai).
Protestants deny the canonicity of the Maccabean books, nevertheless, their historical value cannot be denied, and even Jewish prayer books today contain such prayers. If the doctrine of purgatory had been invented by the Jews, undoubtedly, it would have been condemned by Jesus Christ, as He condemned them for a long list of changes in doctrine and discipline in St. Matt. 23.
On the contrary, the doctrine of purgatory is actually implied in the Gospels: "I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the very last penny" (St. Luke 12, 59); "Whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world nor in the World to come" (St. Matt. 12, 32 [Douai]). According to Pope St. Gregory the Great the words of Christ in St. Matthew infer that sins can be forgiven in the next life. Now this cannot be done in heaven or hell, but only in another state which the Church calls purgatory.
I found a place where I could cut and copy! lol But this is has some passages where Purgatory is implied in Scripture. This is how we came to believe Purgatory exists, anyway. Peace
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"But purgatory is unnecessary, for Christ’s death on the Cross has paid all debt of punishment for sin."
Christ’s death on the Cross sufficed to redeem humanity and free us from the eternal damnation of hell, but it did not free us from the need to undergo temporal punishments for sin. For example, humanity is still subject to the temporal punishments of labor, pain, sickness and death even though we have now been redeemed. St. Paul makes this point clear when writing to the Colossians: "I am now rejoicing in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am completing what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church" (1, 24).
The essential reason why Protestants reject the doctrine of purgatory is due to their belief in the un-Scriptural doctrines of total depravity and non-imputation of sin concocted by Luther and Calvin. They taught that the sin of Adam so damaged humanity that we were now nothing more than wild beasts whose every actions, no matter how good, were sinful. Since we are incapable of good actions there is nothing we can do to remit our temporal punishments either for ourselves or for anyone else. Only Christ is therefore capable of achieving this and this He did on the Cross. Further, as our souls are already totally depraved any additional sin on our part cannot leave a "stain of sin" which needs to be purified in purgatory. By accepting Christ as our "personal Lord and Savior" God "covers up" our sinful natures, in this way making us fit to enter the Kingdom of heaven.
Finally, the Bible makes it clear that in the past there has existed more than just the two places of heaven and hell in the next world. St. Peter tells us (1 Pet. 3, 19) that after His death Jesus preached His redemption "to the spirits in prison." Therefore, the concept of another temporary, intermediate place such as purgatory is not totally out of the question.
Just thought I'd throw this one in too, seen as I can just cut and paste it now lol. Sorry.
Christ’s death on the Cross sufficed to redeem humanity and free us from the eternal damnation of hell, but it did not free us from the need to undergo temporal punishments for sin. For example, humanity is still subject to the temporal punishments of labor, pain, sickness and death even though we have now been redeemed. St. Paul makes this point clear when writing to the Colossians: "I am now rejoicing in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am completing what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church" (1, 24).
The essential reason why Protestants reject the doctrine of purgatory is due to their belief in the un-Scriptural doctrines of total depravity and non-imputation of sin concocted by Luther and Calvin. They taught that the sin of Adam so damaged humanity that we were now nothing more than wild beasts whose every actions, no matter how good, were sinful. Since we are incapable of good actions there is nothing we can do to remit our temporal punishments either for ourselves or for anyone else. Only Christ is therefore capable of achieving this and this He did on the Cross. Further, as our souls are already totally depraved any additional sin on our part cannot leave a "stain of sin" which needs to be purified in purgatory. By accepting Christ as our "personal Lord and Savior" God "covers up" our sinful natures, in this way making us fit to enter the Kingdom of heaven.
Finally, the Bible makes it clear that in the past there has existed more than just the two places of heaven and hell in the next world. St. Peter tells us (1 Pet. 3, 19) that after His death Jesus preached His redemption "to the spirits in prison." Therefore, the concept of another temporary, intermediate place such as purgatory is not totally out of the question.
Just thought I'd throw this one in too, seen as I can just cut and paste it now lol. Sorry.
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Protestants deny the canonicity of the Maccabean books, nevertheless, their historical value cannot be denied, and even Jewish prayer books today contain such prayers. If the doctrine of purgatory had been invented by the Jews, undoubtedly, it would have been condemned by Jesus Christ, as He condemned them for a long list of changes in doctrine and discipline in St. Matt. 23.
But what did you think about the rest of that comment? About the quotes from the Gospels for example?
But what did you think about the rest of that comment? About the quotes from the Gospels for example?
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Here's what I find from the bible
That Jesus on the cross told the thief that today you will be with me in Paradise
We are also told that As Jonah was in the belly of the fish Jesus will be 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth.
We also know that Even after Jesus' resurrection he said touch me not for I have not yet ascended to the father so therefore he could not have went to heaven yet.
I was going to referrence 1 Peter 3:19 but noted you made mention of that where we are told
"he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— [SUP]20[/SUP] to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. "
He already accomplished ministering to those lost spirits which were there before he came.
What I see is that there must have been an intermediatory place which was called Paradise by Christ.
Also a place called Hades
We also have the story of the rich man and Lazarus with the great chasm between but able to see one another.
Although when Christ died he ministered to those lost which had died before otherwise it would not have been fair and just to those being saved after Christ came.
If there were prayers for those waiting, that which they had been waiting for was Christ himself and their salvation or not accomplished when Christ came. Thats exactly what they were put in waiting for was Christ.
After Christ said it is finished, there is no further excuse for those afterward not to be saved and not to believe and therefore no reason to be concerned about those dead since Christ said let the dead bury the dead...come and follow me
After Christ on the cross a few things changed
Which is why I asked if the book of Maccabees was before Christ or after.
That Jesus on the cross told the thief that today you will be with me in Paradise
We are also told that As Jonah was in the belly of the fish Jesus will be 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth.
We also know that Even after Jesus' resurrection he said touch me not for I have not yet ascended to the father so therefore he could not have went to heaven yet.
I was going to referrence 1 Peter 3:19 but noted you made mention of that where we are told
"he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— [SUP]20[/SUP] to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. "
He already accomplished ministering to those lost spirits which were there before he came.
What I see is that there must have been an intermediatory place which was called Paradise by Christ.
Also a place called Hades
We also have the story of the rich man and Lazarus with the great chasm between but able to see one another.
Although when Christ died he ministered to those lost which had died before otherwise it would not have been fair and just to those being saved after Christ came.
If there were prayers for those waiting, that which they had been waiting for was Christ himself and their salvation or not accomplished when Christ came. Thats exactly what they were put in waiting for was Christ.
After Christ said it is finished, there is no further excuse for those afterward not to be saved and not to believe and therefore no reason to be concerned about those dead since Christ said let the dead bury the dead...come and follow me
After Christ on the cross a few things changed
Which is why I asked if the book of Maccabees was before Christ or after.
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Charlie Thank you, as I believe you want as well is only the wisdom of God and this is only received form God through the Son where at the cross he took away all sin in God the Father's sight so that he could live in us seeing no sin because he sees through the Son at us with no sin, So that through the Holy Ghost he can teach us truth from error. For error I found out puts me in bondage and truth delivers me from bondage, and I have been in bondage many times, when I found me in bondage I had to re-think my truth
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the problem is, temporal punishments will not save us, not make us alive in Christ. Christ paid the debt for all sin as far as salvation goes. Only death can remove sin, this is what the law taught us.. Sin could not be removed unless the sacrifice took place. there were no temporal sin judgments in the OT which allowed someone to make it to heaven.
Absolutely, for itmis God that:
Romans 14:4Who are you (anyone of us) to condemn someone else’s servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord’s help, they will stand and receive his approval.
Romans 14:4Who are you (anyone of us) to condemn someone else’s servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord’s help, they will stand and receive his approval.
Thanks for your answer, now is confession for forgiveness to get more forgiveness? And are we not to have our consciemces purged from sin via the cross. I say and ask this because of the scripture that states this
2 Corinthians 1:12[ Paul’s Change of Plans ] We can say with confidence and a clear conscience that we have lived with a God-given holiness and sincerity in all our dealings. We have depended on God’s grace, not on our own human wisdom. That is how we have conducted ourselves before the world, and especially toward you.
1 Timothy 1:5The purpose of my instruction is that all believers would be filled with love that comes from a pure heart, a clear conscience, and genuine faith.
1 Timothy 1:19Cling to your faith in Christ, and keep your conscience clear. For some people have deliberately violated their consciences; as a result, their faith has been shipwrecked.
Titus 1:15Everything is pure to those whose hearts are pure. But nothing is pure to those who are corrupt and unbelieving, because their minds and consciences are corrupted.
Now the folloowing is how I found out to get a clear conscience
Hebrews 9:9This is an illustration pointing to the present time. For the gifts and sacrifices that the priests offer are not able to cleanse the consciences of the people who bring them.
Hebrews 9:14Just think how much more the blood of Christ will purify our consciences from sinful deeds so that we can worship the living God. For by the power of the eternal Spirit, Christ offered himself to God as a perfect sacrifice for our sins.
Hebrews 10:22let us go right into the presence of God with sincere hearts fully trusting him. For our guilty consciences have been sprinkled with Christ’s blood to make us clean, and our bodies have been washed with pure water.
Hebrews 13:18Pray for us, for our conscience is clear and we want to live honorably in everything we do.
Now in understanding how to accomplish this I ahd to give up my works and understand taht it is all done in his works, when he went to the cross it was the final sacrifice and the final shedding of Blood as the final payment for all sin he did once and for all
Romans 6:10For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Hebrews 7:27who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
Hebrews 9:12Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 10:10By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Jude 1:3[ Contend for the Faith ] Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
Hebrews 9:22In fact, according to the law of Moses, nearly everything was purified with blood. For without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness.
Hebrews 10:18And when sins have been forgiven, there is no need to offer any more sacrifices.
So anyway when I discovered this and was asking God to forgive me conrinuously I kept hearing that I am already forgiven and that the whle world is by Christ at the cross itis finished. So I researched further and learned that the reason I continued in sin so much and could not stop it was when I saw this verse
Galatians 6:8For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
I saw this that even if I thinkj of the flesh even not wanting to do things of the flesh I saw and see that it was sowing the flesh period and I was reaping the flesh by trying not to do the flesh as taught in almost all denominations. I sought then to start the new life praising my savior all day long thanking him that all my past sins are gone and in praising him all day long for him doing this for me, I found that by starting the new Life the old life had gotten forsaken my mind no longer pondering whether or not I will sin again or not, too busy with this new life for that to affect me any longer, too busy thanking God for purging my conscience from even pondering sin. Thanks Charlie it is a pleasure to have met you here and desire to keep sharpening one another in the Faith of Christ
2 Corinthians 1:12[ Paul’s Change of Plans ] We can say with confidence and a clear conscience that we have lived with a God-given holiness and sincerity in all our dealings. We have depended on God’s grace, not on our own human wisdom. That is how we have conducted ourselves before the world, and especially toward you.
1 Timothy 1:5The purpose of my instruction is that all believers would be filled with love that comes from a pure heart, a clear conscience, and genuine faith.
1 Timothy 1:19Cling to your faith in Christ, and keep your conscience clear. For some people have deliberately violated their consciences; as a result, their faith has been shipwrecked.
Titus 1:15Everything is pure to those whose hearts are pure. But nothing is pure to those who are corrupt and unbelieving, because their minds and consciences are corrupted.
Now the folloowing is how I found out to get a clear conscience
Hebrews 9:9This is an illustration pointing to the present time. For the gifts and sacrifices that the priests offer are not able to cleanse the consciences of the people who bring them.
Hebrews 9:14Just think how much more the blood of Christ will purify our consciences from sinful deeds so that we can worship the living God. For by the power of the eternal Spirit, Christ offered himself to God as a perfect sacrifice for our sins.
Hebrews 10:22let us go right into the presence of God with sincere hearts fully trusting him. For our guilty consciences have been sprinkled with Christ’s blood to make us clean, and our bodies have been washed with pure water.
Hebrews 13:18Pray for us, for our conscience is clear and we want to live honorably in everything we do.
Now in understanding how to accomplish this I ahd to give up my works and understand taht it is all done in his works, when he went to the cross it was the final sacrifice and the final shedding of Blood as the final payment for all sin he did once and for all
Romans 6:10For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
Hebrews 7:27who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
Hebrews 9:12Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 10:10By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Jude 1:3[ Contend for the Faith ] Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
Hebrews 9:22In fact, according to the law of Moses, nearly everything was purified with blood. For without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness.
Hebrews 10:18And when sins have been forgiven, there is no need to offer any more sacrifices.
So anyway when I discovered this and was asking God to forgive me conrinuously I kept hearing that I am already forgiven and that the whle world is by Christ at the cross itis finished. So I researched further and learned that the reason I continued in sin so much and could not stop it was when I saw this verse
Galatians 6:8For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
I saw this that even if I thinkj of the flesh even not wanting to do things of the flesh I saw and see that it was sowing the flesh period and I was reaping the flesh by trying not to do the flesh as taught in almost all denominations. I sought then to start the new life praising my savior all day long thanking him that all my past sins are gone and in praising him all day long for him doing this for me, I found that by starting the new Life the old life had gotten forsaken my mind no longer pondering whether or not I will sin again or not, too busy with this new life for that to affect me any longer, too busy thanking God for purging my conscience from even pondering sin. Thanks Charlie it is a pleasure to have met you here and desire to keep sharpening one another in the Faith of Christ
I think today purgatory is over after the death burial and resurrection in Christ for he went and preached to the spirits in Prison (Abrahams bosom) the dead in the graves at the death of Christ rose from graves, and those that believed went with him as he took captivity captive,
Ephesians 4:8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Luke 16:22So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
This section was before the death of Christ on the cross, Now I do believe that the devil was accusiing man of sin all the time prior to the new covenant that is in place today by the death of Christ at the cross and therefore there was Abrahams Bosom an dI think Old Testament Saints were kept here and fits to the theology you have spoken of. But as I see it not after the cross. For at the cross all sin was forgiuven by God the Father of christ through Christ the propitiaition for all sin, releasing us from the curse of the Law that flesh in no way can obey it not 100% and therefore there was a need for
a new Covenant
Hebrews 7:11[ Need for a New Priesthood ] Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:12For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 7:19for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
Hebrews 7:28For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.
Hebrews 10:1[ Animal Sacrifices Insufficient ] For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Love you Charlie these things that I have posted are just what I see that god did for us the ones that believe in him and I belong to no church here on earth I belong to God and am just Thankful fro the wonderful salvation he has given out for all to see and rejoice in it freed from stress, freed from worry, just love love love as in 1Cor 13 the reception of that from God is unnatural for mankind and so far I see this is what you show, thanks for that lesson
Ephesians 4:8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Luke 16:22So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
This section was before the death of Christ on the cross, Now I do believe that the devil was accusiing man of sin all the time prior to the new covenant that is in place today by the death of Christ at the cross and therefore there was Abrahams Bosom an dI think Old Testament Saints were kept here and fits to the theology you have spoken of. But as I see it not after the cross. For at the cross all sin was forgiuven by God the Father of christ through Christ the propitiaition for all sin, releasing us from the curse of the Law that flesh in no way can obey it not 100% and therefore there was a need for
a new Covenant
Hebrews 7:11[ Need for a New Priesthood ] Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:12For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 7:19for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
Hebrews 7:28For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.
Hebrews 10:1[ Animal Sacrifices Insufficient ] For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Love you Charlie these things that I have posted are just what I see that god did for us the ones that believe in him and I belong to no church here on earth I belong to God and am just Thankful fro the wonderful salvation he has given out for all to see and rejoice in it freed from stress, freed from worry, just love love love as in 1Cor 13 the reception of that from God is unnatural for mankind and so far I see this is what you show, thanks for that lesson
And this is why and how now I see King David saying
Psalm 100:4Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, And into His courts with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His name.
Seeing the cross afar off just like allthe other Saints that walked by Faith put in Abrahams bosom until the time of the death of Christ and where we are under a new covenant Hebrews 9:15-17
Psalm 100:4Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, And into His courts with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His name.
Seeing the cross afar off just like allthe other Saints that walked by Faith put in Abrahams bosom until the time of the death of Christ and where we are under a new covenant Hebrews 9:15-17