The problem of female pastors
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I am a liar or, is what I am reading lying ?
I'll re-post in case you missed this :
Huldah – Prophetess II Kings II Chronicles Head of God's house. Men at one time in the scripture, they're confused , they want to know what the word of God has to say.So they went down to the university, God's house, The head of it was Huldah ( Women ) And Huldah gave them the answers from God's word . 2 Kings 22:13-16, 2 Kings 22:20, 2 Chronicles 34:22-28
This is only one, example .
Later I will put together notes with all related scripture on women ( expect it some time )... By the end, a reasonable person will see that God does use women, to teach, and many other things... Everyone ells, I expect to remain in the river Nile.
I'll re-post in case you missed this :
Huldah – Prophetess II Kings II Chronicles Head of God's house. Men at one time in the scripture, they're confused , they want to know what the word of God has to say.So they went down to the university, God's house, The head of it was Huldah ( Women ) And Huldah gave them the answers from God's word . 2 Kings 22:13-16, 2 Kings 22:20, 2 Chronicles 34:22-28
This is only one, example .
Later I will put together notes with all related scripture on women ( expect it some time )... By the end, a reasonable person will see that God does use women, to teach, and many other things... Everyone ells, I expect to remain in the river Nile.
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You rotten liar. Nowhere do these verses say that a woman had authority over a man. A pastor is someone who has authority in the church, and no woman in the Bible was ever in this position. All you're doing is chopping up the Bible into bits and pieces and cherry picking verses out of context to make a case for women pastors, but you have nothing concrete.
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I posted scripture along with it. Anyone with a little patience will take the time, to read the scripture I posted. It is open for reading.
I never called you names . Why call me names for studying and reading the Word of God, and what is written ?
To call me a wolf for sticking up for women, God's creation is silly. While you on the other hand, are working to silence half of all God's church. Who is the wolf here then? A person who's elevator reaches the top ; will come to the right answer.
I never called you names . Why call me names for studying and reading the Word of God, and what is written ?
To call me a wolf for sticking up for women, God's creation is silly. While you on the other hand, are working to silence half of all God's church. Who is the wolf here then? A person who's elevator reaches the top ; will come to the right answer.
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No, you are not getting it 
I suffer not a woman to teach authority, if you read Scripture, means the woman is not to teach she is the alpha personality or the dominant sex. Look up the word 'authentein,' the Greek word for 'authority,' and, THEN, get back to me with your judgmentalism, which, on that note, speak wisely, Proverbs says, steph. Judging others is NEVER speaking wisely, and, no, you are not judging disobedience to God, this issue has ZERO to do with sinning, LOL, it has to do with TWO different interpretations of a passage. Don't make this into more than it is, k
OK, then the next part speaks of "I suffer not a woman to HAVE AUTHORITY over a man but to be silent" Again, this is Paul extrapolating, not only are women not to teach they are SUPERIOR SEX (in charge over men), they are to NOT HAVE domineering control over men in a church.
So, this said, how in the world is a woman PREACHING to a man having control over him?? It's not. There is only ONE person who has control over us. God ! And, Jesus said only one person granted people any ability to have authority over Him. God!
It's all about God !!!!!
Thinking a woman pastor has control over you is just plain silly, and, thinking a man pastor has control over you is just plain silly. The Holy Spirit has control over you, NO MATTER WHICH SEX IS SPEAKING, He is the author and perfector of YOUR faith
Debra was a judge, she had authority.
If Paul was speaking to her, he would say, 'Please, do not teach you are in control of men, you are merely judging them based on what THEY HAVE DONE , their own actions judges them."
Priscilla and Aquinas, both, a man and a woman spoke to others in their homes ABOUT God, taught God. Read Acts. It's in there
I suffer not a woman to teach authority, if you read Scripture, means the woman is not to teach she is the alpha personality or the dominant sex. Look up the word 'authentein,' the Greek word for 'authority,' and, THEN, get back to me with your judgmentalism, which, on that note, speak wisely, Proverbs says, steph. Judging others is NEVER speaking wisely, and, no, you are not judging disobedience to God, this issue has ZERO to do with sinning, LOL, it has to do with TWO different interpretations of a passage. Don't make this into more than it is, k
OK, then the next part speaks of "I suffer not a woman to HAVE AUTHORITY over a man but to be silent" Again, this is Paul extrapolating, not only are women not to teach they are SUPERIOR SEX (in charge over men), they are to NOT HAVE domineering control over men in a church.
So, this said, how in the world is a woman PREACHING to a man having control over him?? It's not. There is only ONE person who has control over us. God ! And, Jesus said only one person granted people any ability to have authority over Him. God!
It's all about God !!!!!
Thinking a woman pastor has control over you is just plain silly, and, thinking a man pastor has control over you is just plain silly. The Holy Spirit has control over you, NO MATTER WHICH SEX IS SPEAKING, He is the author and perfector of YOUR faith
Debra was a judge, she had authority.
If Paul was speaking to her, he would say, 'Please, do not teach you are in control of men, you are merely judging them based on what THEY HAVE DONE , their own actions judges them."
Priscilla and Aquinas, both, a man and a woman spoke to others in their homes ABOUT God, taught God. Read Acts. It's in there
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Yes, anyone who takes the time to read it, which I have, will see that you are a rotten liar that has distorted the holy scriptures. I call you a wolf for lying about God's word. Nobody is interested in your liberal feminist heresy. Please take it back to the devil and tell him we're not interested.
No, you are not getting it
I suffer not a woman to teach authority, if you read Scripture, means the woman is not to teach she is the alpha personality or the dominant sex. Look up the word 'authentein,' the Greek word for 'authority,' and, THEN, get back to me with your judgmentalism, which, on that note, speak wisely, Proverbs says, steph. Judging others is NEVER speaking wisely, and, no, you are not judging disobedience to God, this issue has ZERO to do with sinning, LOL, it has to do with TWO different interpretations of a passage. Don't make this into more than it is, k
OK, then the next part speaks of "I suffer not a woman to HAVE AUTHORITY over a man but to be silent" Again, this is Paul extrapolating, not only are women not to teach they are SUPERIOR SEX (in charge over men), they are to NOT HAVE domineering control over men in a church.
So, this said, how in the world is a woman PREACHING to a man having control over him?? It's not. There is only ONE person who has control over us. God ! And, Jesus said only one person granted people any ability to have authority over Him. God!
It's all about God !!!!!
Thinking a woman pastor has control over you is just plain silly, and, thinking a man pastor has control over you is just plain silly. The Holy Spirit has control over you, NO MATTER WHICH SEX IS SPEAKING, He is the author and perfector of YOUR faith
I suffer not a woman to teach authority, if you read Scripture, means the woman is not to teach she is the alpha personality or the dominant sex. Look up the word 'authentein,' the Greek word for 'authority,' and, THEN, get back to me with your judgmentalism, which, on that note, speak wisely, Proverbs says, steph. Judging others is NEVER speaking wisely, and, no, you are not judging disobedience to God, this issue has ZERO to do with sinning, LOL, it has to do with TWO different interpretations of a passage. Don't make this into more than it is, k
OK, then the next part speaks of "I suffer not a woman to HAVE AUTHORITY over a man but to be silent" Again, this is Paul extrapolating, not only are women not to teach they are SUPERIOR SEX (in charge over men), they are to NOT HAVE domineering control over men in a church.
So, this said, how in the world is a woman PREACHING to a man having control over him?? It's not. There is only ONE person who has control over us. God ! And, Jesus said only one person granted people any ability to have authority over Him. God!
It's all about God !!!!!
Thinking a woman pastor has control over you is just plain silly, and, thinking a man pastor has control over you is just plain silly. The Holy Spirit has control over you, NO MATTER WHICH SEX IS SPEAKING, He is the author and perfector of YOUR faith
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I posted scripture. ( Period ). Explain the verses I posted as distorted ? Are you calling the verses I posted distorted because that is how its coming off as. God's word speaks for it's self. And I would not call God's word liberal heresy .Nor is the scripture I posted of the devil. It is God;s word. Any self respecting Christian would take God's word over your words. If your not interested in reading the scriptures I posted that is of course your prerogative.
Your" attitude towards Christians" wanting to ask questions and longing for a deeper understanding of God; is uglier then your Photo ...
Anyone that does not allow you to learn God's word , nor allows you to ask questions, would have to confined to cult.
Your" attitude towards Christians" wanting to ask questions and longing for a deeper understanding of God; is uglier then your Photo ...
Anyone that does not allow you to learn God's word , nor allows you to ask questions, would have to confined to cult.
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In other words, what Nate is saying to you, steph, is that Huldah was speaking out the word of God, this is a position of authority, being a prophet, but, again, she has no authority over you as whoever ministers to you is going to be revealing NOTHING to you, they are but a 'pure vessel,' men and women in Scripture, just read what Paul says in 1 Cor. 1, his premise is that the Spirit is speaking through Him, it is NOT Paul speaking words of scholar and persuasion to the Corinth people, that is his hope and prayer. Paul wants the Corinth people to see him as a PURE VESSEL because Paul has no authority over them. None !
Only God has authority. Maybe someone is IN a position of authority, but they are NOT to abuse that authority, to teach that someone in authority is to DOMINATE those below them, and, furthermore, the person IN AUTHORITY is not to HAVE AUTHORITY over those in the congregation. There is neither slave nor free, Jew nor Gentile, but ALL are one in Christ Jesus. And, yes, Christ heads church, man is under Christ and woman is under man. But, again, man is NOT in authority of His wife but the man's wife IS to submit to the man, who is her HUSBAND.
LOL, the way I speak , do I really sound feminine to you, steph
Only God has authority. Maybe someone is IN a position of authority, but they are NOT to abuse that authority, to teach that someone in authority is to DOMINATE those below them, and, furthermore, the person IN AUTHORITY is not to HAVE AUTHORITY over those in the congregation. There is neither slave nor free, Jew nor Gentile, but ALL are one in Christ Jesus. And, yes, Christ heads church, man is under Christ and woman is under man. But, again, man is NOT in authority of His wife but the man's wife IS to submit to the man, who is her HUSBAND.
LOL, the way I speak , do I really sound feminine to you, steph
No what Jesus had was righteous anger and zeal for god, and he only rebuked the pharasee's and the people like them. This is not what you are doing, you are acting out of hate and anger. I am being patient with you because i want you to see the love of god. Is this anger really from people lying about the word of god? Or is it about something else? Because it just appears that whenever someone does not agree with you, you burst out of anger and say mean things. You are not honoring god's word this way, Didn't Jesus also say love thy neighbor as thy self? Treat others the way you want to be treated?
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About huldah, she was a prophetess, correct, in today's church if God has a message for the church, primarily He will use a woman to speak a prophecy to the church, does that make her a pastor? No it doesn't. And it is a fullfilment of what Peter said in acts 2, if you study God's word you will see a marked difference between the male prophets and the female prophets, the men went out and preached God's warnings in public, however the women prophets spoke to men in private, there is no record of them preaching to multitudes
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No.
Only God has control over you. He ALONE is your authority
Women are not to teach they are in authority of man. Men are not to teach they are in authority of women either.
Paul explains: "Adam was formed first and then Eve," in verse 14 of 1 Tim. 2 .
But, where does this say that Paul is saying a man is to have authority over a woman ?
Paul speaks of Eve doing the 'transgression' in the next verse (14) . This is a reason why she should not 'teach authority' or 'have authority' over a man.
Again, Paul does not say that a man should have control over a woman either. Neither has control. Eve transgressed but we all know who SINNED ! It wasn't Eve. "SHE was deceived," verse 14 says too; Adam sinned !
So, there is cause to believe that NEITHER sex should have authority over the other, no?
And, then in verse 15 , Paul says that a woman shall be 'saved in childbearing.'
Again, this does NOT speak of Paul saying a man should, therefore, have authority over a woman. He is just saying that a woman should be comforted in the fact that God will save them in 'this' way. She does not need to feel like she NEEDS control of a man (how many women feel helpless around men, and, FEEL like they need control over them??? Many ! ) Paul is saying here,'Hey, I know it's tough, the men treat you like dirt but , for one thing, it's not right to teach you are in control of them because they WANT to control you, they are not supposed to control you, but, sigh, they want to. And, for another thing, you are just plain not to have control over man in the church, ladies (notice, I didn't use the word 'women pastors"), for God made man first and woman, second."
This is ALL to appease women , so they can see that they are NOT in control. He is appeasing these Corinth women, and, Paul is NOT telling these women to be subservient to men in the church, just to NOT teach they are in control over them or to have control over them.
Only God has control over you. He ALONE is your authority
Women are not to teach they are in authority of man. Men are not to teach they are in authority of women either.
Paul explains: "Adam was formed first and then Eve," in verse 14 of 1 Tim. 2 .
But, where does this say that Paul is saying a man is to have authority over a woman ?
Paul speaks of Eve doing the 'transgression' in the next verse (14) . This is a reason why she should not 'teach authority' or 'have authority' over a man.
Again, Paul does not say that a man should have control over a woman either. Neither has control. Eve transgressed but we all know who SINNED ! It wasn't Eve. "SHE was deceived," verse 14 says too; Adam sinned !
So, there is cause to believe that NEITHER sex should have authority over the other, no?
And, then in verse 15 , Paul says that a woman shall be 'saved in childbearing.'
Again, this does NOT speak of Paul saying a man should, therefore, have authority over a woman. He is just saying that a woman should be comforted in the fact that God will save them in 'this' way.
She does not need to feel like she NEEDS control of a man (how many women feel helpless around men, and, FEEL like they need control over them??? Many ! ) Paul is saying here,'Hey, I know it's tough, the men treat you like dirt but , for one thing, it's not right to teach you are in control of them because they WANT to control you, they are not supposed to control you, but, sigh, they want to. And, for another thing, you are just plain not to have control over man in the church, ladies (notice, I didn't use the word 'women pastors"), for God made man first and woman, second."This is ALL to appease women , so they can see that they are NOT in control. He is appeasing these Corinth women, and, Paul is NOT telling these women to be subservient to men in the church, just to NOT teach they are in control over them or to have control over them.