Zechariah 12:10
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I have asked this on other threads I will try again. How many end time gatherings are there How many times does the Messiahs blood have to aniont the ark Dan 9;24 Do you not see a mirror image of what GOD has all ready done this thing over there in israel is a counterfiet.
It will bring about the false god. I am not going to list all the scripture. I can just look back at most the threads you guys know them.
A question?
Do you think man or the enemy could really have a war against GOD that would last more than an atomic second? Think about what you are saying it is prideful and sick. When Yeshua comes there will be no war they cant fight against GOD this is a lie.
The enemy has got to finish his work and become LIKE the most high Isa. 14 this will happen .We are not to help him! Why cant you people see this.
Please step back and look at it just for a Min.
If you follow the 7 feast Lev 23 they fit both pictures. First the spring feast Yeshua is THE LAMB 2nd fall feast HE is the LION that is what they practice for about 1,500 years. Notice that most all the imagery in Rev. deals with the fall fruits wines and grapes and such all harvested at the time of the beginning of the fall feast. Paul and the people new this, that is why He says last trump.
They know Paul is dealing with the feast of trumpets. Yeshua brings a new Heaven and a new Earth and the real city of Jerusalem = Pointing the way to wholeness This is the meaning of the word Jerusalem. Be hold I have made all things new.
Israel is not dirt. ISRAEL = THE MAN WHO TURNS THE HEAD OF GOD.
By helping this abomination you will help them build there kingdom here why cant you see this. More to the point show me in the scriptures where and why I should help any one rebuild that temple.
I am the Temple you are the Temple.
If you want to support john hagee and perry stone walid and all the rest of the false teachers go ahead. At least have the guts to go over there and shoot those people in the face and take there things. I hate the zionist movement and the return to jewish roots lie WAKE UP PEOPLE IT IS A TRAP.
Go into all the world and bring them back here to Jerusalem is that what Yeshua said no. I CANT SEE THAT ANYWHERE!!
I dont wont anyone to hurt people of any faith but we are going to have to get in one accord here at the end. Cant you see by fighting back with truth not guns they will come and kill us it is going to happen. What will you do when they start rounding up all that wont support this thing and kill them.
Will you stand by and watch them kill your sistes and brothers in Christ on here? At what point will you wake up and stop killing. Do you really think Yeshua ,JESUS would want us to be part of this. He paid the price for all of us HE hung there naked and beaten with a crown of thorns for me and for all He finished Dan 9;24. Why cant you see these things. Lift your hands and ask GOD if it is ok to support this mass murder and one world movement thing. What does GOD tell you? If HE tells you to support it then go over and help them kill the people.
I know what Peter meant when he spoke about twisting scripture 2Pt 3;16 Make sure Peter is not talking about you.
The enemy is a counterfieter that is what he does.
Think about this you are standing and watching the whole thing unfold in front of you with the snakes and Aaron and Moses Exd. 7;11 how would you know which snake is which. Think about that counterfiet lie. Everybody was amazed and we know what happened by producing 2 counterfiet snakes it made the pharaohs heart even more bold to stand against GOD.
The counterfiet all ways looks real; Build the temple again, Kingdom know teaching ,Our best life now. These are all traps and many others. That is why Yeshua says broad is the gate Mt.7;13-14 GOD doesnt need our help killing anyone.
Just food for thought.
It will bring about the false god. I am not going to list all the scripture. I can just look back at most the threads you guys know them.
A question?
Do you think man or the enemy could really have a war against GOD that would last more than an atomic second? Think about what you are saying it is prideful and sick. When Yeshua comes there will be no war they cant fight against GOD this is a lie.
The enemy has got to finish his work and become LIKE the most high Isa. 14 this will happen .We are not to help him! Why cant you people see this.
Please step back and look at it just for a Min.
If you follow the 7 feast Lev 23 they fit both pictures. First the spring feast Yeshua is THE LAMB 2nd fall feast HE is the LION that is what they practice for about 1,500 years. Notice that most all the imagery in Rev. deals with the fall fruits wines and grapes and such all harvested at the time of the beginning of the fall feast. Paul and the people new this, that is why He says last trump.
They know Paul is dealing with the feast of trumpets. Yeshua brings a new Heaven and a new Earth and the real city of Jerusalem = Pointing the way to wholeness This is the meaning of the word Jerusalem. Be hold I have made all things new.
Israel is not dirt. ISRAEL = THE MAN WHO TURNS THE HEAD OF GOD.
By helping this abomination you will help them build there kingdom here why cant you see this. More to the point show me in the scriptures where and why I should help any one rebuild that temple.
I am the Temple you are the Temple.
If you want to support john hagee and perry stone walid and all the rest of the false teachers go ahead. At least have the guts to go over there and shoot those people in the face and take there things. I hate the zionist movement and the return to jewish roots lie WAKE UP PEOPLE IT IS A TRAP.
Go into all the world and bring them back here to Jerusalem is that what Yeshua said no. I CANT SEE THAT ANYWHERE!!
I dont wont anyone to hurt people of any faith but we are going to have to get in one accord here at the end. Cant you see by fighting back with truth not guns they will come and kill us it is going to happen. What will you do when they start rounding up all that wont support this thing and kill them.
Will you stand by and watch them kill your sistes and brothers in Christ on here? At what point will you wake up and stop killing. Do you really think Yeshua ,JESUS would want us to be part of this. He paid the price for all of us HE hung there naked and beaten with a crown of thorns for me and for all He finished Dan 9;24. Why cant you see these things. Lift your hands and ask GOD if it is ok to support this mass murder and one world movement thing. What does GOD tell you? If HE tells you to support it then go over and help them kill the people.
I know what Peter meant when he spoke about twisting scripture 2Pt 3;16 Make sure Peter is not talking about you.
The enemy is a counterfieter that is what he does.
Think about this you are standing and watching the whole thing unfold in front of you with the snakes and Aaron and Moses Exd. 7;11 how would you know which snake is which. Think about that counterfiet lie. Everybody was amazed and we know what happened by producing 2 counterfiet snakes it made the pharaohs heart even more bold to stand against GOD.
The counterfiet all ways looks real; Build the temple again, Kingdom know teaching ,Our best life now. These are all traps and many others. That is why Yeshua says broad is the gate Mt.7;13-14 GOD doesnt need our help killing anyone.
Just food for thought.
A great message given in relation to this...
"The test of our talk is if at the end of the talking, we are closer to God, then all is well, but if we have erected barriers between one another and have moved further from God, then all is not well. The aim of all Christian discussion and action is to bring a man nearer to God and fellow believers. The Words and Works of men will reveal whether their heart is pure"
Pickles - here I sit with a bible in hand and the Holy Spirit to guide me. No desire whatsoever to take on "ism" labels of men or credit any belief I have to men, as if I follow them, just what I read from scripture and understand of it. Some on here must believe they have some kind of infallibility, very evident when they see everyone else as wrong, except of course for themselves.
I believe it was Paul who said in 1 Cor 1:10-13: "Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
"The test of our talk is if at the end of the talking, we are closer to God, then all is well, but if we have erected barriers between one another and have moved further from God, then all is not well. The aim of all Christian discussion and action is to bring a man nearer to God and fellow believers. The Words and Works of men will reveal whether their heart is pure"
Pickles - here I sit with a bible in hand and the Holy Spirit to guide me. No desire whatsoever to take on "ism" labels of men or credit any belief I have to men, as if I follow them, just what I read from scripture and understand of it. Some on here must believe they have some kind of infallibility, very evident when they see everyone else as wrong, except of course for themselves.
I believe it was Paul who said in 1 Cor 1:10-13: "Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
By the way, preterism is one to be weary of...
"Preterism's "Kingdom Now" worldview helps fuel the global unity that will plunge the world into the coming powerful dominion of the Antichrist. Since Preterists believe we're in the kingdom now, they unknowingly work toward advancing this global kingdom under the guise of advancing the gospel. We exhort the church to stand against such deception so its growth is hindered and believers will not be duped into protecting false teachings through allegorized interpretations of the Word that lead toward false eschatologies"
Thankyou for your answer, but reading this chapter seems to be speaking to more than simply the feast.
I see Peter more concernd and warning of false teachings.
This same warning I have seen in other letters written by Peter, even going so far as to speaking to reliecing
hy-me-nae'us and phi-le'tus to saten because of this false teaching.
Thankyou again for any more you can help with.
I am simply concerned as there has been so much division caused by these different teachings.
God bless
pickles
God bless
W
Zech 12 seems to describe the acknowledgement of Jesus as the Messiah, who (incidentally) was "pierced". John 19 says that Jesus was "pierced" during the Crucifixion. So, if-and-when Jews acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, then they will mourn for him whom they "pierced". But, does John 19 imply, that Zech 12 was fulfilled in full, or only that it was set up to be fulfilled ?