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Hmm... I wonder why he was 'ganged up on'....



Ah ha!

Guess who can read his OP? ... Anyone in the entire world who has access to the internet.

This ain't some small group or social club -- it's a public international forum!

Tact.
International or not, the topic is christians winking at sin. Im glad the world sees what I already know. The world is full of lax christians whose hearts have waxed cold towards the real truth written in God word. Let em look on. They already know anyways. Why do you think they stay away from the modern day church? They dont want to keep company with pew warmers:)

AND, I brought up the topic of spreading the gospel and I didnt have one person say AMEN! I do that too! Unbelievable!!
 
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International or not, the topic is christians winking at sin. Im glad the world sees what I already know. The world is full of lax christians whose hearts have waxed cold towards the real truth written in God word. Let em look on. They already know anyways. Why do you think they stay away from the modern day church? They dont want to keep company with pew warmers:)

AND, I brought up the topic of spreading the gospel and I didnt have one person say AMEN! I do that too! Unbelievable!!
It would be pretty difficult for most people to understand the point of this thread by the thread's title (Re: Pro-adultry and fornication thread) and by the OP.

Take the auntieant's advice, Sir.

Meh, All I see by your comment is a super-negative view of today's Christians and "look at how good I am".
 
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International or not, the topic is christians winking at sin. Im glad the world sees what I already know. The world is full of lax christians whose hearts have waxed cold towards the real truth written in God word. Let em look on. They already know anyways. Why do you think they stay away from the modern day church? They dont want to keep company with pew warmers:)

AND, I brought up the topic of spreading the gospel and I didnt have one person say AMEN! I do that too! Unbelievable!!
We did that for years, tracts, was useless. The turbo Torben method works much better and first a lot of prayer.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOCE--KFaVw
 
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This thread is just a way of focusing on sin ... being sin focused gives the glory to the devil, as we relate to sin and and not to Jesus. You can worship sin if you like, I on the other hand will worship Christ, and relate to HIM.

Its about as interesting and yummy as a spam and custard wrap ...

meh

you know, spam can be not too bad if fried or put into eggs

the custard has to go though
 
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Dear brother Mitspa ~ I pm'd you this message but feel I should humble myself and send it publicly.

I'm gonna bow out of the thread because I think I've contributed enough and I don't want our friendship ruined over differences of opinion. I totally love you in the Lord and am thankful you are my eternal spiritual brother. God bless you always!

Your sis & friend, Violet/AuntieAnt

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We did that for years, tracts, was useless. The turbo Torben method works much better and first a lot of prayer.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOCE--KFaVw
Tracts are not useless. God can use whatever works. Which btw, I wasnt talking about just using tracts. I do it the hard way too which means I open my mouth and ask people if they know Jesus Christ. I dont ask them if they are a christian because its quite sadly obvious that term has been watered down in this day and age
 
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It would be pretty difficult for most people to understand the point of this thread by the thread's title (Re: Pro-adultry and fornication thread) and by the OP.

Take the auntieant's advice, Sir.

Meh, All I see by your comment is a super-negative view of today's Christians and "look at how good I am".
I know my desperate need for my savior. I dont think Im good but nice little jab! Talk about judging...............meh
 
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That would be a sight to behold wouldn't it? Maybe you should try it. Go find someone in church who is in open rebellion against God, tie em up and rebuke em, crack a whip on em a few times and see how many years in prison it'll get you. Lol
I do believe he would enjoy it...not the prison part

cause that is actually what he's doing here...only he's using his tongue for the lashing
 
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You refer to Acts 13, correct? Where the proconsul, Sergius Paulus sent for Paul & Barnabas to tell him about Christ Jesus.

You have to remember, Jesus did not do anything without the Father's directive. Neither did Paul. It said the Holy Spirit showed Paul that Elymas the Jewish sorcerer & false prophet was filled with the devil, and that he was purposely trying to thwart the Word of God being told to the proconsul.

Paul did not strike the sorcerer blind. It plainly reads that Paul proclaimed to Elymas, "Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind for a time, not even able to see the light of the sun.” Paul basically prophesied what God was going to do.

Paul knew from experience you don't "kick against the pricks" with God. You don't proclaim your own will and call it God's working. Paul did that once. He dragged people to their death believing he was doing God a favor. And Paul was struck blind for a time and was humbled by the Lord.

Now Elymas was attempting the same stunt. But Paul spoke by the anointing of the Holy Spirit, "You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?" The sorcerer needed to have an end to his shenanigans because he was interfering in someone's salvation (the proconsul).

When the Lord made a example of the sorcerer, the proconsul was amazed and believe Jesus Christ.

So we have these 2 facts:

1. Paul would not dare to do something of his own accord, he did what the Holy Spirit directed him to do. He learned his lesson on the road to Damascus.

2. Elymas was doing exactly what Paul did as Saul, interfering with God's work in bringing people to salvation thru Christ. Elymas got stopped exactly how Paul got stopped: BY GOD'S HAND.

There is no way Paul went around ranting and raving about particular sinners. Paul knew better than to cowboy the gospel. Paul was a humble man, a fatherly man, and he would deny any testimony that gave him credit for anything he did in Christ.

Galatians 6:14
But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

I Corinthians 2:2
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ…
Of course Paul acted in the Will of God ..that's MY POINT... that Paul and Christ often rebuked and even acted against people in ways that that most folks who don't understand real biblical love don't seem to understand ...and yes Paul clearly blinded the man by the power of God ...that was love and judgment is shown throughout the scriptures and to deny judgment and focus only on what makes people feel good...is to mislead people.

Ac 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.
12 Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

Those who come into the Lords Church and teach the gay agenda or even allow it....need to be warned ...and believers who reject holiness ..need to be warned! that's love
 
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I know my desperate need for my savior. I dont think Im good but nice little jab! Talk about judging...............meh
It's not a jab--it's my sincere understanding of what you just communicated!

If that's not what you intended to communicate--perhaps you could clarify or learn to better communicate in the future.

I usually try to learn from feedback from other people concerning what I have said.

Take it for what it's worth.
 
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I guess your issue is with Jesus and Paul? Because that's the scriptures and that's what they did...you don't like it? What can I do? But thats the real Jesus and the real Paul. And be sure that what they did even when angry ..they did in love


sorry to have to tell you folks things that don't tickle your ears
I don't want to know whatever Jesus you think you believe in...sounds more like Herod the Great to me

you really have a burr in your saddle

you really do...and it has nothing to do with anyone here

I hope the rest of you folks here understand that whatever this is all about...cause it's not about us agreeing with homosexuality because we all know we do not agree with that....it's not really about this man's hatred of sin...he is struggling with something else

nothing kind seems to come out of your mouth...you have an attitude of retribution and believe that Jesus would like you to whip us into shape

if anyone was ever talking to themself, it's you.....the rest of us are trying to get through to you because, apparently, the Holy Spirit has been blocked out of your spirit by your hatred and desire to somehow punish folks in God's name

you are just having a little fit all by yourself and the rest of us are just trying to help you stop

you need some mercy...you seriously do
 
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Again we see these traits in Jesus and Paul..but we also see Jesus use a whip on people and rebuke folks...as did Paul..even blinding one man and giving very harsh warnings to people who did not keep the holiness God demanded ...which is the very issue of this thread ...you cant just see the parts of scripture you want to see ...you can just claim mercy and forget judgment and godliness.
If you insist on reading the use of the word, "all", in this manner.... then where the Bible says He will pour out His Spirit on ALL people in the last days, you are saying that means devout sinners and Atheists have received the same Spirit poured out on them as you have poured out on you... and in the same way and amount.

You can't just keep on playing games with God's word without catching yourself in the same net you attempt to throw over others.
 
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I don't want to know whatever Jesus you think you believe in...sounds more like Herod the Great to me

you really have a burr in your saddle

you really do...and it has nothing to do with anyone here

I hope the rest of you folks here understand that whatever this is all about...cause it's not about us agreeing with homosexuality because we all know we do not agree with that....it's not really about this man's hatred of sin...he is struggling with something else

nothing kind seems to come out of your mouth...you have an attitude of retribution and believe that Jesus would like you to whip us into shape

if anyone was ever talking to themself, it's you.....the rest of us are trying to get through to you because, apparently, the Holy Spirit has been blocked out of your spirit by your hatred and desire to somehow punish folks in God's name

you are just having a little fit all by yourself and the rest of us are just trying to help you stop

you need some mercy...you seriously do
I need mercy so you insult and ridicule me ..while giving me a lecture about how I need to just stop upholding biblical truth....thanks ..but I don't need your kind of mercy
 
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If you insist on reading the use of the word, "all", in this manner.... then where the Bible says He will pour out His Spirit on ALL people in the last days, you are saying that means devout sinners and Atheists have received the same Spirit poured out on them as you have poured out on you... and in the same way and amount.

You can't just keep on playing games with God's word without catching yourself in the same net you attempt to throw over others.
:confused: the word "all" was not even in the post you quoted?
 
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I need mercy so you insult and ridicule me ..while giving me a lecture about how I need to just stop upholding biblical truth....thanks ..but I don't need your kind of mercy

I don't have the kind of mercy you need bro...only Christ has that...and I need it as much as you do

you are not upholding biblical truth whatsoever...not at all

you are seriously off the path and in darkness with your attitude to other and fellow believers in Christ

this, is not good...you should stop

God will often speak through others when we refuse to hear Him first hand...I suspect He has already tapped you on the shoulder
 
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Mitspa, I had a lot of respect for you but then you became KJV-only and I lost some of it. I don't know what to think anymore. You are a nice guy who is passionate about things. But as I was saying, some will come to Christ the John the Baptist way, some will come to Christ the fire and brimstone way, some will come to Christ through using the Ten Commandments to show they are a sinner and need a Savior, etc. I love you, Mitspa even though I cannot see eye to eye with you on this, though you are correct the homosexual (''gay'') agenda is definitely wrong. I still recommend you check out Rosaria Butterfield's testimony it is on Family Research Council, Ligonier Ministries, and possibly some others as well. Thanks. God bless.
 
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I do believe he would enjoy it...not the prison part

cause that is actually what he's doing here...only he's using his tongue for the lashing
So you dont see that tongue lashing coming from others too?
 
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Mitspa, I had a lot of respect for you but then you became KJV-only and I lost some of it. I don't know what to think anymore. You are a nice guy who is passionate about things. But as I was saying, some will come to Christ the John the Baptist way, some will come to Christ the fire and brimstone way, some will come to Christ through using the Ten Commandments to show they are a sinner and need a Savior, etc. I love you, Mitspa even though I cannot see eye to eye with you on this, though you are correct the homosexual (''gay'') agenda is definitely wrong. I still recommend you check out Rosaria Butterfield's testimony it is on Family Research Council, Ligonier Ministries, and possibly some others as well. Thanks. God bless.
Where did you get the KJV only idea? The KJV only folks hate me ...because I depend on the Greek that I spent many years to learn to read and write
 
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