Can atheists prove that atheism is based on facts and not fantasy?

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megaman125

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How do you know they're false gods?
Because Jesus Christ is the one with the power. It was by His name alone that I had an evil spirit cast out of me and had my life transformed. Perhaps you should try it, that is, if you're not intimidated to ask Christians to lay hands on your shoulders and pray to cast evil spirits out in the name of Jesus Christ.
 
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Because Jesus Christ is the one with the power. It was by His name alone that I had an evil spirit cast out of me and had my life transformed. Perhaps you should try it, that is, if you're not intimidated to ask Christians to lay hands on your shoulders and pray to cast evil spirits out in the name of Jesus Christ.
How does that prove the other gods are false? Couldn't they all be real and have power as well?
 
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First of all atheism is not a religion. Let's clear that up right now. These videos should be enough to
put that argument to rest.

[video=youtube;200qAsgpfwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=200qAsgpfwU[/video]

You could probably clear up a lot of your misconceptions from watching The
Atheist Experience. Maybe even try calling them and ask a few questions?
 
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megaman125

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Here's something you might understand.

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So you think it happened all on it's own by random chance. There you have it Danschance, what you were asking for. Now, I know the next thing you want to ask about is what facts atheists have to back up that view, but I'm warning you, don't ask. They won't give you any.

How does that prove the other gods are false? Couldn't they all be real and have power as well?
Hey look, another example of this, with extra emphasis on the unresearched part:

Seriously, I think the best thing atheists can do is just say "I don't believe in God" and leave it at that, because whenever they go further than that they just open their mouths and look like an unresearched fool.
 
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[video=youtube;wtO1e9breLs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtO1e9breLs[/video]

Here's another explanation of why atheism is not a religion.
 
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So you think it happened all on it's own by random chance. There you have it Danschance, what you were asking for. Now, I know the next thing you want to ask about is what facts atheists have to back up that view, but I'm warning you, don't ask. They won't give you any.

Hey look, another example of this, with extra emphasis on the unresearched part:
You still have failed to falsify any of the other gods. Why the dodge?
 
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Because Jesus Christ is the one with the power. It was by His name alone that I had an evil spirit cast out of me and had my life transformed. Perhaps you should try it, that is, if you're not intimidated to ask Christians to lay hands on your shoulders and pray to cast evil spirits out in the name of Jesus Christ.
I don't think I have any evil spirits inside of me. How would I determine that?
 
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megaman125

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You still have failed to falsify any of the other gods. Why the dodge?
I'm not dodging, but apparently you're not getting the hint. I'll put it bluntly, do some research yourself.

But from there you will seek the Lord your God and you will find him, if you search after him with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deuteronomy 4:29

I don't think I have any evil spirits inside of me. How would I determine that?
Well, from what I've observed of you, you fit the biblical description of a demon possessed person. I never thought I had an evil spirit inside me either until after it was cast out. Again, perhaps you should try it, that is, if you're not intimidated to ask Christians to lay hands on your shoulders and pray to cast evil spirits out in the name of Jesus Christ.
 
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Well, from what I've observed of you, you fit the biblical description of a demon possessed person. I never thought I had an evil spirit inside me either until after it was cast out. Again, perhaps you should try it, that is, if you're not intimidated to ask Christians to lay hands on your shoulders and pray to cast evil spirits out in the name of Jesus Christ.
Have evil spirits ever been determined to actually exist? Reason tells me that it's something that's just made up.
Sorry, I don't believe in ghosts. If you have sufficient evidence to provide that proves evil spirits or any spriit
actually exist I'm all ears but until then I must reject the claim.
 
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megaman125

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Have evil spirits ever been determined to actually exist? Reason tells me that it's something that's just made up.
Sorry, I don't believe in ghosts. If you have sufficient evidence to provide that proves evil spirits or any spriit
actually exist I'm all ears but until then I must reject the claim.
I didn't ask you to believe in anything. I asked you to go out and do you. You want your evidence? Go out and get it. If you're too intimidated to ask a Christian or two to lay hands on you and pray to have evil spirits cast out in the name of Jesus Christ, just say so.
 
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I didn't ask you to believe in anything. I asked you to go out and do you. You want your evidence? Go out and get it. If you're too intimidated to ask a Christian or two to lay hands on you and pray to have evil spirits cast out in the name of Jesus Christ, just say so.
I have no problem having someone lay hands on me but first it must be determined, instead of assumed,
that I actually have evil spirits dwelling inside of me. This probably isn't the case because from all the knowledge
and common sense I've acquired it's reasonable to count "spirits" out until there is actual evidence for them.

If you were lethally sick would you have faith that Christians putting their hands on you and praying would heal
you or would you go to a doctor?
 
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jkalyna

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I assume you're all atheists in regards to Zeus, Thor, Baal, and the thousands
of other gods throughout history. Some people just go one more god further.
Don't spread your theology of Athesism here you will get banned, no one wants to hear anything like what your posting.
 
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I'd like to chime in here.

Atheism is the absense of religion, basically the absense of faith. It's taking the default position in a claim saying that we are not convinced that x is true, so i will reject it UNTIL there is is sufficient evidence for it. Therefore, atheism is not a religion, it's the "not guilty" verdict.

Now as for "ALL ATHEISTS BELIEVE EVERYTHING CAME FROM NOTHING DERRPPPP", that's not true. Atheism has nothing to do with the origins of the universe or the origins of life, it simply is the absense of the belief in god: thats it. I don't know why people assosiate atheism and science.

But i'll play the game thats happening here. I'll admit i dont know if anything came from nothing: it could very well be that something has always existed for eternity. However, now that i agree for the sake of arguement that something cannot come from nothing, how does that prove a god? It's the arguement from ignorance saying: i can't think of any other way of this happening, therefore god. It's more ridiculous to go to magic then to "something for nothing". So please lets not bring that up again ok kiddies?

To be intellectually honest with yourself is to look at what you velieve in and ask "could this be for another reason?". "Is god even required for their to be a universe?". There very well is a good explanation of how the universe and life originated, so now there isn't a "must be a god anymore". Back then, people equated everything they didn't know about to god, known as the god of the gaps arguement, and slowly shyed away from that as we investigated things. So now, it's even more important that we investigate "is there truly a god?" And a better question "is it the christian god?".

Im happy to have a nice convo about this with anyone
 

Mo0448

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First of all atheism is not a religion. Let's clear that up right now. These videos should be enough to
put that argument to rest.
Atheism may not be a religion but its a belief nonetheless. A lack of belief or a belief in "nothing" is still a belief, and while many atheists love to claim that Christians are "forcing" our religion down their throats. Why is it that a Christian has no right to claim that an Atheist is cramming their lack of belief which is a belief all in itself down my throat....HMMM double standard? Intolerant tolerance perhaps?? I wonder....:rolleyes:
 
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danschance

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Here's something you might understand.

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I think the first line might be missing an "S". Nice pic tho'

Just curious as to why you seem to post on all sorts of topics except the one I asked about in this thread.

I am still holding onto hope.
 
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Atheism may not be a religion but its a belief nonetheless. A lack of belief or a belief in "nothing" is still a belief, and while many atheists love to claim that Christians are "forcing" our religion down their throats. Why is it that a Christian has no right to claim that an Atheist is cramming their lack of belief which is a belief all in itself down my throat....HMMM double standard? Intolerant tolerance perhaps?? I wonder....:rolleyes:
Iso i basically have an infinite beliefs in things i disbelieve in? Fairies, loch ness, mickey mouse, etc?
 
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danschance

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Atheism may not be a religion but its a belief nonetheless. A lack of belief or a belief in "nothing" is still a belief, and while many atheists love to claim that Christians are "forcing" our religion down their throats. Why is it that a Christian has no right to claim that an Atheist is cramming their lack of belief which is a belief all in itself down my throat....HMMM double standard? Intolerant tolerance perhaps?? I wonder....:rolleyes:
Yes, they do have beliefs but so far they don't seem too willing to discuss them.

Ya know, Logical is somewhat emotional and gets easily offended. I am a bit worried the "HMMM double standard? Intolerant tolerance perhaps?? I wonder....:rolleyes: " part of your post might offend him.
 
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Don't spread your theology of Athesism here you will get banned, no one wants to hear anything like what your posting.
What? I'm the only one addressing what the title of the thread is about! You said "theology of atheism."
I'll say it one more time - there is no such thing as theology of atheism. Ok, atheism is not a religion.
The topic was brought up and I'm responding. Sorry you don't understand that. Maybe, the bible discussion
forum is more up your alley?