Does it Bother Anyone that Christians and Muslims Fight for the Same God?

You sound awfully Muslim for an atheist.

Christians worship Jesus as God. Do muslims worship Jesus as God? Didn't think so. Conclusion: Christians and Muslims don't worship the same God.

/topic

Yeah, I am pretty close to being Muslim. I am memorizing the Qur'an (to become a hafiz). I pray on Friday's when I can.

Scootaloo is not impressed.

Again, God God. Yahweh/Allah. The one that wrote the Ten Commandments for Moses. The one over the rest. Has no concern for Jesus' status. Example, I watched an animated movie on Mohammed (p.b.u.h) today and about the origin of Islam; in it, the new Muslim people were being harrassed by the people in Mecca and so a party of them ran away to a nearby Christian king who was known to be very kind. The leaders of Mecca came to bribe the king to hand over the Muslims back to them, saying that they will cause religious rebellion in his domain like they did in Mecca with their new religion. The king was reluctant and let the Muslims speak of their religion. One Muslim spoke that their Prophet Mohammed (p.b.u.h) told them not to steal, not to lie, help their parents, give to the poor, take care of the Earth and their bodies; the king remarked to the Meccan leader that they were speaking of the Gospel of Christ. The Meccan leader replied that they don't believe Jesus was the Son of God. The Muslim said that they only follow what their Prophet (p.b.u.h) spoke to them. The king thought on this and said, ["Our two beliefs are like those two pillars of light - separate - but coming from the same source. God."] And he did not turn the Muslims over to the Meccan leaders.
I hope this is enough.

1. I had a problem with this before. The translation of the word 'Allah' to 'God' was not meant to be an argument, but a pre-emptive counter argument to those who would say "But if Allah is God, then why is he called 'Allah'?"
2. I have gone to a mosque and I have talked with the Imam (nice guy) and he says that Allah was God of the Chosen Jewish people, just like the Christian God was God of the Jewish people/people of Israel.
3. Muslims do not believe Jesus is God, nor the Son of God. Anything put up next to Allah would be polytheism which Islam absolutely rejects. But the argument that Allah and Christian God are one does not concern Jesus, please see my text in response to someone else on this thread about the animated movie I saw today on the origins of Islam in that a Christian king, when hearing the case of the Muslims before deciding to hand them over to the Meccan leaders for money or not, remarked that their two religions are like the two pillars of light in his throne room, separate, but coming from the same source (God). The arguments on Jesus' status concerns the argument of what Jesus' status was, not the One over the rest.
I hope this is enough.
*The animated movie is free on YouTube.

Didymos, but if I was to push a religion, it would be Islam (because it is the more interesting to me and, in my opinion, the better nature (do not use the current violence in the Middle East as a counter argument, please; that violence is caused by lack of being a First-World state), America (and Europe) was like that as Christianity before the invention of the modern civilization)).

Goodness for an 18 year old young man? YOU SURELY HAVE BEEN BUSY!

B.T.W. You DO have a ........ .......... license?

They don't. YHVH/God "IS" God, and He's real. allalala is a figment of "man's" wicked imagination, originates in the "pit", and leads to hell... \o/

Most Muslims and Christians don't fight. Plenty of people who call themselves Muslims and Christians fight, but these people are usually something else entirely. At this moment in time, most Muslims and Christians are:

- asleep
- in the shower
- making breakfast
- eating breakfast
- praying
- scrubbing last night's leftovers off the dog (sigh)
...

You get the point. Pretending everybody's at war does nobody any good. Sure, there are some places with sectarian violence, but most of us are more worried about our daily lives than trying to end the life of someone else. This includes Muslims - most of them are worried about the same things we are worried about.

All this is just word salad. You are unable to state that Muslims worship Jesus as God, becuase you know such a thing is not factual. Therefore, I do not worship the same deity the Muslims do. All your nonsensical argument can ever do is throw around translations for a generic 3 letter god word, which in the end, we all know it has no substance. Your arguments (I mean nonsense) has no solid basis on which to stand.

Maybe they work together in evil.


I think they maybe both lied in a way that favours them and they hid important truths from the time and when ever they were almost exposed they showed wrong people.

I wondered a long time why both parties of religion were so bad to me and spread lies etc and shadow and isolate me and steal from me.
It because they worked together.


Attatching device in burka to steal someones rays and colours and surgery of time etc then give this to christians who say "holy spirit gave it to me" and saying some one elses cat is theres etc.

Two woman admited yesterday they had surgery of genitals so they steal another womans time.
Then they even prostituted on someone elses name and time and went to church every sunday being prostitutes make money working someone elses time.
50 medium (not professionals though thats why they needed someone else do work for them...) shadow one who does the work who works over 50 actrs and all the names they use.... tired exhausted day and night ....



The muslims might cover up someone who threat to them against her will.
Christians say yes as they jealous and been stealing from that person.


A catholic schoolteacher spread lies to children and community someone is homosexual and muslim and etc and they forsed cover by shadowing this person.

Actually the christian people i met are and have been incredibly evil people.
Most praticed black magic, were jealous, had plastic surgery and were thief's and liers who lied in church and the more perfect "directors cut" they made to look and feel the more evil they were.


The muslims seemed be "in on it" also.
High l;evels of organised crime.


Out of so many politicians one good american man exposed other politicians and wellknown names and some others of crime , theft and organised crime, homosexuality and torture and these are people who always make themself look and seem good.
One really working is shadowed body corp and not assess money or time .
He was put in hospital when a group of woman and men commited crime to a woman and he stood up for her.
Out of hundreds he only one stand for her because every one else been paid off in this area and every where went they followed and monitored, controlled and shadowed.
Every one paid so much money.


One judge was paid over 500 million to let a famous woman be not guilty in court despite she was guilty in every way shape and form no denying evidence said without shadow doubt guilty.
Retrial new judge.
Buuut everyone gets paid of or threatened and ones brave enough stand up get put in mental hospitals or excluded and threatened etc



I visited a christian people other day and saw nothing christian about them.
I saw people who perform voodoo and wikka and hise in church so they get more power they miss use.
Wellknown people.
They lie to the children and incite hate and .....steal someones ray and time and shadow and isolate them and they work literally day and night and not get paid even.


It is same God they say but muslims beleive jesus is not son of god and he did not die.


I was more shia muslim but not accepting be shadow or burka or slave.


I tried christianity but the people were so fake and evil I could not leave fast enough.


Muslims were awful to me also except for one (mohammed) and that was "in spirit" .he said his people be good to me and said our people and that i not have to wear burka or be shadow.


But:no.

Any one ask me my religion now I say I am spiritual but I beleive in God.
I ebelive in jesus but not the way christians or muslims do.
I beleive woman were involved and crucified and tortured and things happened that were covered up by the people in time who jealous of (bit like dan brown theory but much deeper and in that one thay swaped sons etc) .


Some say christianity is a organised crime and the whole concept of it is organised crime and nastiness.


And let me just say: was not middle or same and nothing middle about it and "body corp" at such evil and such lies.


Pray my people come to me soon.
A better people.
I write here cause im lonely and to "vent" but i am not christian nor muslim.


Praise this brave politician.
I shall not write his name but he knows the crime they did and "directors cut" made look like....
He was very brave and good to testify.


God bless you sir.
God bless you.

For i do beleive in God.
Just not like these religions.

They swapped sons all time and if a woman found shadowed holocast then they knew they had confess they chose "yes yes here she is" shadowed real one and showed the friend they have instead so they keep lieing and stealing......



Anyway.
Both are rather horrid to me.

And what hiding under burka?

Cause I was forsed be shadow and still they shadow me and isolate and thats against rights emotional abuse etc. and theft not assessed finances and a famous man whos daughters had surgery they stole my real estate and lied in church.

Anyway, same God different view of jesus.

I more muslim than christian buuut without the covering and there is many bad muslims also performing much evil.
Although if it is ones choice to cover and it for good cause so assess peace and ones money (lol the jealous horrid ones say if you cover maybe you get assess whats yours but we to jealous and hate you so we never want see you) lol
Such as evil man think 2 wives but does not cut middle..... so to say.Crucifies a woman and she survives and suffers and shadows her and has like less 10% body live in rest is ........
Another takes over her name (identity theft) has surgery of time and magnets(energy)...


But there has been people pretend be muslim and pretend be christians.
"Get close to enemy" by getting inside......



I will personally not practice religion at all.

Pray for better people come

No surprise. Muhammad copied stuff from the bible. Or as he called it 'the book.'

Muhammad plagiarized the bible, studied early Aramaic writings and threw in some of his own twisted, vile ideas. Voila! - the Quran and his other writings!