electric cars

Isn't an 'open' fire considered to be something like a camp fire? Or perhaps, at most, that a barrel fire might be included under that definition? Wouldn't a fireplace/chimney be considered to have 'containment'? (which would not be 'open')

I watch Back to the Future movie last night

welle the Delorean was an electric car...at least, it needed quite a LOT of electricity to go back and forwards in time lol


lightning bolt etc.
When they came back from the future to 1985, the car was using garbage and soda as fuel! haha

Thomas Edison probably would have thought of a solution to the electric cars had he been living now
since Edison was the one who came up with the whole electric grid thing

Actually...
Thomas Edison stole most of his inventions from other inventors. Then used his influence with Rich people to keep it hushed.
He wasn't brilliant...he was politically connected. Tesla offered to wire up Menlo Park for half the money Edison did...but it didn't matter because Edison had political clout and Tesla did not.

That's the truth about Edison...
He was a money grubbing thief.

What do you think of electric cars? If youve got one, would you recommend them? Any particular make?
How does it compare to a petrol/gas run car? Is it cost effective?

Anything to be aware of?

but how long do the batteries last is the question, how much mileage can a car do? Before it needs repairing or replacing. I dont think people know yet.

"Keep choking"?? I'm not choking at all. There's no acid rain or smoggy air in my area of the world. Oregon coast is actually pretty nice.
Now China, on the other hand, is pretty bad off. If anything we should be going after them for destroying their air quality.
Though, by your argument I guess I shouldn't care about China's air quality because, you know, I don't live there.

I don't really see it as a financial savings. They are very expensive to buy, the batteries to be replaced can cost 3500-10000. But that is my take on them.

The biggest problem with electric cars is being able to buy one. The demand is far greater than supply at present. They are expensive to purchase compared to an equivalent petrol powered car. If you drive short distances, the cost savings may not cover the higher price. However, the servicing costs are far less. There is much less wear and tear. Resale values are surprisingly good.

The weak link is the battery. However, technology is improving all the time and battery costs reducing continually. Market leader in most places is Tesla.

Battery charging is pretty easy, unless you live in an apartment. Tesla has the best range of public chargers. Most people come home, plug in the car and charge overnight. There are different types of batteries. It's well worth doing some research. Ryan Shaw youtube is helpful. If you are a real engineering geek, Sandy Munroe is your man.

maybe in US they are not a great option, but in other countries that dont rely on coal and nuclear power they could be very efficient

It seems Tesla is a US company though...not sure what other ones are out there

very much in its infancy here in nz and not many early adopters though

electric lawnmowers or robomowers are interesting though! I like that there is less noise, gas power mowers are incredibly noisy. Plus if doing a huge lawns or sports fields, you need safe place to store all the gas.

i supoose you have to take the bad with the good and weigh up the options
electric trams and trains require rails of course, but you are not going to get rails reaching everywhere roads can

I keep wondering about maglev though or magnetic power, you just program where you want to go and it drives you there, Maye the roads need to be magnetic? Or there need to be markers or some signalling point that can pull you along a designated route. OR if the roads themselves are electrified, somehow in the tar seal, and you have a special wheel that as it comes into contact with the road, can self propel, even along the flats and up hills.

its whether you want to breathe carbon monoxide fumes on every road in every city, OR have clean air and energy where you live. You can plant more trees, and have more greenery, but it seems people just dont want to do that. for some strange reason.

I think people tend to lack imagination over solutions and seem to think theres only one way to do things. need to think outside the box.

i used to take lithium, I can tell you its not that great for the human body but it calms people down.
apprently comes from Peru. But surely there are other minerals that can be used to make batteries.

magnesium, salt etc

Actually Tesla trucks are around $40K which is considerably cheaper than most other new trucks and can go 500 miles between charges.

Don't take too much notice of Tesla truck pricing. I doubt that they will be available for anything near that price, at least in the near term. Tesla prices have gone through the roof. They cannot meet the demand as it is.

I'll be a believer when I see them on the car lots and not a moment before.

Currently I am wondering what will become of the gasoline that comes off the oil when they refine it for the millions of other products we make out of petroleum. We still need the other products...maybe not the gasoline if EV tech gets developed enough. But the other products like rubber and plastics and lubricants and vitamins and fertilizers and paint and....and

Thomas Edison probably would have thought of a solution to the electric cars had he been living now
since Edison was the one who came up with the whole electric grid thing

when lightbulbs were first invented, people were reluctant to use them and preferred candles and gas lamps.

But with his bunch of inventors in Menlo Park, he devised a grid system that lighted up every home.

So, it might conceivably only happen in a newly built area designed sprecifically for electric cars, if everyone has one, than trying to retrofit areas that are still using other modes. Most suburbia is designed around the motor car. That is the reason there are motorways and suburbs in the first place.

I guess ppl didnt see forsee the problem in how big an urban sprawl can be and how congested cities can get especially those areas which were built before the advent of the car.