Question Been thinking about this a bit,How is it that if one throws a ball it goes straight,but if the earth is rotating underneath a ball that is thrown,shouldn't the ball drift to the west? I mean it's not next to the moving earth,it's in the air which is not as dense at the ground,so shouldn't it's trajectory appear to change in relation to us?
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gravity works on the ball too....
if you throw the ball across the car what happens?
people used to believe in a flat Earth but with airplanes that has pretty much been disproven because pilots have to calculate for the curvature of the Earth in their flight plans or end up somewhere they didn't plan to go.
if you throw the ball across the car what happens?
people used to believe in a flat Earth but with airplanes that has pretty much been disproven because pilots have to calculate for the curvature of the Earth in their flight plans or end up somewhere they didn't plan to go.
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UMM I think i need to rephrase the question. Throw a ball straight up into the air and you have enough energy to overcome gravity for a short time,in that time frame shouldn't the ball drift on it's way to the top,and at the top of throw before gravity overcomes the inertia of the ball? I'm just curious as I have never thought about this before. It just seems like it's anomaly.
I don't believe in a flat earth.
I don't believe in a flat earth.
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the ball is too small to really be affected and doesn't travel far enough or high enough to make a difference. you would have to get it as high as the clouds and allow it to travel longer for you to see the effects upon a ball, but if you launch a missile you would have to calculate this factor in.
but the spinning of the Earth is supported by the concept of the Corilios Effect and shown in the formation of hurricanes and the movement of global air currents.
Coriolis Force - YouTube
[video=youtube;aeY9tY9vKgs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeY9tY9vKgs[/video]
but the spinning of the Earth is supported by the concept of the Corilios Effect and shown in the formation of hurricanes and the movement of global air currents.
Coriolis Force - YouTube
[video=youtube;aeY9tY9vKgs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeY9tY9vKgs[/video]
So how does it work on airplanes? Airplanes will fly above the clouds,with enough force to counteract the gravity otherwise the plane would crash. So shouldn't the airplane on an east to west trip be shorter time wise then the west to east trip? And shouldn't the plane also have to overcome the rotation speed of the earth and then fly that much faster on a west to east trip,otherwise shouldn't the plane to our eyes appear to be flying backwards? (Don't know it just appears to be an anomaly)
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I found this answer online (taking the lazy way by not typing it myself, lol)
Curious About Astronomy: Why can't a plane fly slowly and let the Earth pass underneath?
Curious About Astronomy: Why can't a plane fly slowly and let the Earth pass underneath?
This same force would occur if the Earth were still and everything was rotating around it. Right?
What gets me is a glass of water. If we were rotating and spinning around stuff and supposedly accelerating at the same speed as the rest of the Universe why can't we see it in a glass of water?
If you accelerate, even a little bit, you will see it in a level or a glass of water. There is absolutely no apparent movement.
What gets me is a glass of water. If we were rotating and spinning around stuff and supposedly accelerating at the same speed as the rest of the Universe why can't we see it in a glass of water?
If you accelerate, even a little bit, you will see it in a level or a glass of water. There is absolutely no apparent movement.
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no, but you'll have to give me a little time to find an experiment or model to show you why not. I"m leaving town to go visit my mom today and need to pack.
because the glass of water is accelerating too. its like when both you and the water is in the car. you don't see the water move but both you and the water are moving from one location to another with the same speed and direction while in the car.
mmm try the experiment of taking a glass of water with you in a car.
do you move?
Does the cup of water move?
Does it appear while you are in the car that the water is moving?
because the glass of water is accelerating too. its like when both you and the water is in the car. you don't see the water move but both you and the water are moving from one location to another with the same speed and direction while in the car.
mmm try the experiment of taking a glass of water with you in a car.
do you move?
Does the cup of water move?
Does it appear while you are in the car that the water is moving?
If you are in the car and accelerating you will see that the water in the glass does not stay level. It is only level when acceleration is zero. (Take the glass of water and start moving it, you will see what I mean).
Velocity can be 60 mph and both you and the water are moving but the water in the glass is level if you are not speeding up or slowing down.
I may not be explaining this well. It is the difference between velocity (movement) and acceleration (speeding up/slowing down).
Velocity can be 60 mph and both you and the water are moving but the water in the glass is level if you are not speeding up or slowing down.
I may not be explaining this well. It is the difference between velocity (movement) and acceleration (speeding up/slowing down).
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systems. The work is performed in the Neo-Tychonian system, with key assumption
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Luka Popov
University of Zagreb, Department of Physics, Bijeniˇcka cesta 32, Zagreb, Croatia
E-mail: [email protected]
Abstract. Using Mach’s principle, we will show that the observed diurnal and annual
motion of the Earth can just as well be accounted as the diurnal rotation and annual
revolution of the Universe around the fixed and centered Earth. This can be performed
by postulating the existence of vector and scalar potentials caused by the simultaneous
motion of the masses in the Universe, including the distant stars.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.7290v1.pdf
Stellar parallax in the Neo-Tychonian planetary system
Luka Popov
University of Zagreb, Department of Physics, Bijeniˇcka cesta 32, Zagreb, Croatia
E-mail: [email protected]
Abstract. The recent paper published in European Journal of Physics [1] aimed to
demonstrate the kinematical and dynamical equivalence of heliocentric and geocentric
systems. The work is performed in the Neo-Tychonian system, with key assumption
that orbits of distant masses around the Earth are synchronized with the Sun’s orbit.
Motion of Sun and Mars have been analysed, and the conclusion was reached that the
very fact of the accelerated motion of the Universe as a whole produces the so-called
“pseudo-potential” that not only explains the origin of the pseudo-forces, but also the
very motion of the celestial bodies as seen from the static Earth. After the paper was
published, the question was raised if that same potential can explain the motion of the
distant stars that are not affected by the Sun’s gravity (unlike Mars), and if it can be
used to reproduce the observation of the stellar parallax. The answer is found to be
positive
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1302.7129.pdf