How non believers may view Christian's.

I never realized that I use that word that many times, I would agree it's most likely that I use the word multiple ttimes in one post. In no way am I supporting Roman Catholicism. I bring them up mainly because that word ties to the creed. Also because they were the first christian institution and have some old practices and concepts I believe are essential for ones faith that were lost in protestantism. I understand that you're upset with me and I'm probably your enemy. So really I'm surprised you didn't find worse stuff than that.I have much worse stuff out there. I'll be the first to admit it.

I would never use the Nicene creed, or any creed, as a test of fellowship. Just because someone can repeat something it doesn't mean they have the Holy Spirit or the fruit of the Spirit. Seems like a pretty shallow way to determine if someone is a brother; and it also makes it easy for someone to think they're in right standing with the Lord when in fact all they have is a piece of paper with words on it.

Well, if you're a trinitarian Christian, then you do accept and believe and follow the nicene creed, that's the whole point I'm making, that we're all unified through the creed, actually, most of your churches will tell you which creed they follow if you look into it. They will also tell you who they're affiliated with. They may even have a confession of faith. People don't do research on their churches. Most people don't understand where the core beliefs of trinitarian christianity comes from , i'm pointing you to it. Now you have non trinitarian Christians and you have Christians that are considered to not follow the core principles of the creed.And in that case they would not be considered as a trinitarian christian. The creed was established to unify all christians in one faith. So yes your required to belive in the creed to become part of the family. You go to any trinitarian Christian church and point out any part of the creed and say you don't believe it.You will not be supported by the pastor and the institution.

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Also , not just some paper with words on it. Its a historical document that established the faith through a council which was a historical event.

Lastly I would like to point out that there's a lot of people that claim to have encounters with the Holy Spirit and will put on a display of the work of the Holy Spirit and it's not actually the Holy Spirit. we are instructed in 1 John to test the Spirits. Thats another thing that's not really practiced in the faith today, people don't test things. They just go along with the institution and what's popular. No wonder why it's becoming more and more worldly and we have more and more issues, no wonder why we're probably gonna lose another half of the christian population within the next twenty to thirty years.

That's fine Nufan, do what you gotta do. Count me out.

Ok, good luck.

Just so you know the only churches that dont accept the Nicene creed in its entirety who call themselves ch Just so you know the only churches that dont accept the Nicene creed in its entirety who call themselves Christians are the Church of the New Jerusalem, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Jehovah's Witnesses. Other options are those who deny the vergin birth, who dont believe in a triune god head or those who deny jesus as god. Take that for what you will. Wish you well and good luck.