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^Probably not a good source crossnote as Bette Midler chose to launch her career in homosexual NYC bathhouses for the entertainment of wealthy homosexuals (often in nothing but a towel) who paid her handsomely instead of a moral venue. This is how she earned her nickname "Bathhouse Betty."
"Despite the way things turned out [with the AIDS crisis], I'm still proud of those days [when I got my start singing at the gay bathhouses]. I feel like I was at the forefront of the gay liberation movement, and I hope I did my part to help it move forward. So, I kind of wear the label of 'Bathhouse Betty' with pride. —Bette Midler, Houston Voice
She was big on pushing the homosexual agenda against Christians and nuclear moral families. She's probably ecstatic now that in states like California, boys can declare themselves girls in middle school and start receiving shots for the sex change operation while using girl's bathrooms as they are indoctrinated, mandatory by state law, with the homosexual agenda in the failing liberal controlled public school system.
Sad but true. A lot of young lives are going to be seriously maligned from all this and these people are going to have to give an account to God for their part in it.
"Despite the way things turned out [with the AIDS crisis], I'm still proud of those days [when I got my start singing at the gay bathhouses]. I feel like I was at the forefront of the gay liberation movement, and I hope I did my part to help it move forward. So, I kind of wear the label of 'Bathhouse Betty' with pride. —Bette Midler, Houston Voice
She was big on pushing the homosexual agenda against Christians and nuclear moral families. She's probably ecstatic now that in states like California, boys can declare themselves girls in middle school and start receiving shots for the sex change operation while using girl's bathrooms as they are indoctrinated, mandatory by state law, with the homosexual agenda in the failing liberal controlled public school system.
Sad but true. A lot of young lives are going to be seriously maligned from all this and these people are going to have to give an account to God for their part in it.
Fair enough........and I tell you what........IF it comes to pass that you are a sincere member here on CC, and you are simply going through a rough patch in your life..............I will HUMBLY apologize to you for being a bit rough on you.........
But, you should understand that there have been several folks who have come here to CC with such comments......ideas.....and the good people here on CC open their arms to them, and pour out Christian love and encouragement upon them..............ONLY to find out after a few days that it was all a scam......
Not sure how many times one can get burned before they become a wee bit cautious in opening wide the Christian arms of love and encouragement.............Others can do it far more times than I can...........but, then, I'm an old soldier, and my years of Military Service did program me to be wary.............
Anyway, time will tell...........
But, you should understand that there have been several folks who have come here to CC with such comments......ideas.....and the good people here on CC open their arms to them, and pour out Christian love and encouragement upon them..............ONLY to find out after a few days that it was all a scam......
Not sure how many times one can get burned before they become a wee bit cautious in opening wide the Christian arms of love and encouragement.............Others can do it far more times than I can...........but, then, I'm an old soldier, and my years of Military Service did program me to be wary.............
Anyway, time will tell...........
J
I've realized it later on that it was a waste of time. I've tried ignoring it, but obviously there's more posts. Why must I really prove anything to anyone? If they think that I am using multiple accounts then let them think that. No need to act like some detective. Plus it makes me realize who actually would believe me and respond at their own will anyway. For it being a Christian site, I didn't think I would have people trying to put others against the wall for this.
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And you know what, if it makes any of you happy. I won't even return to this even if I'm given any further questions. I don't know why I really need to explain myself like that towards anyone. Yeah, maybe it was a bad idea to post something like this. At the time where I needed to let off steam, I didn't have best judgment. I still likely don't. So like I said, think what you want of me. At the end of the day it shouldn't make me lose sleep at night. I'm just a bit annoyed at how others would literally try questioning like this or make accusations as if it's really going to make any difference. So I'll be the first one to move on from this subject. Good day everyone.
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If you are innocent what does it matter what is said. I do not think you are being put against a wall but being tested to see what you are really here for. You are so young to feel so strongly about such matters. You will be tested all your life until you leave this world. It is not something to fear. Many come here to start trouble or gain attention....it is very common and very annoying. I have spent too much time speaking to someone who isn't here for the right reasons.....that is probably the reason for the reaction you received. There are trolls among us as I have found out. I am not so good at spotting them but getting better. Are we not to test the spirits? You do not seem trollish but I am no good at seeing them at first.
We have all made poor decisions with judgment and will make more as we go along. I do not think that is your biggest issue....only you can say for sure what that is. If moving on is your desire you are free to do so....don't you think there is a better way of handling this that would be better for you in the long run? There are many ways to go about getting your point across. There are many here that can give you advice or suggestion. Give them a chance or not....it is up to you.
We have all made poor decisions with judgment and will make more as we go along. I do not think that is your biggest issue....only you can say for sure what that is. If moving on is your desire you are free to do so....don't you think there is a better way of handling this that would be better for you in the long run? There are many ways to go about getting your point across. There are many here that can give you advice or suggestion. Give them a chance or not....it is up to you.
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Who said that I never gave them a chance? I've actually talked to some through private messaging because I gave them a chance to say further on what was said. Not that it can really count unless I give proof on that too, I'm guessing. As stated, it's a public forum. People are able to say what they want. I accepted that and wanted to move on from it if I didn't agree with someone. Without even getting into any emotional crap, I have to ask you this. Even if you think that I am a troll and using multiple accounts, what good is it honestly doing by pointing the said suspicion and keep questioning on it? What good is it to question on every move or posts people make to find it out? From what I understand, the site goes by IP addresses to know if each person has one account. Tell me if I'm wrong on that, but I've seen it somewhere. Wouldn't you think I would be banned by now if this were to be the case and it's found out that I was using more than one account? If you wanted me to prove anything, well, there ya go. There's nothing wrong on feeling anything when said things are made, which I'm pretty sure you would feel too if you were in the same position.
Either way, it doesn't even matter to me now. I have greater things I need to worry about. And yes, this one will be my last post... or am I going to be accused of being a liar next?
Either way, it doesn't even matter to me now. I have greater things I need to worry about. And yes, this one will be my last post... or am I going to be accused of being a liar next?
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oh yeah, as believers were not to harbor unforgiveness, but to forgive, as offenses will come, it says it is impossible that they do not, not to forgive, will be doing what the Lord said not to do, forgive, and it shall be forgiven you, and when you stand praying, forgive, and the same thing with communion, if you don't forgive your bringing damnation unto yourself, and if you don't partake it says you have no life in you, so there is no other roads to take, for our spiritual well being, and obedience unto Christ. Forgiving also sets you free.
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You are being accused of nothing. I do not think anyone has called you a liar. It is good that there were people here to speak with you privately. We all need fellowship for many things.
I do not say that I think you are a troll. I think you may be missing my point....that is not surprising as I tend to ramble at times. The point is that there are many who come here that speak very similar words to yours. It is very tiring. A leopard is known by his spots as they say.....things have to be tested. In your way you are testing yourself I think....just my sense of this one. God has given me judgement as a gift to be used in all my daily life. My judgement is exercised and tested just as yours is. When you speak in similar manner as a troll and are then tested on the matter it is not uncommon to be asked to prove yourself. That is what testing does. It proves. We are all proven by this testing through out all our lives. If you don't learn from it now you will struggle forever.
As far as private messages....I am happy for you to have that source of fellowship available to you. It is only of your public statements that I am speaking of. Will you speak of things in public as you do in private? I find it is best to do so. We are to be consistent just as the Lord is....unchanging.
If you choose to post again it may be good to meditate on your words a bit before you put them in view of the world that will be seeing them. That would be good judgement.....for me as well.
I do not say that I think you are a troll. I think you may be missing my point....that is not surprising as I tend to ramble at times. The point is that there are many who come here that speak very similar words to yours. It is very tiring. A leopard is known by his spots as they say.....things have to be tested. In your way you are testing yourself I think....just my sense of this one. God has given me judgement as a gift to be used in all my daily life. My judgement is exercised and tested just as yours is. When you speak in similar manner as a troll and are then tested on the matter it is not uncommon to be asked to prove yourself. That is what testing does. It proves. We are all proven by this testing through out all our lives. If you don't learn from it now you will struggle forever.
As far as private messages....I am happy for you to have that source of fellowship available to you. It is only of your public statements that I am speaking of. Will you speak of things in public as you do in private? I find it is best to do so. We are to be consistent just as the Lord is....unchanging.
If you choose to post again it may be good to meditate on your words a bit before you put them in view of the world that will be seeing them. That would be good judgement.....for me as well.
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I only skimmed thru this so sorry if I'm repeating or whatever...
Im glad you're through with people! It's about time you figure that out.
. Yes, it hurts... Definitely hurts but people will always always let you down... There is only one who never does and that is God. Start depending on Him instead of others and you will see how he changes things. Start letting Him care and love others through you. Stop expecting from people but expect from God.
Pray... Lord, you've place this person in my life now show me how to love them! Let me see the way you see, let me comfort the way you comfort, let me love the way you love... And then, just completely surrender everything to him, including yourself and let Him take over. God does amazing things when we let him drive our actions and words.
I've seen people fall away from the Lord because Christians weren't what they expected. Don't make that same mistake. We are all broken people looking for love.
Im glad you're through with people! It's about time you figure that out.
. Yes, it hurts... Definitely hurts but people will always always let you down... There is only one who never does and that is God. Start depending on Him instead of others and you will see how he changes things. Start letting Him care and love others through you. Stop expecting from people but expect from God.Pray... Lord, you've place this person in my life now show me how to love them! Let me see the way you see, let me comfort the way you comfort, let me love the way you love... And then, just completely surrender everything to him, including yourself and let Him take over. God does amazing things when we let him drive our actions and words.
I've seen people fall away from the Lord because Christians weren't what they expected. Don't make that same mistake. We are all broken people looking for love.
J
Raine, I'm going to be in full agreement with you on this. I came to some sort of realization (God knows how long this one will last but you know what, I don't care) and I really need to stop where I'm at and just think...
I've been kicked at, spit at, tossed around, pushed around... Not literally speaking for the most part thankfully, but metaphorically speaking... I've been looked down on once too many times, I've been viewed and told ever since I could walk on my own two feet as to what I can do and what I can't, who I am and what I'm capable of and what I'm not, what I should be and what I should not be or else I'm shunned on and much more. I've had some bumps along the road where it was proven that I was selling myself short for and for about twenty years I think by now it needs to end. I need to break the cycle. I don't care how I go about it and if I just jump in once again but I really need to get myself together. Nobody's going to tell me what I can do and when I should or how I go about it. I've complained about it once too many times and yet I'm still waiting but I just need to dive into it. I'm tired of it and I'm only wasting my life on it. I need to take in the senses that I've long should've had and run with it. If people who were worse off than me can do it then I can too. I don't need to sell myself short on that. Thank you everyone no matter what it was that you've offered to me.
I've been kicked at, spit at, tossed around, pushed around... Not literally speaking for the most part thankfully, but metaphorically speaking... I've been looked down on once too many times, I've been viewed and told ever since I could walk on my own two feet as to what I can do and what I can't, who I am and what I'm capable of and what I'm not, what I should be and what I should not be or else I'm shunned on and much more. I've had some bumps along the road where it was proven that I was selling myself short for and for about twenty years I think by now it needs to end. I need to break the cycle. I don't care how I go about it and if I just jump in once again but I really need to get myself together. Nobody's going to tell me what I can do and when I should or how I go about it. I've complained about it once too many times and yet I'm still waiting but I just need to dive into it. I'm tired of it and I'm only wasting my life on it. I need to take in the senses that I've long should've had and run with it. If people who were worse off than me can do it then I can too. I don't need to sell myself short on that. Thank you everyone no matter what it was that you've offered to me.
R
Hmm... Sometimes it can be an honor to be kicked around, spit at, pushed aside, trampled over... Because when you what you do for God, as his hands and feet, things suddenly change. Things change because you do it for the one who was literally kicked around, spit at, pushed around, and trampled over... When you do it for Jesus things suddenly change... It suddenly isn't about your feelings anymore but about his kingdom.
I am slowly learning things in life... Expect people to respond to you with anger and hate and jealousy, expect them to build walls and pull out their swords and shields... People are scared and this is the natural response... Not saying I'm perfect because I screw up all the time, it's a learning process... But the question is... What kind of person do you wanna be? Do you wanna respond the same way or do you wanna respond the way Jesus responded... He responded with love. Even as he hung on the cross he responded with love.
And his love reached the most broken people and gave them hope. It takes time to see changes... Takes a lot of devotion with God, fasting, and prayer so that you will spiritually, emotionally and mentally be prepared. But it creates such an amazing journey as Christ shows you what he can do through you to heal the broken hearted.
I am slowly learning things in life... Expect people to respond to you with anger and hate and jealousy, expect them to build walls and pull out their swords and shields... People are scared and this is the natural response... Not saying I'm perfect because I screw up all the time, it's a learning process... But the question is... What kind of person do you wanna be? Do you wanna respond the same way or do you wanna respond the way Jesus responded... He responded with love. Even as he hung on the cross he responded with love.
And his love reached the most broken people and gave them hope. It takes time to see changes... Takes a lot of devotion with God, fasting, and prayer so that you will spiritually, emotionally and mentally be prepared. But it creates such an amazing journey as Christ shows you what he can do through you to heal the broken hearted.