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Miri

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laoshanlung said:
Now, as for that video by Stephen Dollins...


22. Most children don't give a darn about memorizing scripture. It's reeeaaaly boring at that
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Actually I did, we had a fantastic Sunday school when I was a child and we were e couraged to
learn bible verses and score points. I even took up the challenge to learn whole psalms.

As a child I was fascinated about the bible characters Jonah and the whale, Noah, Moses crossing the
sea etc. As a child I use to go to bed praying for the wisdom of Solomon.

As as an adult I was a leader on children's camp. They were amazing we use to have the most
exciting bible times in the morning full of quizzes, songs, team games, water fights etc.
The children never wanted to go home at the end of the week.

At my current church we have over 300 teens (including people your age) who come to the
young people's church service, the Friday night event and who voluntary attend the home
work clubs we run. The church takes them on all sorts of trips dry snow skiing, water parks,
scuba diving etc. At the church they have pool tables, coffee bar for them, table tennis,
a music studio to record and learn how to play things like guitars drums etc and all sorts
of other things.

The teens actively pray for each other, participate in their own Sunday service, have their
own worship team etc. You couldn't keep the teens away from our church!

Maybe you don't have these opportunities and I'm sorry about that, but maybe you could see if
there is something you could do in your own church to encourage others and learn. God's word
is amazing and exciting, it changes people, it speaks right into an individual's life,
you just need to discover that for yourself.
 
laura_charlotte

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Miri said:
Actually I did, we had a fantastic Sunday school when I was a child and we were e couraged to learn bible verses and score points. I even took up the challenge to learn whole psalms.

As a child I was fascinated about the bible characters Jonah and the whale, Noah, Moses crossing the sea etc. As a child I use to go to bed praying for the wisdom of Solomon.

As as an adult I was a leader on children's camp. They were amazing we use to have the most exciting bible times in the morning full of quizzes, songs, team games, water fights etc. The children never wanted to go home at the end of the week.

At my current church we have over 300 teens (including people your age) who come to the young people's church service, the Friday night event and who voluntary attend the home work clubs we run. The church takes them on all sorts of trips dry snow skiing, water parks, scuba diving etc. At the church they have pool tables, coffee bar for them, table tennis, a music studio to record and learn how to play things like guitars drums etc and all sorts of other things.

The teens actively pray for each other, participate in their own Sunday service, have their own worship team etc. You couldn't keep the teens away from our church!

Maybe you don't have these opportunities and I'm sorry about that, but maybe you could see if there is something you could do in your own church to encourage others and learn. God's word is amazing and exciting, it changes people, it speaks right into an individual's life, you just need to discover that for yourself.
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I seriously cannot commend you enough for this. What you've written is precisely what life is all about. That is absolutely fantastic. That kind of work is inspirational, it's make a positive difference in the lives of many so that they can do the same in turn for others and make this world the place God wants it to be.
 
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What starts off as those excuses: "I don't spend that much time with it, I'm not transfixed, I'll ignore the folklore parts of it, it gets me outside and talking to people, it helps me exercise, the world is depressing i need something fun to do" are the enemy's deceptive ploys in being given total control. The crux of this thread has been to address that very issue: Apart from the back ground and the enemy fuelled nature of this particular scheme itself, the biggest lesson is this: we as Christians need stay as close to God, turning every thought, deed and action to be fuelled by Jesus instead, doing His will every day in small and big things, and in turn, bringing others to Christ and their salvation.
 
SkittlePumpkin

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So I've lately been reading through the book of Jeremiah. I'm now on chapter 23. It's an absolutely INCREDIBLE book; I've read bits and pieces here and there, but never the whole thing all the way through. I'm getting super into it; I read about six chapters yesterday before work.

You know what else I did yesterday? That's right; I played Pokemon Go.

Dare I ask....could it...could it actually possible for one to have a relationship with Christ, spend time in God's word and in prayer, and ALSO find enjoyment in playing Pokemon Go without it becoming an addiction that takes over one's life?!

I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't tried it myself, but, by golly, it is possible. It REALLY is.


 
Blain

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sorry guys i wanted to discuss this as I do think it has a purpose however i have been very busy the last two days lol.
I think really this all comes down to a few things, first there are some who think Pokemon is evil second there are some who don't, second the tools used to discern if it's evil or not are also different, I have seen many who are opposed to pokemon post all kinds of evidence from the web while some like me rely on the voice of the spirit to decide if it's evil or not.

I know his voice and am always listening and he has warned me when I am near something or doing something he knows I shouldn't, I grew up with pokemon and in becoming a Christian not once did he give me any indication it's evil. I play pokemon and it's my favorite game to play but my eyes are still always set upon him and if pokemon is truly evil then it must be a very weak evil if one can love to play pokemon yet love God far more. If you play pokemon and it gives you unholy thinking and thoughts and if it becomes more important to you than God then yes I say you need to cut it off in your life.

But remember always that the enemy can and will use anything against us even something that was meant for good, judge for yourself which is the right path and the right decision to make
 
Willie-T

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Is anyone going to post where the Pokémon player just now ran into a police car? LOL
 
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Ultimatum77

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Willie-T said:
Is anyone going to post where the Pokémon player just now ran into a police car? LOL
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Then he either got literally poke-stopped or poke-copped lol.
 
RickyZ

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laoshanlung said:
Lady, you are looking only to destroy potential relationships and to infuriate anyone with enough sense to see that playing Pokemon is a passtime, not a way of life, or a method of distracting one's self from God. To be consistent, you would have to claim that anything in which God is not related to by definition is evil, such as horseback riding or watching television. You may believe that you are helping people by spouting this stuff, but believe me, the truth couldn't be any farther off. All I can say is this: enjoy being alone with your self-righteous conceits, as well as the overwhelming sense of bordom that you'll feel when you don't do ANYTHING because you can't let God meet you where you are. Point is, I hope for you, lady... I really do. But I'm sorry if you're blinded by pride that you don't hear me.
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The problem is, too many people make a life out of passtimes.
 
RickyZ

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The key is what place does it take in your heart? If it's a game to you, you're fine. If you idolize it, you're not. If it encompasses your entire attention span, you run into things like police cars ;)
 
von1

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We need to be more excited about reading our Bible.
 
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humbledbygrace25

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Does pokemon pose a threat to our walk with Christ. You be the judge for yourself, but I would like to present some interesting principle that Scripture reaches on this.

What does the Bible say we should think about.

Philippians 4:6

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Philippians 4:8 KJV
http://bible.com/1/php.4.8.KJV

Can interacting with something like this change me?

But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
2 Corinthians 3:18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/2co.3.18.KJV

Notice this warning found in James 3:14-16


But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
James 3:14*-‬18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/jas.3.14-18.KJV
Does pokemon teach about strife and supremacy by its very nature? Let's look at the theme song and object of the game:

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause

Read more: Pokemon - Pokemon Theme Lyrics | MetroLyrics
What does Jesus teach us?


But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Matthew 20:25*-‬28 KJV
http://bible.com/1/mat.20.25-28.KJV
 
laoshanlung

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Miri said:
Actually I did, we had a fantastic Sunday school when I was a child and we were e couraged to
learn bible verses and score points. I even took up the challenge to learn whole psalms.

As a child I was fascinated about the bible characters Jonah and the whale, Noah, Moses crossing the
sea etc. As a child I use to go to bed praying for the wisdom of Solomon.

As as an adult I was a leader on children's camp. They were amazing we use to have the most
exciting bible times in the morning full of quizzes, songs, team games, water fights etc.
The children never wanted to go home at the end of the week.

At my current church we have over 300 teens (including people your age) who come to the
young people's church service, the Friday night event and who voluntary attend the home
work clubs we run. The church takes them on all sorts of trips dry snow skiing, water parks,
scuba diving etc. At the church they have pool tables, coffee bar for them, table tennis,
a music studio to record and learn how to play things like guitars drums etc and all sorts
of other things.

The teens actively pray for each other, participate in their own Sunday service, have their
own worship team etc. You couldn't keep the teens away from our church!

Maybe you don't have these opportunities and I'm sorry about that, but maybe you could see if
there is something you could do in your own church to encourage others and learn. God's word
is amazing and exciting, it changes people, it speaks right into an individual's life,
you just need to discover that for yourself.
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I agree with every point you made. And yes, I have had most of the opportunities you described available to me, and they were amazing to undertake. And I'm glad that you could find joy in memorizing verses. But my point is that (by MY experience, not everyone's) most kids do not enjoy the repetition involved with memorizing lines of text, even if it is from the Bible. They DO love the stories in the Bible, but if you ask a 12-year old to recite any psalm that comes to mind, you probably won't get anything out of them. That's my beef with Stephen Dollin's comment.
 
laura_charlotte

laura_charlotte

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humbledbygrace25 said:
Does pokemon pose a threat to our walk with Christ. You be the judge for yourself, but I would like to present some interesting principle that Scripture reaches on this.

What does the Bible say we should think about.

Philippians 4:6

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Philippians 4:8 KJV
http://bible.com/1/php.4.8.KJV

Can interacting with something like this change me?

But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
2 Corinthians 3:18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/2co.3.18.KJV

Notice this warning found in James 3:14-16


But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
James 3:14*-‬18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/jas.3.14-18.KJV
Does pokemon teach about strife and supremacy by its very nature? Let's look at the theme song and object of the game:

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause

Read more: Pokemon - Pokemon Theme Lyrics | MetroLyrics
What does Jesus teach us?


But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Matthew 20:25*-‬28 KJV
http://bible.com/1/mat.20.25-28.KJV
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Thankyou Lord for opening this thread up to educate and inspire others to you, through posts like this one and various others, I pray we as Christians learn to be more like you, want to be close to you as we can in our daily walk in everything we invest our time in.

Thankyou for your post, I know it will reach many people in educating them not only why this scheme is wrong for us to partake in, but the bigger lesson at hand: lukewarm christians - I'll be christian when I feel like it, when others are doing it, when I can get away it, when I'm not addicted/God won't let me be addicted, when i ignore any negative aspect of it, when I need to relax, when i need to exercise, when i need something to make me feel good because of the state of the world we live and the excuses have continued - this doesn't cut it with God.

Revelation 3:16 says: So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

Keep up the great posts, they provide excellent insight and education for all non christians and christians alike.
 
laoshanlung

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Actually, I was in AWANA for a while, and we were offered points and prizes for memorizing verses. But to me, the work involved just wasn't worth the payoff in any sense. And rarely did I see another kid actually recite the verse without the pastor spelling it out for them. It actually amazes me that you find verse memorization to be enjoyable! I just like to get the gist of the text, try to understand what it means, then move on.
 
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o_O lots of twists in this post, also the game doesn't have a theme song. I mean we can twist anything we want to twist, i could twist CC into being sinful if i wanted too. Anything that overrules God in your life is a problem rather it be a cell phone game, not pokemon go but any cell phone game, a CHRISTIAN chat, Television shows, or any other hobby
 
laoshanlung

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Kirk said:
o_O lots of twists in this post, also the game doesn't have a theme song. I mean we can twist anything we want to twist, i could twist CC into being sinful if i wanted too. Anything that overrules God in your life is a problem rather it be a cell phone game, not pokemon go but any cell phone game, a CHRISTIAN chat, Television shows, or any other hobby
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Amen to that! I mean, technically, by being a Foursquare Christian, I've found that I'm considered to be a heretic by... whoever wrote this article below. Sin can be found in any worldly thing, regardless is its intentions. Or, at least, people can make good things APPEAR to be sinful.
 
laura_charlotte

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von1 said:
We need to be more excited about reading our Bible.
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That is one of the primary points of the thread. "oh but give me a break down as to what you do 24/7, i can ignore the mythological aspects of it, we're not hooked, I can't be hooked with the help of God, kids aren't interested in memorising the bible" they're nothing but deflecting excuses, there's no honest dialogue within themselves or with others in justifying this sin.

If we call ourselves Christians we have to live everyday as though we are. That doesn't mean reading the bible every breath we draw, but it does mean living for Jesus as close as we possibly can. When we've studied the nature of something and how it contradicts the God's word, that's more than enough to know that we should not partake in it, and we should be inspiring others with fruits of the spirit that show them Jesus through and through. There are many good suggestions throughout this thread for alternatives that actually go some way in extending the body of Christ in this much fallen world. That's where as Christian's our efforts should be focused.


 
laoshanlung

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So I guess I'm a heretic AND a satanist now. Throw those on the pile of crap I get from legalists, I guess...
 
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