Prophecy concerning President Trump

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Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2Cor 4:4

I have heard that he’s in the second heaven now, but I saw what got questions.org states. This will probably cause another firestorm here, but I ain’t biting. 😉

Believe what you want. I’ll do the same.
What are you talking about?

He is called the world ruler in Ephesians <--Kosmskrator
He is called the god of this age (world)
He is called the Prince of the Power of the Air
and He walks about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour

SO.....I am not real sure what you are talking about, especially with the bolded statement...?????
 

stonesoffire

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What are you talking about?

He is called the world ruler in Ephesians <--Kosmskrator
He is called the god of this age (world)
He is called the Prince of the Power of the Air
and He walks about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour

SO.....I am not real sure what you are talking about, especially with the bolded statement...?????

I’m squelching an argument before it starts...that’s what I’m talkin bout..

I quoted the scripture in John where Jesus stated this:

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

My thought in reading the whole of what He said there, is that the victory of His Cross cast satan out of the world.

I was taught (remember I’m Pentecostal) that he (satan) is now in the second heaven.

John Hagee:

The second heaven is where Satan rules his evil empire with legions of demons and fallen angels. Demons have power. They have personality. They have purpose. Satan has come to rob, to kill and to destroy. If he can mislead you down a wrong path that will destroy your life’s purpose…he has won the battle. The second heaven is his campground.

Make no mistake about it! Satan is a fallen angel who quotes Scripture to deceive and destroy the righteous.


But, in searching this out for the scripture this comes from, I came on www.gotquestions.org.

So I’ll find it.

Some Charismatic groups use the term second heaven in reference to Satan’s domain and anything that comes from there. They take biblical descriptions of Satan being “the ruler of the kingdom of the air” (Ephesians 2:2) and demons being “the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” (Ephesians 6:12) and develop a theology of spiritual warfare. According to these groups, “second heaven revelations” are false visions coming from Satan in an attempt to deceive God’s prophets on earth. Prophets must learn to distinguish between “second heaven revelations” (from the devil) and “third heaven revelations” (from God). These same groups also sometimes teach a hierarchy of demonic power, with the first-heaven (earth-bound) demons being of lesser authority and power than the second-heaven demons.


Just don’t have the stomach for this kind of “debate”.

Am still shell shocked from the last. 😳

So this is my way of starting and finishing it. ⚔️

At least for me anyway. Got it?
 
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I’m squelching an argument before it starts...that’s what I’m talkin bout..

I quoted the scripture in John where Jesus stated this:

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

My thought in reading the whole of what He said there, is that the victory of His Cross cast satan out of the world.

I was taught (remember I’m Pentecostal) that he (satan) is now in the second heaven.

John Hagee:

The second heaven is where Satan rules his evil empire with legions of demons and fallen angels. Demons have power. They have personality. They have purpose. Satan has come to rob, to kill and to destroy. If he can mislead you down a wrong path that will destroy your life’s purpose…he has won the battle. The second heaven is his campground.

Make no mistake about it! Satan is a fallen angel who quotes Scripture to deceive and destroy the righteous.


But, in searching this out for the scripture this comes from, I came on www.gotquestions.org.

So I’ll find it.

Some Charismatic groups use the term second heaven in reference to Satan’s domain and anything that comes from there. They take biblical descriptions of Satan being “the ruler of the kingdom of the air” (Ephesians 2:2) and demons being “the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” (Ephesians 6:12) and develop a theology of spiritual warfare. According to these groups, “second heaven revelations” are false visions coming from Satan in an attempt to deceive God’s prophets on earth. Prophets must learn to distinguish between “second heaven revelations” (from the devil) and “third heaven revelations” (from God). These same groups also sometimes teach a hierarchy of demonic power, with the first-heaven (earth-bound) demons being of lesser authority and power than the second-heaven demons.


Just don’t have the stomach for this kind of “debate”.

Am still shell shocked from the last. 😳

So this is my way of starting and finishing it. ⚔️

At least for me anyway. Got it?
Peter wrote AFTER Jesus said that....and HE said....THE devil as a roaring LION WALKS (NOT FLIES) about seeking whom he may devour.

No offence, but whoever taught you that is wrong........just embrace the truth STONES
 

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posthuman said:
He gives the vain nation the leader it deserves.




He also said that when a nation is ripe for judgement he will place women and children in charge of it.............<--To Israel and Judah
Lol..good to remember. Thanks be to God, I, just a middle aged mimi, am not in charge, lol. Yup, just another bondservent to my Lord and Savior.

PS... I am not anti trump and believe He, God, is in Charge of who our leaders are to be. I do think His comment was profound to consider.
 
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Lol..good to remember. Thanks be to God, I, just a middle aged mimi, am not in charge, lol. Yup, just another bondservent to my Lord and Savior.

PS... I am not anti trump and believe He, God, is in Charge of who our leaders are to be. I do think His comment was profound to consider.
Sure......Bones has many profound things to say....I was just embellishing it a bit with some extra biblical facts..........
 

CharliRenee

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posthuman said:
He gives the vain nation the leader it deserves.




He also said that when a nation is ripe for judgement he will place women and children in charge of it.............<--To Israel and Judah
Wait, I was all defensive, [email protected] Seriously though, where can I find that passage? I am interested to read this.
 
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Wait, I was all defensive, [email protected] Seriously though, where can I find that passage? I am interested to read this.
Isaiah chapter 3

O My people! Their oppressors are children, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths.

And I will make mere lads their princes, And capricious children will rule over them,
 

CharliRenee

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Isaiah chapter 3

O My people! Their oppressors are children, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths.

And I will make mere lads their princes, And capricious children will rule over them,
Yes, i found that, and just a couple weeks ago I was reading through Isaiah and skimmed right over that, tsk tsk. Anyway, this can help us be alert and ready. Good thing Hilary wasn't put in charge. :D.

Well thanks DCon for leading me back to His word. God Bless you.
 

calibob

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Good thing Hilary wasn't put in charge. :D.
Yet!!! Nancy Pelosi, Liz Warren, Susan Collins just to mention a few in this nation alone. Some of their children might be older now than T. Roosevelt was when he was elected. I don't believe that there is an alternate ending to the book of Revelations. It's not interactive and it can't be stopped or changed. And I don't believe the trib. started in 70 AD. The antichrist will be a man because Revelations says so. That's enough for me. Jesus is the last chance!
 

calibob

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What are you talking about?

He is called the world ruler in Ephesians <--Kosmskrator
He is called the god of this age (world)
He is called the Prince of the Power of the Air
and He walks about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour

PS... I am not anti trump and believe He, God, is in Charge of who our leaders are to be. I do think His comment was profound to consider.
@CharliRenee I agree with @dcontroversal this time. I believe the Lord is in charge of those who he has chosen and who have accepted him. The Devil is taking over the world, for now. I don't believe a nation that supports abortion, atheism, Mormonism, consumerism, debit, homosexuality and overall antichristian ethics. With a minority of born again believers will be exempt from the wrath of the Almighty when the time comes.

No, but we might be the first target when the Devil decides it's time to get rid of the most Christians and the most weapons that may be obstacles to the Devils eventual world domination and destruction.

I'm not against you Renee. I cannot see a Kumbaya moment at any time in our near future. I can read that the enemy will declare world peace has arrived, before the end, as we know it... :love:
 

stonesoffire

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Peter wrote AFTER Jesus said that....and HE said....THE devil as a roaring LION WALKS (NOT FLIES) about seeking whom he may devour.

No offence, but whoever taught you that is wrong........just embrace the truth STONES

I do Decon...Truth has a name and I embrace Him.


No offense but I believe you are wrong. 😉. Why could he not fly? Because he is a fallen angel? Lol

He devours us by lying if we believe him. What Jesus said is NOW the prince of the world is cast out! He is about to go to the Cross! His resurrection has made His body over the enemy, not under. And He is Lord!

He is only the god of the world though the world may not recognize that they worship him with their lifestyles.


Walketh about:

G4043
περιπατέω
peripateō
per-ee-pat-eh'-o
From G4012 and G3961; to tread all around, that is, walk at large (especially as proof of ability); figuratively to live, deport oneself, follow (as a companion or votary): - go, be occupied with, walk (about).
Total KJV occurrences: 96


G3961
πατέω
pateō
pat-eh'-o
From a derivative probably of G3817 (meaning a “path”); to trample (literally or figuratively): - tread (down, under foot).
Total KJV occurrences: 5

G3817
παίω
paiō
pah'-yo
A primary verb; to hit (as if by a single blow and less violently than G5180); specifically to sting (as a scorpion): - smite, strike.
Total KJV occurrences: 5


It’s the same word used for the body of Christ that Jesus said would tread on lions, scorpions, and all the power of the enemy.

There are three heavens Decon.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

High places:


G2032
ἐπουράνιος
epouranios
ep-oo-ran'-ee-os
From G1909 and G3772; above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.
Total KJV occurrences: 20


Now I wonder about the OT stories of Baal worshipping in high places. I thought it was the top of mountains.


Back later..
 

stonesoffire

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World peace has begun. The pope was called in...

There’s a video on YouTube.

Called Revelation: the Bride, the beast, and Babylon.

My grandson was educating me this morning. 😀❤️
 
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I do Decon...Truth has a name and I embrace Him.


No offense but I believe you are wrong. 😉. Why could he not fly? Because he is a fallen angel? Lol

He devours us by lying if we believe him. What Jesus said is NOW the prince of the world is cast out! He is about to go to the Cross! His resurrection has made His body over the enemy, not under. And He is Lord!

He is only the god of the world though the world may not recognize that they worship him with their lifestyles.


Walketh about:

G4043
περιπατέω
peripateō
per-ee-pat-eh'-o
From G4012 and G3961; to tread all around, that is, walk at large (especially as proof of ability); figuratively to live, deport oneself, follow (as a companion or votary): - go, be occupied with, walk (about).
Total KJV occurrences: 96


G3961
πατέω
pateō
pat-eh'-o
From a derivative probably of G3817 (meaning a “path”); to trample (literally or figuratively): - tread (down, under foot).
Total KJV occurrences: 5

G3817
παίω
paiō
pah'-yo
A primary verb; to hit (as if by a single blow and less violently than G5180); specifically to sting (as a scorpion): - smite, strike.
Total KJV occurrences: 5


It’s the same word used for the body of Christ that Jesus said would tread on lions, scorpions, and all the power of the enemy.

There are three heavens Decon.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

High places:


G2032
ἐπουράνιος
epouranios
ep-oo-ran'-ee-os
From G1909 and G3772; above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.
Total KJV occurrences: 20


Now I wonder about the OT stories of Baal worshipping in high places. I thought it was the top of mountains.


Back later..
Not going to argue with you.....your source is wrong....Satan is very much here and called the world ruler under inspiration....best thing you could do is ignore Joseph Prince....and open up to the truth Stones........!!
 

stonesoffire

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Not going to argue with you.....your source is wrong....Satan is very much here and called the world ruler under inspiration....best thing you could do is ignore Joseph Prince....and open up to the truth Stones........!!
Uh, that’s not me that listened to Joseph Prince D. You have me confused with another member, but she is a close friend. 😀

And how can you ignore the words of Jesus?

His position as the prince of the air is no more. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t affect the world anymore.

It means Jesus has bought back His creation! And creation is waiting for the Sons.