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Miri

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You may come to enjoy doing that. I started training in this kind of perceptive listening when I was in my twenties. It was required for the group therapy work a psychologist was grooming me for, but it got to be an interesting and fascinating hobby as the years went on. It can be invaluable in your workplace when you start finally catching onto the hundreds of words and "tells", as gamblers call it, that most of us display all the time without even realizing it.

I think Will is referring to unconscious bias, there is a lot of it a about and most don't notice.
For example meet two complete strangers for the first time (both the same colour if it helps).
You may take an instant liking to one person and an instant dislike to the other before they
even say much more than hello.

Then there is deliberate out there racism.

Both are as bad, at least you know where you stand with the up front racism.
The unconscious bias though needs addressing too, mostly it is harmless, but if leads to discrimination,
bad actions, downright nastiness then it needs to be dealt with just as much as the outright
racism.

I just wonder what these people would have made of Jesus it is doubtful he would have been white!
 
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This is but one small way "PC" is killing this country.
In the UK there was a debate around comedians and the racist jokes they used to tell.
Now all cultures have similar jokes, but there is a difference between a joke and when
people are really racist.

Now I know people of many cultures, and speaking from my heart, I would much rather
use different language than possibly end up hurting someone by being racist.

But equally it can go too far, like calling a black board a chalk board, when a black
board is a board that is black. That is going too far.
 
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So when black folks assault white people ..that has nothing to do with "racism" the fact they do it 50 times as often as whites assault blacks ..does not prove real racism? Willie your smarter than that ..I hope?
The truth is all communities have racists within them.
We had a group of refugees coming from the civil war in the Balkans , ex-Yugoslavia,
who were the most racist group I had ever met.

We need to oppose racism no matter how it shows itself, and not fall for the propoganda
which implies a group defined by a look are all one way.
 
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That PC crap don't work on me Willie ..I use the term all the time ... and the fact is that the true racism in America in is the heart of blacks as the crime stats prove beyond any reasonable doubt.
What is going to be a true test of american culture is when the latin americans outnumber the
european americans.

When you can see beyond skin colour to the person beyond you know you are no longer a racist,
but getting closer to seeing the person within.
 
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Mitspa

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Violence because of proven injustice towards a race is not racism. It's the effect from the cause. Racism in a un provoked hatred towards another's race, beliefs, etc.
The media has a lot to do with assigning a title to today's problems...we react in the defensive as it poses a personal threat. This cause and effect method has been used throughout history. The real question is why is this happening and to what gain. Why pick open scabs that only time will heal. The unrest is not without provoking.
Satan has been a master at turning brother against brother. Man against his God. It's not a p.r. issue imo it's a spiritual issue. A wicked one at that.
So as long as you have a excuse ..racism is ok? What insanity ! Satan works in the PC and left-wing insanity some of you are repeating on this thread.
 
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Mitspa

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I think Will is referring to unconscious bias, there is a lot of it a about and most don't notice.
For example meet two complete strangers for the first time (both the same colour if it helps).
You may take an instant liking to one person and an instant dislike to the other before they
even say much more than hello.

Then there is deliberate out there racism.

Both are as bad, at least you know where you stand with the up front racism.
The unconscious bias though needs addressing too, mostly it is harmless, but if leads to discrimination,
bad actions, downright nastiness then it needs to be dealt with just as much as the outright
racism.

I just wonder what these people would have made of Jesus it is doubtful he would have been white!
I have heard all this stuff and it comes strait out of the left-wing playbook where they continue to play the race card for political gain ... The idea that one race has passive racism against another, namely whites and Asians against blacks and browns. While the real evidence for racism is seen in the facts of physical attacks by blacks on whites at a epidemic rate.

By the way ..the avatar I am using is of a man will tell you all exactly the same thing ..but he would not be so gentle
 
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Mitspa

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The truth is all communities have racists within them.
We had a group of refugees coming from the civil war in the Balkans , ex-Yugoslavia,
who were the most racist group I had ever met.

We need to oppose racism no matter how it shows itself, and not fall for the propoganda
which implies a group defined by a look are all one way.
Of course ..but in America the real issues of racism that needs to be discussed are the continued attacks upon whites and Asians, by blacks. With the progressive agenda in America that is designed to keep blacks in a condition of anger and poverty its almost impossible to have a honest discussion even as we see on this thread ...where we have some ready to deny and excuse open and apparent racism because they have been brainwashed by progressive PC insanity.
 

Desdichado

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What is going to be a true test of american culture is when the latin americans outnumber the
european americans.

When you can see beyond skin colour to the person beyond you know you are no longer a racist,
but getting closer to seeing the person within.
Agreed, and actually upholding the Rule of Law is the first and vital step toward such a recognition.

To assert the contrary would itself be supporting the march of racism.
 

Desdichado

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The truth is all communities have racists within them.
We had a group of refugees coming from the civil war in the Balkans , ex-Yugoslavia,
who were the most racist group I had ever met.

We need to oppose racism no matter how it shows itself, and not fall for the propoganda
which implies a group defined by a look are all one way.
I happen to disagree when it comes to the Balkans in particular. That area of the world is so deeply and heavily racist that anti-racist crusades (most of which are half-baked) do virtually nothing. Westerners only end up looking like egotistical morons who think magical buzzwords will somehow re-wire hundreds of years of culture.

Nah, I'd think we would do better to remove what plank we have from our own eyes first.
 
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Of course ..but in America the real issues of racism that needs to be discussed are the continued attacks upon whites and Asians, by blacks. With the progressive agenda in America that is designed to keep blacks in a condition of anger and poverty its almost impossible to have a honest discussion even as we see on this thread ...where we have some ready to deny and excuse open and apparent racism because they have been brainwashed by progressive PC insanity.
I understand what you are saying. I have seen two wars where this strategy was used.
One in Israel - Palistine. It suits Israel extremists that the muslim radicals carry on murdering
so the apathide settlements can continue. It suits Hamas that Israel in unjust, so the hatred
can continue. So a few will murder, do outrageous acts and stirr the pot.

In yugoslavia a mercenary was happy to plant a bomb and blow up his own people and blame
the opposition to justify the war.

When one small act, though completely wrong, can cause another load of deaths but on
a much larger scale things are really bad.

Peace is always hard, hatred is poison, like bitterness destroys peoples life. I have known
young people brought up on hatred of catholics become terrorists murdering people by
planting a bomb in a pub. This road only leads one way, and it is always an illusion.

I met a young man who had come to Christ out of such a situation. It took him years to
start to see people as people and not catholic so should die.

Our war should be on this blind hatred and anger, wherever it happens.

So many in the system are quiet racists, which is so so so hard on the victims.

The problem if you are a victim of racism is always seeing it when it could be just
situation or the normal hard breaks of life and nothing to do with it.

Jesus's answer is forgiveness and realising we are loved unbelievably precious.
 
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Mitspa

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I understand what you are saying. I have seen two wars where this strategy was used.
One in Israel - Palistine. It suits Israel extremists that the muslim radicals carry on murdering
so the apathide settlements can continue. It suits Hamas that Israel in unjust, so the hatred
can continue. So a few will murder, do outrageous acts and stirr the pot.

In yugoslavia a mercenary was happy to plant a bomb and blow up his own people and blame
the opposition to justify the war.

When one small act, though completely wrong, can cause another load of deaths but on
a much larger scale things are really bad.

Peace is always hard, hatred is poison, like bitterness destroys peoples life. I have known
young people brought up on hatred of catholics become terrorists murdering people by
planting a bomb in a pub. This road only leads one way, and it is always an illusion.

I met a young man who had come to Christ out of such a situation. It took him years to
start to see people as people and not catholic so should die.

Our war should be on this blind hatred and anger, wherever it happens.

So many in the system are quiet racists, which is so so so hard on the victims.

The problem if you are a victim of racism is always seeing it when it could be just
situation or the normal hard breaks of life and nothing to do with it.

Jesus's answer is forgiveness and realising we are loved unbelievably precious.
Part of the problem here is godless progressive thought that denies "sin" in every man and woman ... we as believers, know that we are capable of hate of any person or group based on trying to walk in the flesh...if we are in the "flesh" we are always some sort of racist or bigot against someone ...but if we walk in the Spirit, we see all men as Christ sees all men ... that's the only solution to racism and bigotry ...all this other, leftwing race propaganda is just mans vanity where man believes they can justify themselves morally through some man made idea of racial harmony.
 
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pottersclay

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Of course ..but in America the real issues of racism that needs to be discussed are the continued attacks upon whites and Asians, by blacks. With the progressive agenda in America that is designed to keep blacks in a condition of anger and poverty its almost impossible to have a honest discussion even as we see on this thread ...where we have some ready to deny and excuse open and apparent racism because they have been brainwashed by progressive PC insanity.
I gave you a like because what you say is true but ...the issue is a spiritual one. Bees sting that's a fact but left un provoked we hardly notice them. But when you see a bee what's the first thing on your mind? They sting.
what p.c. tried to do is put everyone on a equal playing field but by doing this issues were ignored concerning certain races of people being subjected to un fair treatment. P.c. is a cover up and a lie which provokes bees to sting.
The media calls this racism...racial profiling...the truth is there is a problem which certain races experience and that problem is how they portray themselves. As I said in a earlier post..accountable. Not for one moment do I think that a black person was killed because he was black. Or a police officer because he was white. Or a Latino because of his skin
That's the lie. It is what they are being portrayed to be in are society.
Gangsters thugs hoodlums cartel you name it. The media had a lot to do with this...it's been a on going build up for years, in music, culture, in society, you are what you live mentality.
So now we look at the bee and say his only purpose is to sting.
 
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ladylynn

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Yeah, but like a normal person, I loose all my indignant outrage 3 seconds later.


Very much agree with you. It is our responsibility as believers to loose indignant outrage. We are not supposed to be reactionary., and in fact are to be guarding against that in our life every day since it will seek to assault us every day and cause us to jump the gun. It is way too human to "react"
 
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ladylynn

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You may come to enjoy doing that. I started training in this kind of perceptive listening when I was in my twenties. It was required for the group therapy work a psychologist was grooming me for, but it got to be an interesting and fascinating hobby as the years went on. It can be invaluable in your workplace when you start finally catching onto the hundreds of words and "tells", as gamblers call it, that most of us display all the time without even realizing it.


Human behavior is a study some Christian people have no use for. But it seems foolish to me to ignore human behavioral traits altogether. No., they are not fool proof nor are they to be put above God's ability to change people but they do give a good indication of what a lot of people could actually secretly be thinking.

Isn't there a verse about out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks? Maybe that is why it is so hard to keep our mouths shut? AAANNNNNDDDDD some people have learned that they can mimic good human traits to appear honest when in fact they are just accomplished liars. OR some have seen that keeping their mouth shut can keep them out of trouble so even a fool can look smart. Just like your gamblers and others who make a study of human behavior and how to get by in life by taking advantage of people.

The average guy or gal is not taking the time to study people. But it would be a wise thing to be learning since we are to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves while we are here on earth.
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ladylynn

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I think Will is referring to unconscious bias, there is a lot of it a about and most don't notice.
For example meet two complete strangers for the first time (both the same colour if it helps).
You may take an instant liking to one person and an instant dislike to the other before they
even say much more than hello.

Then there is deliberate out there racism.

Both are as bad, at least you know where you stand with the up front racism.
The unconscious bias though needs addressing too, mostly it is harmless, but if leads to discrimination,
bad actions, downright nastiness then it needs to be dealt with just as much as the outright
racism.

I just wonder what these people would have made of Jesus it is doubtful he would have been white!



This just speaks to me of the evil of the human heart without Christ. We need new hearts and then renewed minds to mature into full grown sons and daughters.
 

penknight

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Violence because of proven injustice towards a race is not racism. It's the effect from the cause. Racism in a un provoked hatred towards another's race, beliefs, etc.
The media has a lot to do with assigning a title to today's problems...we react in the defensive as it poses a personal threat. This cause and effect method has been used throughout history. The real question is why is this happening and to what gain. Why pick open scabs that only time will heal. The unrest is not without provoking.
Satan has been a master at turning brother against brother. Man against his God. It's not a p.r. issue imo it's a spiritual issue. A wicked one at that.
Exactly, you're getting at the real issue. We have to start at the origin of matters like that, and honestly look at what is gained from it. Many of us seem to forget that the devil plays a part in this too.
 
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Utah

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"Female drivers under 25 have the highest accident rate." is just a statement of what you might believe to be true. Expecting a 23 year-old woman to be a bad driver is prejudicial. ("racism", as it were.)
Is it more prejudicial or more the gift of discernment given to assist in self preservation? Probably both, but I'll lean toward the latter.
 

Utah

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racism IS alive and (un)well in America. Makes me sick! Funny thing, races pointing their fingers at each other and saying 'Racist!' We are all children of God, from the same family. Would be nice if mankind acted like it.
If the masses embraced one another for being fellow children of God, the race-baiting demagogues would lose their means of income. We can't have that now.
 
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Mitspa

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I gave you a like because what you say is true but ...the issue is a spiritual one. Bees sting that's a fact but left un provoked we hardly notice them. But when you see a bee what's the first thing on your mind? They sting.
what p.c. tried to do is put everyone on a equal playing field but by doing this issues were ignored concerning certain races of people being subjected to un fair treatment. P.c. is a cover up and a lie which provokes bees to sting.
The media calls this racism...racial profiling...the truth is there is a problem which certain races experience and that problem is how they portray themselves. As I said in a earlier post..accountable. Not for one moment do I think that a black person was killed because he was black. Or a police officer because he was white. Or a Latino because of his skin
That's the lie. It is what they are being portrayed to be in are society.
Gangsters thugs hoodlums cartel you name it. The media had a lot to do with this...it's been a on going build up for years, in music, culture, in society, you are what you live mentality.
So now we look at the bee and say his only purpose is to sting.
Not sure about your bee theory but I hear you ... Only Christ in a persons heart can fix this issue ...all this nonsense the progressives continue to try and force on others, is just the vanity of man.
 

Fenner

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Now, here's something to consider. How often do you, as a White person, ever call White people, "Folks?" That's a prejudicial thing we Whites do without even thinking about it.

I call white people folks. When Inwas a waitress I would say to a group of any race of people. Hello my name is Jen, I'll be your server tonight. How are you folks doing today? I don't recall anyone ever getting offended by my use of the word folks.