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Every article I read on what the defensive shooters recommend was usually 9mm once the prices went way up and capacity too. It's the most common brass and the teachers reload it many times. Anyone serious about practice would benefit by reloading. If I were to carry, I would buy new defensive ammo, make sure it's reliable in the weapon and then practice with reloads. Just make sure to reload your own. The popular WV reloads that were sold in stores were run by a kid watching TV while operating the machine. Bullets could be found deep seated way back in the brass at times. The owner cared less.
If you have brass, you have the most expensive component. If you make your own, you know what kind of care went into it and the safety.
If you have brass, you have the most expensive component. If you make your own, you know what kind of care went into it and the safety.
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This is true.
However, if you just want to try it out, I would go with a single stage press. They can be low cost new and are available used at shows when guys upgrade to progressives. I don't have experience with them, but have read many good articles on the Lee single stage presses. Gun forums will have a lot of experienced guys to provide more info, but don't let them talk you into a blue $ progressive as they brag on their set ups.
However, if you just want to try it out, I would go with a single stage press. They can be low cost new and are available used at shows when guys upgrade to progressives. I don't have experience with them, but have read many good articles on the Lee single stage presses. Gun forums will have a lot of experienced guys to provide more info, but don't let them talk you into a blue $ progressive as they brag on their set ups.
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Oops, too late, I have red, green , and blue in my accumulated "stuff" for reloading.
Just curious if anyone had a preference and experience with different brands of brass.
Thank you kindly H & H, factory ammo for defense is recommended, it ties to America having 4% of the worlds population and 80% + of the worlds attorneys. I do not fear this and know He can and does protect us better than we can protect ourselves, sparing us lest we stub our toe.
Dillon Square Deal B sure runs good!
Blessings to you and all.
Just curious if anyone had a preference and experience with different brands of brass.
Thank you kindly H & H, factory ammo for defense is recommended, it ties to America having 4% of the worlds population and 80% + of the worlds attorneys. I do not fear this and know He can and does protect us better than we can protect ourselves, sparing us lest we stub our toe.
Dillon Square Deal B sure runs good!
Blessings to you and all.
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Shittim,
I must've forgotten that you crank out your own. 🤦♂️
You certainly are too late. 😄
I'm speaking as a newbie to an experienced expert . My comment to Zandar was thinking that he might or might not get interested in reloading. If he learned how on a single stage, he could go from there with a progressive once he was sure. A Dillon is an investment. It's a very good investment if he used it for now on, especially in days like these with very high ammo prices....
Everyone who owns one says they are the best brand they've ever used.
If he can afford it now, maybe you can steer him in the best direction.
I know who to ask for advice on the topic for now on my friend.
I must've forgotten that you crank out your own. 🤦♂️
You certainly are too late. 😄
I'm speaking as a newbie to an experienced expert . My comment to Zandar was thinking that he might or might not get interested in reloading. If he learned how on a single stage, he could go from there with a progressive once he was sure. A Dillon is an investment. It's a very good investment if he used it for now on, especially in days like these with very high ammo prices....
Everyone who owns one says they are the best brand they've ever used.
If he can afford it now, maybe you can steer him in the best direction.
I know who to ask for advice on the topic for now on my friend.
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Study Finds Men Will Purchase Literally Any Object Described As 'Tactical'
AUSTIN, TX — A study at the University of Texas has confirmed that men will buy absolutely any item on earth so long as it is labeled "tactical".
"You can slap the word 'tactical' on a houseplant and men will buy it," said lead researcher Dr. Marcus Simms. "Just add a carabiner to a can of soup and voila! Men will be lining up to purchase tactical soup."
According to researchers, the study placed men in a store with various objects labeled as "tactical" and observed their behavior. "Tactical oven mitts? Yes, please," said study participant John Halston, throwing a pair into his cart. "Tactical picture frames, yup. Done. Aw, they're out of tactical plungers!"
The team tried progressively more absurd objects, but there was simply no item the study creators could come up with that men would not buy so long as it bore the "tactical" label. "What even is a tactical record player?" asked baffled research assistant Jamie Haskins. "Doesn't matter, he's throwing it in the cart. And there he goes, buying a tactical goldfish. Unbelievable."
At publishing time, the team was pushing further into feminine products, discovering that only 99% of men would purchase a "tactical fall-scented air freshener".
Oct 22, 2023 · BabylonBee
AUSTIN, TX — A study at the University of Texas has confirmed that men will buy absolutely any item on earth so long as it is labeled "tactical".
"You can slap the word 'tactical' on a houseplant and men will buy it," said lead researcher Dr. Marcus Simms. "Just add a carabiner to a can of soup and voila! Men will be lining up to purchase tactical soup."
According to researchers, the study placed men in a store with various objects labeled as "tactical" and observed their behavior. "Tactical oven mitts? Yes, please," said study participant John Halston, throwing a pair into his cart. "Tactical picture frames, yup. Done. Aw, they're out of tactical plungers!"
The team tried progressively more absurd objects, but there was simply no item the study creators could come up with that men would not buy so long as it bore the "tactical" label. "What even is a tactical record player?" asked baffled research assistant Jamie Haskins. "Doesn't matter, he's throwing it in the cart. And there he goes, buying a tactical goldfish. Unbelievable."
At publishing time, the team was pushing further into feminine products, discovering that only 99% of men would purchase a "tactical fall-scented air freshener".
Oct 22, 2023 · BabylonBee
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I absolutely love this!
As to the Norma question, this goes way back, so they could have changed since then. Anyhow, there were some reloaders that gave their experiences with Norma brass. Hopefully this helps. If I find something more recent I ll post it here for you.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...topics/3998899/Is_Norma_brass_actually_better
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at 1.00+ each, my search continues-
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001494087?pid=799260
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001494087?pid=799260
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You are correct.... the brass is the most expensive part of the cartridge.
Reloading is a good "hobby" to get into.... Many times, if you shop, you can find a good press for under $100.... then get a good beam balance scale for weighing powder. In reality, you could reload with just those two items.
For convenience, you might want a powder dispenser, to speed up the process a bit.
A priming tool of some sort is very nice to have.
When you reload a few boxes, then you start thinking of other tools to make it more efficient. Trays to hold your cases while loading, etc...
I've been loading for 53 or 54 years now.... I've used RCBS single stage, Lee single stage and progressive, but currently am using a Lee cast iron 4 station turret press..... mostly because I can set up each die, and not have to change them out every time I go to a different step in the process.
It's difficult to save a lot of money loading 9mm.... factory ammo is just too inexpensive. The best part of loading is that you can tailor a load to a specific firearm.... plus you have the added security of knowing you won't "run out" of ammo, if there's a shortage....
I agree, though..... I won't shoot someone else's reloads, unless I know them personally, and trust them completely.
Bad things can happen when you shoot a careless reloader's ammo....
Ask me how I know....
Reloading is a good "hobby" to get into.... Many times, if you shop, you can find a good press for under $100.... then get a good beam balance scale for weighing powder. In reality, you could reload with just those two items.
For convenience, you might want a powder dispenser, to speed up the process a bit.
A priming tool of some sort is very nice to have.
When you reload a few boxes, then you start thinking of other tools to make it more efficient. Trays to hold your cases while loading, etc...
I've been loading for 53 or 54 years now.... I've used RCBS single stage, Lee single stage and progressive, but currently am using a Lee cast iron 4 station turret press..... mostly because I can set up each die, and not have to change them out every time I go to a different step in the process.
It's difficult to save a lot of money loading 9mm.... factory ammo is just too inexpensive. The best part of loading is that you can tailor a load to a specific firearm.... plus you have the added security of knowing you won't "run out" of ammo, if there's a shortage....
I agree, though..... I won't shoot someone else's reloads, unless I know them personally, and trust them completely.
Bad things can happen when you shoot a careless reloader's ammo....
Ask me how I know....
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