The tattoo thread.

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Robertt

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Yeah I got one for sentimental value (family member) before I got saved. Been about six years that Ive thought about getting more, again for sentiment but the consensus here seems to be that the Bible says no.
jsut dont listen to them.. they put horrible clothes on the temple of GOD too.. lol

Just do it . if the Holy spirit isnt convicting you then one of two things
1. You not saved so it doesnt matter
2. It ok to do it
 

JohnDB

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Jailhouse tattoos usually look bad. I've seen a couple that were ok....but usually they are done with bad ink and equipment. So they spread and fade quickly. They are always just black/grey/greenish ink....no red, blue, or turquoise colors at all.

Then there's the artwork.
The misspellings, the shakey lines, bad concept of what is wanted....desired outcome vs real outcome.


Here's what I always suggest....get a temporary tattoo by the artist you are wanting to do your tattoo.
And pay for that a few times....you still won't have equalled the expense of getting it removed. And it gives you time to see what that piece of someone's else artwork feels like on you.

Then....there may be changes to the art you want.

Tattoos last a very very long time and have all kinds of stigmas associated with them. (Tramp stamp being one of those with a currently negative stigma but once was prized and a bunch of women all got them)

There's situations where people have to cover them...like for work. Unemployment over a tattoo seems unfair...but it's just yet another discrimination that is a reality and not how things should be.

This isn't a planet of how things should be but instead I have to live with how things really are. And where I don't necessarily like it...I have to survive.
 

shittim

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Thats umm interesting...Was there a psychological study on inmate tattoos?
Yes, that was the foundation. It was a facility where inmates entered the system and were classified according psychological factors.
 

Lynx

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#84
Ya gotta have at least one tattoo thread per year.
Yeah, there IS a quota to fill. How did you know about that? I thought it was a secret. But it's true. Every year we, as a christian forum, are required by law to have:
1 tattoo thread
3 marriage after divorce threads
7 grace versus works threads
4 halloween is pagan threads (reduced from previous requirement of 8 because of time constraints)
2 Christmas is pagan threads
1 Easter is pagan thread (reduced from previous requirement of 5 for lack of participation)
17 Jesus has a soulmate for you threads
1 thread a piece for complaining about every standard any church ever had

Sometimes it gets hard to keep up the pace.

Blame it on the pandemic 🤣
For real!
"After the lockdown is over you will emerge as one of the following:
A hunk
A chunk
A monk
A drunk
Choose carefully."
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#85
Someone asked me a long time ago, why do we celebrate the dead? And I said we dont (meaning Christians) but his point was that having a wake for the deceased, visiting the cemetery etc are part of the cult of the dead. It made me think, is this what I am doing by wanting tattoos of my dead parents writings?
I can't generalize those videos on extreme tattoo with anyone here or the average person. It probably would have been best not posted. It does show how there is a cultural and often occultic element that some use to express to others. Most people don't get tats for those reasons.
It showed extremes in the USA which are much more common. And there are primitive tribal cultures that do weird body mods, etc. I think it will become accepted until the average person is compelled to, but that's a different subject.
I don't think that you are doing anything cultic memorializing loved one . There's nothing wrong with reflection on your parents. I also think there's nothing wrong with gathering with family and memorialize the deceased. We only differ on how to do it.
Again, it doesn't matter to or affect me, so whatever someone else wants to do is between them and God as far as I'm concerned.
Tradition if gathering at the death if a loved one wasn't rebuked by Jesus or any O.T. commands that I can think of.

Perhaps the death cult idea others told you about might be this? Not sure.
I don't know much about it, other than watching this documentary.


 

TheNarrowPath

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I can't generalize those videos on extreme tattoo with anyone here or the average person. It probably would have been best not posted. It does show how there is a cultural and often occultic element that some use to express to others. Most people don't get tats for those reasons.
It showed extremes in the USA which are much more common. And there are primitive tribal cultures that do weird body mods, etc. I think it will become accepted until the average person is compelled to, but that's a different subject.
I don't think that you are doing anything cultic memorializing loved one . There's nothing wrong with reflection on your parents. I also think there's nothing wrong with gathering with family and memorialize the deceased. We only differ on how to do it.
Again, it doesn't matter to or affect me, so whatever someone else wants to do is between them and God as far as I'm concerned.
Tradition if gathering at the death if a loved one wasn't rebuked by Jesus or any O.T. commands that I can think of.

Perhaps the death cult idea others told you about might be this? Not sure.
I don't know much about it, other than watching this documentary.


I had heard of traditions like that before and its not sometihng that appeals to me. Similar to the pride parade, I dont want anything to do with it. But they are trying to normalize it for sure.
I dont think you can delete posts here? But at least it can inform someone of what is out there and to beware.
My friend is American Filipino so I dont know if he was talking culturally, He is also atheist but enjoyed debating.
 

TheNarrowPath

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Yeah, there IS a quota to fill. How did you know about that? I thought it was a secret. But it's true. Every year we, as a christian forum, are required by law to have:
1 tattoo thread
3 marriage after divorce threads
7 grace versus works threads
4 halloween is pagan threads (reduced from previous requirement of 8 because of time constraints)
2 Christmas is pagan threads
1 Easter is pagan thread (reduced from previous requirement of 5 for lack of participation)
17 Jesus has a soulmate for you threads
1 thread a piece for complaining about every standard any church ever had

Sometimes it gets hard to keep up the pace.


For real!
"After the lockdown is over you will emerge as one of the following:
A hunk
A chunk
A monk
A drunk
Choose carefully."
Glad I was able to help out and do my part for CC! And are you on the committee that oversees the threads? You need a raise!
I really think I have morphed into all of those. a hunky chunky drunk monk. Its hard shopping for clothes and trying to accommodate all four!
 

Lanolin

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what is your culture
I think it can be hard for some people to resist because they are born in a culture that expects everyone to be marked in some way, but as a believer, you must learn to resist anythng Satan does to put you off followng Jesus. You must be born AGAIN

it doesnt mean you can be a christian for 6 years, comgratulate yourself and then go back to being a pagan for the 7th
 

Dirtman

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I have no legalistic views on the subject. All I can say is that insist I had never gotten a tattoo. I dont hate them or think they are necessarily a sin although they can be. They dont go away if you change. Its still there to remind you of who you arent anymore.
 

Lynx

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I have no legalistic views on the subject. All I can say is that insist I had never gotten a tattoo. I dont hate them or think they are necessarily a sin although they can be. They dont go away if you change. Its still there to remind you of who you arent anymore.
No joke! Think of how culture changes. One day that will be a symbol of old times, something kids will sneer at just like they sneer at everything they can identify as old fashioned.

Just think... Some day "tramp stamp" will be known as "granny fanny." :eek::LOL:
 

TheNarrowPath

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No joke! Think of how culture changes. One day that will be a symbol of old times, something kids will sneer at just like they sneer at everything they can identify as old fashioned.

Just think... Some day "tramp stamp" will be known as "granny fanny." :eek::LOL:
Years ago I had a work mate who bought into that trend and got herself a "tramp stamp." Every time she bent over to stock up magazines it would be on display for the customers 🤣🤨
 

TheLearner

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The proof text agaist tatoos relates only to cutting onself and being marked or branded for pagan gods. It has nothing to do with modern tats.

Leviticus 19:28
Contemporary English Version
27-28 I forbid you to shave any part of your head or beard or to cut and tattoo yourself as a way of worshiping the dead.

Leviticus 19:28
Common English Bible
28 Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put marks on yourselves; I am the Lord.

As you all can see the text relates to worshiping the dead.

Take note the marks are on top of the skin, not ink under the skin.
 

TheLearner

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The Book of Leviticus was written about 200 years before The Book of Leviticus, therefore it can not forbid that which did not even exist at that time.

The Book of Leviticus was written between 1440 and 1400 B.C.

Who created tattoos?
I have been asking myself the same question for years, and the evidence for inking is likewise discovered among a portion of the old mummies in Asia (China’s Taklamakan Desert c). These ancient mummies are estimated to be aged around 1200 B.C. (Before Christ), in spite of the fact that the Japanese enhance their bodies with expand tattoos on their skin, this was a culture ever since the 3rd Century AD (After Death of Christ).
https://medium.com/@delashift38/the-ultimate-real-truth-about-body-tattoos-history-1ce6ab5ef033
 

TheNarrowPath

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The Book of Leviticus was written about 200 years before The Book of Leviticus, therefore it can not forbid that which did not even exist at that time.

The Book of Leviticus was written between 1440 and 1400 B.C.

Who created tattoos?
I have been asking myself the same question for years, and the evidence for inking is likewise discovered among a portion of the old mummies in Asia (China’s Taklamakan Desert c). These ancient mummies are estimated to be aged around 1200 B.C. (Before Christ), in spite of the fact that the Japanese enhance their bodies with expand tattoos on their skin, this was a culture ever since the 3rd Century AD (After Death of Christ).
https://medium.com/@delashift38/the-ultimate-real-truth-about-body-tattoos-history-1ce6ab5ef033
Thanks for sharing that. Im not an expert on the Bible so Im trying to discern all the views on tattoos, I did hear from God on it and still I am unsure of how to interpret it.
 

TheLearner

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In terms of actual tattoos, the oldest known human to have tattoos preserved upon his mummified skin is a Bronze-Age man from around 3300 BCE. Found in a glacier of the Otztal Alps, near the border between Austria and Italy, ‘Otzi the Iceman’ had 57 tattoos.
Otzi’s tattoos were made, they seem to be made of soot.

Soot is not ink.
 

TheLearner

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Most examples on mummies are largely dotted patterns of lines and diamond patterns, while figurines sometimes feature more naturalistic images. The tattoos occasionally found in tomb scenes and on small female figurines which form part of cosmetic items also have small figures of the dwarf god Bes on the thigh area.

What were they made of? How many colors were used?

Usually a dark or black pigment such as soot was introduced into the pricked skin. It seems that brighter colors were largely used in other ancient cultures, such as the Inuit who are believed to have used a yellow color along with the more usual darker pigments.

What has surprised you the most about ancient Egyptian tattooing?

That it appears to have been restricted to women during the purely dynastic period, i.e. pre-332 B.C

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/tattoos-144038580/
 

Lynx

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The Book of Leviticus was written about 200 years before The Book of Leviticus, therefore it can not forbid that which did not even exist at that time.
What you just said is that it was written about 200 years before itself...

That can't be what you meant, so it must be a typo. But now I'm curious what you meant to say.