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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
And again, it's you at the big round table of hundreds of Bible translators who have translated it man, not husband.
You lean forward and say....uhh...it's husband.
THEY ALL look over at you and say...no......it's man..
You say..but I went to seminary and wrote papers...
THEY ALL look at you and say..so did WE..and we actually translated Bibles...
Just putting it in perspective.
And again, it's you at the big round table of hundreds of Bible translators who have translated it man, not husband.
You lean forward and say....uhh...it's husband.
THEY ALL look over at you and say...no......it's man..
You say..but I went to seminary and wrote papers...
THEY ALL look at you and say..so did WE..and we actually translated Bibles...
Just putting it in perspective.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Right from the start woman has wanted to be over man...which is why God made it clear to Eve that Adam was going to rule over her. The natural...sin nature of woman is to rule...so why would a saved...blood bought lady of God want to do what that flesh...human fallen spirit wants to do.
I am glad to not be in the place of that leadership...that responsibiliy that God has placed on the man...the leader in the home...and in the church..
As a woman, I am content to be a help meet...in the home and in the church.
Right from the start woman has wanted to be over man...which is why God made it clear to Eve that Adam was going to rule over her. The natural...sin nature of woman is to rule...so why would a saved...blood bought lady of God want to do what that flesh...human fallen spirit wants to do.
I am glad to not be in the place of that leadership...that responsibiliy that God has placed on the man...the leader in the home...and in the church..
As a woman, I am content to be a help meet...in the home and in the church.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
I thought the "Jezebel spirit" as referred to in Rev 2:19-25, though it doesn't actually say "spirit", is just basically what this scripture says: "that woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophet — to lead my servants astray. She is encouraging them to worship idols, eat food offered to idols, and commit sexual sin." So surely Jezebel simply represents someone who tries to get Christ's servants to (just like this scripture says) worship idols, eat food offered to idols, commit sexual sin, etc. Where's the women pushing to have authority over men come in?
I thought the "Jezebel spirit" as referred to in Rev 2:19-25, though it doesn't actually say "spirit", is just basically what this scripture says: "that woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophet — to lead my servants astray. She is encouraging them to worship idols, eat food offered to idols, and commit sexual sin." So surely Jezebel simply represents someone who tries to get Christ's servants to (just like this scripture says) worship idols, eat food offered to idols, commit sexual sin, etc. Where's the women pushing to have authority over men come in?
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
And how do you know this vision was from God? I am aware that the Bible does talk about visions but again not all are from God.
Mark 3:24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
It all made sense. All the pieces came together and it was amazing.
That's not what I asked. You said there were many demons with the same name. Again where does the Bible state that?
I did answer this as you asked it three times before. The bible does not say there are multiple demons with the same name. I don't know why you demand me saying what you already know:
Do you have any idea how many people that are in the homosexual "community" that have been through deliverance. Guess what IT DIDN'T WORK. Wrong problem,the problem is a matter of the heart. But instead lets blame a demon for our own wrong passions,lusts and sin. Never tell them that what they really need to do is overcome the temptations which are common to man and a matter of the flesh which we need to put to death which is a battle in and of itself. Let's make them cripples instead of victors. Never mind the fact that people that have gone through deliverance over and over and over
I do not know how many homosexuals have gone thru deliverance. I don't know how effective deliverance is or isn't but you seem to be upset with it. Even, so, I have seen some amazing results from deliverance. I saw a man cast out a demon called fear and was instantly healed of serious and occasionally life threatening asthma. I saw one young lady stop taking her meds after a week after a demon cast out because she felt she did not need it anymore as her symptoms were gone. I have seen 6 men and one women become free of pornography addictions.
And then there is my own life. My life was hell. My home was haunted and that had an affect on the whole family, not just me. Twice I was all but physically attacked by something unseen. I even had some mysterious scratches appear on my body. God has been good to me and today all that is just a bad memory. It's all gone.
I am sorry you had a bad experience with a deliverance ministry, but that doesn't mean all of deliverance is ineffective.
And how do you know this vision was from God? I am aware that the Bible does talk about visions but again not all are from God.
Mark 3:24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
It all made sense. All the pieces came together and it was amazing.
That's not what I asked. You said there were many demons with the same name. Again where does the Bible state that?
I did answer this as you asked it three times before. The bible does not say there are multiple demons with the same name. I don't know why you demand me saying what you already know:
Do you have any idea how many people that are in the homosexual "community" that have been through deliverance. Guess what IT DIDN'T WORK. Wrong problem,the problem is a matter of the heart. But instead lets blame a demon for our own wrong passions,lusts and sin. Never tell them that what they really need to do is overcome the temptations which are common to man and a matter of the flesh which we need to put to death which is a battle in and of itself. Let's make them cripples instead of victors. Never mind the fact that people that have gone through deliverance over and over and over
I do not know how many homosexuals have gone thru deliverance. I don't know how effective deliverance is or isn't but you seem to be upset with it. Even, so, I have seen some amazing results from deliverance. I saw a man cast out a demon called fear and was instantly healed of serious and occasionally life threatening asthma. I saw one young lady stop taking her meds after a week after a demon cast out because she felt she did not need it anymore as her symptoms were gone. I have seen 6 men and one women become free of pornography addictions.
And then there is my own life. My life was hell. My home was haunted and that had an affect on the whole family, not just me. Twice I was all but physically attacked by something unseen. I even had some mysterious scratches appear on my body. God has been good to me and today all that is just a bad memory. It's all gone.
I am sorry you had a bad experience with a deliverance ministry, but that doesn't mean all of deliverance is ineffective.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Sorry, but that's patently absurd. I don't know any women that obsess over ruling over men. I certainly don't. They do irritate the tarnation out of me at times. But what I want from them is to step up to the plate and seize their role rather than so often shirking it so that the women HAVE to take over or there'd hardly be a church. Most women WANT the men to run things so women can take care of the details which otherwise go unattended.
Sorry, but that's patently absurd. I don't know any women that obsess over ruling over men. I certainly don't. They do irritate the tarnation out of me at times. But what I want from them is to step up to the plate and seize their role rather than so often shirking it so that the women HAVE to take over or there'd hardly be a church. Most women WANT the men to run things so women can take care of the details which otherwise go unattended.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit - John Paul Jackson
With keen insight, John Paul Jackson peers through the enemy's smokescreen and exposes one of the most deceptive snares used to destroy the Church. In this eye-opening book, the author challenges Christians to embrace God's divine order and seeks to strengthen God-breathed intercession and prophetic ministry that bears the marks of humility, wisdom, and discernment. "Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit" is biblically anchored and seasoned with years of divine revelation and thoughtful reflection
Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit: Amazon.ca: John Paul Jackson: Books
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"Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit" is biblically anchored and seasoned with years of divine revelation and thoughtful reflection.
ya: God told him all about it.
uh-huh.
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END-TIME DREAMER
John Paul Jackson’s supernatural life has led him to produce a supernatural television show, Dreams and Mysteries, which begins airing in September.
According to John Paul Jackson, an angel appeared to his mother before his birth, telling her not to weep over her miscarriage and that she would soon give birth to a son. She was to name the boy John Paul, the angel said, and he would have an 11th-hour ministry. Even her pregnancy would be a sign of that 11th-hour ministry. Not long after, Jackson’s mother became pregnant with him. He was due to be born May 30, 1950. His mother went to the hospital in labor on that day, but the labor pains stopped, and Jackson wasn’t born until two months later, on July 30 at 11:55 p.m.—“11 months to the day,” he says.
Now, at age 62, Jackson—the founder of Streams Ministries International known for his uncanny record of accurately predicting the global financial crisis and numerous other events in recent years—is fulfilling the calling of his 11th-hour ministry by hosting a television show on the Daystar Television Network entitled Dreams and Mysteries. The show will begin airing in September.
“I feel like the Lord has called me to start bringing the relevance of dreams and visions—what the Bible calls dark speech or riddles and enigmas—back into a relevant place in our church culture,” he says.
For scriptural support, Jackson cites Acts 2, in which Luke—quoting Joel 2—wrote that in the last days, God would pour out His Spirit and people would dream dreams, have visions and prophesy. Jackson also cites Job 33:14-16, noting, “God speaks in many ways that man does not perceive—in a dream, in a vision of the night.” He says the Lord uses dreams to “open the minds of men and seal their instructions, in order to conceal pride from man and to keep his soul from the pit and his life from perishing by the sword.”
Though the Bible says God will speak to people through dreams, visions and prophetic utterances in the end times, Jackson believes the church has largely “ignored everything but the Word.”
“I don’t undersell the Word at all,” he says. “Everything has to conform to Scripture, but that doesn’t mean we ignore dreams, visions and prophecies. In essence, we say we value Scripture, but then we defy what Scripture says—that in the last days, this is what God is going to do.”
Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit - John Paul Jackson
With keen insight, John Paul Jackson peers through the enemy's smokescreen and exposes one of the most deceptive snares used to destroy the Church. In this eye-opening book, the author challenges Christians to embrace God's divine order and seeks to strengthen God-breathed intercession and prophetic ministry that bears the marks of humility, wisdom, and discernment. "Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit" is biblically anchored and seasoned with years of divine revelation and thoughtful reflection
Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit: Amazon.ca: John Paul Jackson: Books
.....
"Unmasking the Jezebel Spirit" is biblically anchored and seasoned with years of divine revelation and thoughtful reflection.
ya: God told him all about it.
uh-huh.
......
END-TIME DREAMER
John Paul Jackson’s supernatural life has led him to produce a supernatural television show, Dreams and Mysteries, which begins airing in September.
According to John Paul Jackson, an angel appeared to his mother before his birth, telling her not to weep over her miscarriage and that she would soon give birth to a son. She was to name the boy John Paul, the angel said, and he would have an 11th-hour ministry. Even her pregnancy would be a sign of that 11th-hour ministry. Not long after, Jackson’s mother became pregnant with him. He was due to be born May 30, 1950. His mother went to the hospital in labor on that day, but the labor pains stopped, and Jackson wasn’t born until two months later, on July 30 at 11:55 p.m.—“11 months to the day,” he says.
Now, at age 62, Jackson—the founder of Streams Ministries International known for his uncanny record of accurately predicting the global financial crisis and numerous other events in recent years—is fulfilling the calling of his 11th-hour ministry by hosting a television show on the Daystar Television Network entitled Dreams and Mysteries. The show will begin airing in September.
“I feel like the Lord has called me to start bringing the relevance of dreams and visions—what the Bible calls dark speech or riddles and enigmas—back into a relevant place in our church culture,” he says.
For scriptural support, Jackson cites Acts 2, in which Luke—quoting Joel 2—wrote that in the last days, God would pour out His Spirit and people would dream dreams, have visions and prophesy. Jackson also cites Job 33:14-16, noting, “God speaks in many ways that man does not perceive—in a dream, in a vision of the night.” He says the Lord uses dreams to “open the minds of men and seal their instructions, in order to conceal pride from man and to keep his soul from the pit and his life from perishing by the sword.”
Though the Bible says God will speak to people through dreams, visions and prophetic utterances in the end times, Jackson believes the church has largely “ignored everything but the Word.”
“I don’t undersell the Word at all,” he says. “Everything has to conform to Scripture, but that doesn’t mean we ignore dreams, visions and prophecies. In essence, we say we value Scripture, but then we defy what Scripture says—that in the last days, this is what God is going to do.”
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
LCMS has a separate fund for services provided to communities (food banks; nursing homes; disaster relief, and so on) which has nothing to do with communion with other organizations.
LCMS will work and offer financial aid alongside anyone (Roman Catholics; Muslims), who is providing essential community service. this does not indicate any affiliation with that organization.
LCMS does not ordain women and does not fellowship with churches who do.
LCMS does use the title of deaconess for women who serve in the church - the role is servant.
LCMS also considers the Pastor (men) a servant.
LCMS has a separate fund for services provided to communities (food banks; nursing homes; disaster relief, and so on) which has nothing to do with communion with other organizations.
LCMS will work and offer financial aid alongside anyone (Roman Catholics; Muslims), who is providing essential community service. this does not indicate any affiliation with that organization.
LCMS does not ordain women and does not fellowship with churches who do.
LCMS does use the title of deaconess for women who serve in the church - the role is servant.
LCMS also considers the Pastor (men) a servant.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
no, that`s not the part that explains how long the gifts will last.
but im not bothering with all that again.
do you speak a miraculously imparted known human (gentile) language.
or do you gurgle in unknown noises.
only one is biblical. it ceased.
the other is not so new (pagans have been doing it since the beginning) - but is new to the ``church``, and is unbiblical.
you figure it out.
what do demons have to do with the gifts.
no, that`s not the part that explains how long the gifts will last.
but im not bothering with all that again.
do you speak a miraculously imparted known human (gentile) language.
or do you gurgle in unknown noises.
only one is biblical. it ceased.
the other is not so new (pagans have been doing it since the beginning) - but is new to the ``church``, and is unbiblical.
you figure it out.
what do demons have to do with the gifts.