Going to start juicing again

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tell your grandma that what is lost in fiber to you could help to make yummy and nutritious dog treats, such as the ones i make for my sweet girl, chloe. :)
I'll explain to Grandma. She and I have had these kinds of arguments before, wish she could answer back.;)

Thanks so very much about your information about whey!!! I couldn't find it on the net. At 88, I have lost so much muscle strength that proper cooking has become a problem for me. Net information I found says that for me, whey will help tremendously.
 

just_monicat

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Oh, I really need to put some ginger in, its good for stomach problems.
If you buy juice at the store it is pasteurized in the cartons or cans. You miss the enzymes. I like cucumber and tomato and it makes my skin feel sooooo good.
You really can tell the difference in your body when you juice and when you don't. I hate greens so if you hate them, you can just drink them mixed with other vegies juiced. They say no more than 1/4 of your glass should be greens. That's about all I could handle anyway.

Here are some recipes and it tells what they might be good for.

Juicing for Health | Juice Recipes
i wanted to thank you for the link you posted.

i have a lot of juicing recipes and notes, but i really appreciated the site you posted from. i love how they relate health benefits to each recipe, and not just in a separate section, and i prefer it to some of my other reference materials.

i've been juicing a bunch with my brand new slow/masticating juicer and have fasting over this last week. i know i am overdue when i deep in the headache phase around 12 hours in. i also love how well they photograph the recipes - sometimes it seems the photos i've seen for juicing recipes incorporate a more generic photo for the "green juice recipes (and i guess assume we don't notice).

i also want to comment on your statement that "they say no more than 1/4 of your glass should be greens". i actually am more like the opposite of that - 2/3 greens (or at least greens + veggies) and i use fruit, most often, granny smith apples, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the ratio. i'm not sure who "they" you refer to, are.

i'm also a big fan of implementing aspects of the gerson therapy. you may want to check them out. i've learned a lot about the chemistry of digestion and assimilation, and what foods/supplements contribute to health from their materials. a lot of it is widely available online. their strictest diet standard is used for those who are battling cancer and other chronic illness that isn't always receptive/cured by western medicine.

thanks.
 
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jeff3

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Hi Trisha!

I was a juicer for about six months and I became as fat as a pig due to the calorie intake.
Maybee I did it wrong but I learned from it that it's un natural to consume for example three oranges,four carrots,half a pinapple and two bananas in one hit.

Our ancesters were oppertunistic omnivores which means that they would eat whatever was available at the time.
Also the fibre is there to fill us up and tell us when we are full.

Sorry to do the negative on you but I'm only sharing my experiance.

Now I am vegetarian replacing meat with quorn products.
I don't drink milk or any dairy products because of the way Animals are treated.
The next thing to go will be Eggs.

You mentioned that you use the fibre in soups but soup also goes streight through you without leaving you full.
 

Angela53510

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I think juicing is saving my liver! I bought a Breville, and I love it!

I mainly do a green apple, an organic orange, some organic carrots and a beet. The beet is the real cleanser, but hard to stomach without the other things. I like the idea of adding some ginger, I'm going to try that tomorrow.

I am on toxic chemo drugs for my Rheumatoid Arthritis, and the biologic I am now on is very hard on the liver. So far, I have tested normal, because I do a lot of juicing before my blood test. If my liver gets bad, I will have to go off this drug, and there are none left I can use.

Please don't tell me it is about my mind, emotions or what I am eating. This is a genetic illness, and mine is bad. So I will be staying on this drug as long as I can. And eating naturally and juicing! I've been eating a vegetarian diet, growing my own veggies for over 40 years now. I do believe it has kept me healthy, otherwise!
 

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I'll explain to Grandma. She and I have had these kinds of arguments before, wish she could answer back.;)

Thanks so very much about your information about whey!!! I couldn't find it on the net. At 88, I have lost so much muscle strength that proper cooking has become a problem for me. Net information I found says that for me, whey will help tremendously.
red tent, it's my pleasure. you're an inspiration to us all (especially me)!
 

just_monicat

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Hi Trisha!

I was a juicer for about six months and I became as fat as a pig due to the calorie intake.
Maybee I did it wrong but I learned from it that it's un natural to consume for example three oranges,four carrots,half a pinapple and two bananas in one hit.

Our ancesters were oppertunistic omnivores which means that they would eat whatever was available at the time.
Also the fibre is there to fill us up and tell us when we are full.

Sorry to do the negative on you but I'm only sharing my experiance.

Now I am vegetarian replacing meat with quorn products.
I don't drink milk or any dairy products because of the way Animals are treated.
The next thing to go will be Eggs.

You mentioned that you use the fibre in soups but soup also goes streight through you without leaving you full.
i'm not trisha, but your post troubled and saddened me so much that i wanted to share my experience with you.

Hi Trisha!

I was a juicer for about six months and I became as fat as a pig due to the calorie intake.
Maybee I did it wrong but I learned from it that it's un natural to consume for example three oranges,four carrots,half a pinapple and two bananas in one hit.

Our ancesters were oppertunistic omnivores which means that they would eat whatever was available at the time.
Also the fibre is there to fill us up and tell us when we are full.

Sorry to do the negative on you but I'm only sharing my experiance.

Now I am vegetarian replacing meat with quorn products.
I don't drink milk or any dairy products because of the way Animals are treated.
The next thing to go will be Eggs.

You mentioned that you use the fibre in soups but soup also goes streight through you without leaving you full.
i'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

i'd be fat as a pig too if i juiced that much fruit regularly. i've actually lost weight juicing (i supplement my meals, and occasionally juice fast) but i use hardly any fruit, and almost all low sugar veggies. i really don't care for most veggies, so the average juice for me (like today) will be

lemon
ginger
kale
cucumber
celery
cabbage
carrot (3-5)
granny smith apple (2-3)

i'm noting the last two in quantity only because they are the ones with the sugar. i'd say the last two ingredients approximate 1/4 (maybe 1/3) of the recipe. i juice this and drink about 8-12 oz 2-3x per day. as you discovered, all that sugar causes your body to surge with insulin because your sugar levels peak. the only things that counteract a blood sugar surge are fiber, protein or fats.

for the most part i only use granny smith apples as the fruit to juice because they are lower sugar, and they special for a number of reasons, one being they are high in malic acid which have specific health benefits. as i indicated, i also use carrots in a restricted amount because they also have a fair amount of sugar. beets also fall into this higher sugar category.

if you're in great health and feel good, then perhaps juicing may not have as many benefits as they do for me. i have an auto-immune disorder at this time, as well as recovering from a moderate sports related injury and i have a lot of inflammation in my body. green juices have helped restore some of my vitality and energy lost due to the previous situations.

you mentioned the value of eating the items you juice--if you eat all that fruit, that's still a lot. i'd gain weight eating that much sugar, not to mention how hungry that would make me. the difference between eating veggies and fruits, vs. juicing them is that you are able to break open the cell walls, and create a medium in which you are much more easily able to assimilate all the nutrition that these highly nutrition dense fruits and veggies contain in a far more efficient way. depending upon your digestive system, and a host of other criteria, you may not absorb a little or a fair amount of that nutrition. juicing allows you to gain the majority of those nutrients. raw veggie nutrition not only has all the vitamins and minerals we know about, but a host of enzymes, caratenoids, and other beneficial plant chemicals, some of which we are only beginning to understand.

if you want to try juicing without all the concerns about weight gain, i would encourage you to look up many of the great green juice (low sugar) recipes that are out there, including the link that was posted in this thread.

by the way, i don't do bovine dairy either. i do consume a small amount of goat dairy products. i personally consume eggs for their health value, fish, and a lot of whey protein, as i eat very little meat products.

soups are great too! i'm a soup fanatic. i am glad you shared your experience. this is mine.

if you need any help, please feel free to message me.

take care, monica
 

just_monicat

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my server crashed and i was unable to correct a couple mistakes i made above.
depending upon your digestive system, and a host of other criteria, you may not absorb a little or a fair amount of that nutrition. juicing allows you to gain the majority of those nutrients. raw veggie nutrition not only has all the vitamins and minerals we know about, but a host of enzymes, caratenoids, and other beneficial plant chemicals, some of which we are only beginning to understand.


1. when i said, "you may not absorb a little or a fair amount of that nutrition" i meant, if you're eating those foods. fiber, as good as it is, does have the ability to carry some of that nutrition with it. i'm not down on eating veggies, but juicing provides a "booster" to provide additional nutrients.

2. also, i said i don't like most veggies. this is true. i really don't care for the majority of them, which is why i juice them. i have a ridiculously heightened sense of taste/smell and usually they're even more unappetizing to me when they're cooked. juicing allows me to get that nutrition, and my granny smith apples, lemon/lime, ginger, carrots and the like seem to help me get them down in a way that i enjoy.

anyway, i wish you luck. i hated to see you have such a miserable experience with juicing, and am hoping to give you another manner in which to consider it. sometimes people who have good health even enjoy doing a juice fast for a couple/3 days just to give their bodies a break. freeing the digestive system allows it to focus its energies in assisting the liver to cleanse the body of accumulated toxins.

good luck!
 
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valtafjoe

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Now that Im only working part time Im going to get a juicer and start juicing.
I heard cabbage, carrots and celery is a great juice drink. Although, I would probably throw in an apple for flavor.
Cabbage juice is supposed to be good for ulcers, acidity, arthritis, and healthy colon.
Juicing allows you to get all the enzymes and vitamins that heating destroys. You can use the fiber in soups or baked products later.
I had a juicer but hated the clean up because I was working full time, but now I have the time. If anyone is like me and doesn't get all the vegetables they should, juicing provides an alternate way to get them.
Anybody else juicing their vegetables?
Haha For a moment there when you said juicing i thought you meant using steroids as in what some bodybuilders use to gain muscle. Anyway I think just eating the fruit would give you more nutrients compared to juicing because some are off in the machine.
 

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I enjoy having a fresh juice, off and on... I find that I lean toward them more during the winter, idkwhy. I should experiment more with the greens, but I like to eat them to much, I can't bring myself to put them in the juicer! I have been wondering about red cabbage, anyone ever juice that? I do the same ol' juice;

3 carrots
1 apple, usually gala
Cup of red grapes
Good grip of green beans
Part of a lemon (in my husband's)

Makes a tall glass. Green bean juice is delicious.

I add boosters on occasion, bee pollen granules, acai, mangosteen, cold pressed flax. I have recently read about the benefits of parsley, might start playing with it in tea & more in cooking. My dad sent me a bullet for my birthday recently, I could not believe it... I have been eyeing it for a couple years, but felt it might go without much use, so I couldn't justify the purchase, but now, looks like I need to figure out how to use it!
 
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Haha For a moment there when you said juicing i thought you meant using steroids as in what some bodybuilders use to gain muscle. Anyway I think just eating the fruit would give you more nutrients compared to juicing because some are off in the machine.
Oh, I just saw in her post you quoted she spoke about cabbage! I read the whole thread too, and missed that somehow?!

But, yeah, I heard or read somewhere, fresh juice should be consumed quickly and definitely not stored, because it loses nutrient rapidly. I like fresh juice, but I like raw veggies to much to juice, especially beets, love beet salad. I pickle beets from my garden.
 

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My grandmother taught me not to waste what the Lord provides me with, I have been trying to train myself to throw things away ever since, but when I do I apologize to her.

Throwing away all the wonderful fiber from juiced fruits and vegetables had my days spent explaining to her. I got rid of the juicer, instead, and bought a vitamix blender. It makes wonderful smoothies, pulverizes everything.
I remember when I was a kid, my grandma would take the yogurt cups out of the trash (her trash wasn't very big so it was pretty clean) and finish the rest (scrape the sides of them) so it wouldn't be wasted. Now I always scrape the sides when I eat/drink something from a cup (pudding cup,etc.)
 
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rose1200

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I do not have a juicer... however, my friend does and juices her carrots every day. She says she can tell a difference when she doesn't drink her carrot juice. I usually buy it over the counter although I think doing it at home with your own juicer would be great. I remember she told me she did watercress too. I can't remember though. I guess the end result is a bunch of pulp, maybe you could do a soup or something with that.
I too are one of the many converts that see the benefits of Juicing -

going to buy a juicer that pulverises all of the fibre too as that is so important

'magic bullet ' or whatever it's called sounds great , new someone who practically

lived on juice, the weight dropped off them , so did their elevated blood pressures

& type 2 diabetes Good on you.....
 
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Jeve515

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I love juicing!!! Same here a hate the cleaning up lol... I work pretty much all day only time I have to juice is on the weekend and I just don't like the cleaning lol...but I should start again... what I mainly use to juice is oranges.. carrots and mango... I never really tried like a recipe or anything... I should start again... I think I'll pull it out tomorrow... I want to lose weight a little any suggestions???
 
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Jasidy

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Oh, I really need to put some ginger in, its good for stomach problems.
If you buy juice at the store it is pasteurized in the cartons or cans. You miss the enzymes. I like cucumber and tomato and it makes my skin feel sooooo good.

You really can tell the difference in your body when you juice and when you don't. I hate greens so if you hate them, you can just drink them mixed with other vegies juiced. They say no more than 1/4 of your glass should be greens. That's about all I could handle anyway.

Here are some recipes and it tells what they might be good for.

Juicing for Health | Juice Recipes
Thank you for the Link! I am always looking for ways to improve my over-all health.