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Hamilton

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

As one grows old, more attention to physical attribute maintenance is needed. For more info see my post in the Exercise thread in Natural Health Forum.

Blessings.
 

danja

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Welcome Haamilton .Glad to have you here
 

CharliRenee

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Wow, it sounds like you have much to offer the threads here. Welcome aboard, :)!! I think that you will find many other wonderful contributors here too. Looking forward to seeing you around in the discussions.
 

Hamilton

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Wow, it sounds like you have much to offer the threads here. Welcome aboard, :)!! I think that you will find many other wonderful contributors here too. Looking forward to seeing you around in the discussions.
Thanks, I am surprised by the length of the threads. So much to read. For now I am concentrating more on fitness.
 
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Welcome Hamilton to Christian Chat....God is good.....love in Christ Sherril...:)
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Greetings Hamilton!

welcome to CC !!!
:whistle::coffee:
 

Solemateleft

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

As one grows old, more attention to physical attribute maintenance is needed. For more info see my post in the Exercise thread in Natural Health Forum.

Blessings.
Greetings Hamilton & welcome... I think you will like it here in the cc... Lots of amazingly honest, and gracious, sometimes outspoken and opinionated - but always loving, caring and giving of advice for those who are seeking prayer, friendship, support or just a break from their daily routine... God Bless
 

Mel85

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

As one grows old, more attention to physical attribute maintenance is needed. For more info see my post in the Exercise thread in Natural Health Forum.

Blessings.
Hello, welcome to CC, glad to have you here :)

See you around the forums.

Blessings ❤️ E60B4234-6379-4955-B87F-7D9E00219406.jpeg
 

Kaps89

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

As one grows old, more attention to physical attribute maintenance is needed. For more info see my post in the Exercise thread in Natural Health Forum.

Blessings.
Hello Hamilton and welcome to the forums!




Tom
 

maxwel

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

Blessings.

Foundations:

You listed many things which are the RESULT, or OUTWORKING, of a person's Biblical understanding... his theological understanding.

Naturally, your Biblical understanding cannot "work itself out" into your life, if the Biblical understanding, the "theology", does not first exist.

It isn't possible to tell someone what God wants, or expects, or thinks, if you haven't even learned basic theology... you must first study the nature and character of God, and the nature and character of man, and what God has done to reconcile us, and how, and why. You need basic doctrine... theology. You cannot counsel someone on a book you don't understand, or do moral philosophizing on a book you don't understand, or engage in personal application of a book you don't understand. Theology comes first because it simply MUST.

Paul talks about studying the scripture, and learning good doctrine, and why these things are so important.
Paul explains why study and theology are so important as a foundation... but I think it's just common sense.
We need to HAVE a foundation before we can BUILD on it.
We can't build on a foundation that doesn't exist.

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

As one grows old, more attention to physical attribute maintenance is needed. For more info see my post in the Exercise thread in Natural Health Forum.

Blessings.
I will check out your post in the Natural Health Forum. I'm an old-timer too so you're in good company. Glad to have you onboard with us. Welcome to CC.
 

posthuman

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Thanks, I am surprised by the length of the threads. So much to read.
oh, you've noticed the 'not by works' omnibus then.. ?
the fact that thread has grown so long, so relatively rapidly, says a great deal, i think. i find it odd how certain topics explode and others sort of get passed by, sometimes. the things we will argue about! my!


welcome to CC Hamilton :)
His grace be with you!
 

becc

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Greetings, I am Hamilton (old timer but not old, LOL), talking to a friend, we were wondering about the relation between systematic theology, christian living, biblical counseling, moral theology, spiritual warfare, and chaplaincy.

As one grows old, more attention to physical attribute maintenance is needed. For more info see my post in the Exercise thread in Natural Health Forum.

Blessings.
Hello Hamilton. Hello and welcome to cc, i Hope you enjoy your stay here. :) God bless
 

Hamilton

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Foundations:

You listed many things which are the RESULT, or OUTWORKING, of a person's Biblical understanding... his theological understanding.

Naturally, your Biblical understanding cannot "work itself out" into your life, if the Biblical understanding, the "theology", does not first exist.

It isn't possible to tell someone what God wants, or expects, or thinks, if you haven't even learned basic theology... you must first study the nature and character of God, and the nature and character of man, and what God has done to reconcile us, and how, and why. You need basic doctrine... theology. You cannot counsel someone on a book you don't understand, or do moral philosophizing on a book you don't understand, or engage in personal application of a book you don't understand. Theology comes first because it simply MUST.

Paul talks about studying the scripture, and learning good doctrine, and why these things are so important.
Paul explains why study and theology are so important as a foundation... but I think it's just common sense.
We need to HAVE a foundation before we can BUILD on it.
We can't build on a foundation that doesn't exist.

..

...
Yes Maxwel, thanks for the explanation. Biblical theology is a must.

The root problem for us (when thinking about this) was that we recognize the need for a conceptual framework to fit each piece into the proper slot so to speak.

One such framework is Christian worldview. Some authors have identified the basic elements of it as:

Story (which touches on what you mention: origin, meaning, purpose, condition, need for salvation, atonement, faith, destiny, etc)
Attitude: which some authors think is key, as we are first and foremost to be christian stewards (including our love for God which should be first)

and Ethics: do unto others what you would like others to do onto you. So yes, no negligent counseling, if not trained to do it is included.

There is a workflow to deal with all of these, and in the article: What is the discipline of Biblical theology, Graeme Goldsworthy shows a informative diagram:

theology workflow 9 marks.png

Like you mention in theory there is a beginning (exegesis, Biblical theology), to then advance to other areas.

What I have noted after interacting with believers in different forums, is that excellent original language and exegetes usually treat the Bible way too much in a synchronic manner, and thus come to wrong conclusions because they do not take into consideration the "whole counsel of God". I believe in diachronical study, and intertextual too.

My interest in Systematics is precisely because it takes the whole counsel of God, and based on it all, tries to come up with adequate theological constructs.

I see a lot of people give lip service to the Bible, but that is all they do, they in reality are just "parakeet believers" pushing some dogma learned from some tradition or denomination, and conveniently violating the basic criteria for validation of theological constructs:

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As this thread was a general one just to point a bit towards what kind of subjects I am attracted, I did not give a lot of details.

Now that I have clarified things a bit, I hope you understand that all the subject are influenced by our presuppositions, assumptions, previous understandings, traditions, etc.

So we need a great amount of understanding of Prolegomena, before we can really sit to evaluate doctrine, theological constructs, and the like.

Most protestants want to say that the Bible should be the first authority in these matters, but most of the times the partícula group's interpretation is what is pushed as authoritative.

And that is what Jesus was not in accordance with: note that He told seekers to tell Him what they understood of Sacred Scriptures, never did He ask: "what does the Pharisees doctrine teach?", nor "what does Gamaliel considers the right interpretation of the Scriptures?", no, He asked "how do you read it?, what do you understand?.

I believe that each believer has an undelegable responsibility to evaluate doctrine, theological constructs, suggested or indoctrinated, because we are supposed to check to see if things are so in the light of Scripture. Any less is lack of due diligence.

Kind regards.
 

Hamilton

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What is your fitness background?
First sport was boxing (in my country back in my times it was mandatory), then swimming, then started Karate, a bit of Kung fu. Back then 3athlon was inexistent as a sport, yet I loved to run in the morning, then bike to the river, and swim later in the day.

In college I joined western fencing a bit on the foil, then to the saber. Then joined the Karate team, and Swimming team. After graduation I did a bit of kickboxing, tkd, muay thai, capoeira, hai dong gumdo (Korean sword), as I got older I did a bit of Crossfit.

Now I want to combine all of it with a bit of American ninja warrior elements.

My problem is that I need to learn how to program to cover all physical skills, without overtraining or overworking certain muscles.

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If you want to hear a funny story, just imagine that I became Christian (previously Catholic), because of me joining a karate academy. It turned out that the girlfriend of the Sensei was Christian, and the sensei decided to take us all to a Christian service, because he believes that marital arts should always be tied to a philosophical / religious system that allow you to develop higher virtues.

Since we are in the West, we did not take Budhism nor Taoism, but Christianity, which I did not see wrong as I was Catholic. Only after spending time with Christians, did I learn that I needed to check the dogma I was being taught, and found it wanting in the light of the Scripture, so I voluntarily became Christian.

I still love my Catholic brothers and sisters, but I realize that many are sincerely mistaken in their beliefs.

How about your background?