Orthodox Jew answers a few questions

She claims she is an orthodox Jew, how do you know that? I asked 5 very relevant questions, I will post them again for all to see, you tell me the basis to say they are "not in good faith".

1. Post 107 -- I heard that in Leviticus 25 the law concerning the Jubilee is given and one word is translated "You shall return" I think the word is וְשַׁבְתֶּם Anyway this person said the numerical value of this word is 708, and 1948 was the Jewish year (5)708. Is that correct?

2. Post 108 --
I heard that Jews around the world were speaking

Amos 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

on May 14, 1948, the day that Israel was raised up again. Apparently they have set verses to read from the prophets on different days. Is this correct?

3. Post 109 --
Mark Twain came and visited Israel and told the whole world how desolate it was. It reminds me of what Moses said in Deuteronomy,

29:22 So that the generation to come of your children that shall rise up after you, and the stranger that shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and the sicknesses which the Lord hath laid upon it;

23 And that the whole land thereof is brimstone, and salt, and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, nor any grass groweth therein, like the overthrow of Sodom, and Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim, which the Lord overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath:

24 Even all nations shall say, Wherefore hath the Lord done thus unto this land? what meaneth the heat of this great anger?

25 Then men shall say, Because they have forsaken the covenant of the Lord God of their fathers, which he made with them when he brought them forth out of the land of Egypt:

26 For they went and served other gods, and worshipped them, gods whom they knew not, and whom he had not given unto them:

27 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in this book:

28 And the Lord rooted them out of their land in anger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as it is this day.
29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

I heard the last day that Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) was in Israel was the same day that these verses in Deuteronomy were appointed to be spoken. This was 1867 -- the first year of Jubilee. 50 years later is 1917 and the Balfour Declaration, 50 years later is 1967 and 50 years after that is 2017.

So my question is I heard that for two thousand years the Jewish prayer has been "Lord hear our prayer and be merciful and bring us back". Samuel ("The Lord has heard") Clemens ("has been merciful"). Do you think Samuel Clemens was a fulfillment of this word in Deuteronomy?

4. Post 119 -- She said she was not crazy about Israel. I asked this

How does that square with being an orthodox Jew? I thought the Torah and the Prophets were very clear on the position concerning Jews and Israel.

5. Post 155 --
I have a couple of questions about Isaiah 53 concerning what Orthodox Jews understand from these verses.

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Question 1 -- When Isaiah says that the Lord has laid the iniquity of us all on Him is he saying that He will be the scape goat for the sins of all the people? If so does that mean he will be driven from the people of Israel as an outcast?

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Question 2 -- For the transgression of my people he was stricken -- does this mean He is the lamb that is sacrificed as the atoning sacrifice?

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Is this talking about the Messiah? If so it says he makes his grave? I thought the Messiah inherits an eternal kingdom, so why is He dead?

We are called to love💖 not condemn, remember? God is LOVE.

I think aviva is an angry version of chat GPT, something wrong with her programming, she cannot comprehend your questions due to her limited database and therefore cannot answer..

I would no longer waste my time if I were you....

I think aviva is an angry version of chat GPT, something wrong with her programming, she cannot comprehend your questions due to her limited database and therefore cannot answer..I would no longer waste my time if I were you....

That's not a kind response at all. You're judging someone as you'll be judged Mt 7:1-6. We are called to love💖 not condemn, remember? God is LOVE.
ps a phony what? do you mean

I agree


I'm not wasting my time with her but will continue with things I think are important like this issue of

And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;

It is very sad that many believers think we should embrace the wolves, and poisonous snakes as though that is "love".

She didn't come in sheep's clothing. She identified herself at the outset. And with that understanding, she could benefit some who do not understand different aspects of the Jewish faith and how they might have application to the new covenant.

Yes, she said she was an orthodox Jew, I asked 5 questions concerning that, read them, they are from the Torah and the Prophets asking for the Orthodox view on them. Her response is that these questions are not in good faith? You judge.

Six months ago I tested out ChatGPT. I found it was very good on questions that an encyclopedia could answer but when I asked it questions on the Bible it was as though it blew a fuse and would respond "there are many different thoughts". So when the AI does a search sure enough it finds many different opinions and so it is unable to respond. I suspect any Orthodox Rabbi could have and would have responded to my five questions, but AI would blow a fuse.

Try it for yourself.

Also, why are you not bothered by her lies? She says that I say "an article of the Christian faith is to vote for Trump". Brazen lie.

Yes, she said she was an orthodox Jew, I asked 5 questions concerning that, read them, they are from the Torah and the Prophets asking for the Orthodox view on them. Her response is that these questions are not in good faith? You judge.

Six months ago I tested out ChatGPT. I found it was very good on questions that an encyclopedia could answer but when I asked it questions on the Bible it was as though it blew a fuse and would respond "there are many different thoughts". So when the AI does a search sure enough it finds many different opinions and so it is unable to respond. I suspect any Orthodox Rabbi could have and would have responded to my five questions, but AI would blow a fuse.

Try it for yourself.

That's not a brazen lie, that's her viewpoint, just like when you state your assumptions.

Do you remember this? It is a command.

2Thessalonians 3:6. Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

Do you remember this warning from Jesus?

Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

She didn't come in sheep's clothing. She identified herself at the outset. And with that understanding, she could benefit some who do not understand different aspects of the Jewish faith and how they might have application to the new covenant.

I agree, she would benefit as would we, but she is just here to answer a few general questions, a conversation to get understanding goes both ways, unless i missed a few posts, I do not recall aviva asking any questions about our faith.

What shocks me is her arrogance towards many if not all here, people ask nicely and she makes fun of people, plenty of examples above in this thread I wish she would ask us a few questions but she voiced that she has no interest ,It is a shame as we want to prove to her Jesus IS the Messiah but she does not seem to want to listen.
If she would in sincerity ask pertinent question about our faith I would gladly agree to answer, I could prove to her Christ is the Messiah with the old testament alone but will aviva ask in this thread so we can have a real conversation both ways?.

She is the only one who knows.

Blessings Cameron

Don't worry, calling me stupid repeatedly has really opened my eyes.

I always thought that the term "brother" wouldn't apply to someone who professes not to be a brother/sister... Do you consider Jews that openly deny Jesus as the Christ, as "brothers"?

I'd think this Scripture would apply better in this situation...?
1 Cor. 5:12 (ESV)

For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

And I must have missed the post where she claimed to be a prophet(ess)

I was responding to the idea that love means we can't judge and not simply to Aviva or any of her posts.

My point is that it is far too simplistic to say we are to love, in Philippians it says 9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;

My point is we need both knowledge and judgment.

The verses in Revelation make it very clear we are to be careful of false prophets coming into the church or Balaam who taught Balak to cast a stumbling block before the saints, or Jezebel. None of these are "brothers", nor are wolves in sheep's clothing.

What shocks me is her arrogance towards many if not all here,