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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 [SUP]9[/SUP]Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men [SUP]10[/SUP]nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Edited to flow more. Usually originals flow more!
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 [SUP]9[/SUP]Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers[SUP]10[/SUP]nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

In the original, which parts sticks out like a sore thumb and disrupts the flow? Jesus must have said this part with his own personal hate for homosexuals. Or if not him, then who? (who has the original audio tape I will pay $1billion)

What am I on about, no-one ever had the power, even in times when religion had all the power, to do such a thing! Such evil didn't exist back then! In ancient times, politicians were like lambs, much like the lambs on this site who would never harm a bone.

This is a propaganda technique to really make you think something particular, or shock you. Used in advertising, used in 'public relations' (as propaganda has been rephrased) You have something that flows, like a poem, and then you have an awkward bit. Which part are you left thinking about?
 

Lighthearted

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Thank you, I like that. But I came here to understand why am I less in the eyes of my mother just because I am gay.
My oldest daughter is a lesbian and I struggle with...why? All I know is that I am her mother, God gave her to me after many years of trying to have a child. As her mother my job is to love her even if I don't agree with her choices. We all have fallen short of God's glory in one way or another. It's a struggle for a loving parent to come to terms with something they don't understand. God understands everything so I don't need to right now...but He will explain it to me someday.
 
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dalconn

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This is truly the toughest biblical subject even though the bible speaks clearly about it. Regardless, any man or woman can be healed of ANY sin.
 

stillness

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God made man in His own image, male and female...
God desires a bride: those who Love Him are the bride. Just as Adam was put I n a deep sleep for the woman to be taken out of Him. So was Jesus taking the blame for His creation: put in a deep sleep (to God death is a deep sleep). God did not abandon us in our sin: All manner of sin shall be forgiven to man except rejecting the Holy Spirit. It's the Holy Spirit who sets us free from our self.
 
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Sweetmorningdew78

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Hello! Welcome Felix :) see you around!


God bless you ❤
 
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Howdy.....I am new to CC and I have really enjoyed viewing posts and responding to them.:)
 

Rainrider

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We are never told in the Word WHY, we are just told it is wrong, and to live in sin of any kind leads to the second death.
Don't get me wrong, every answer you got in this thread is right, though in my mind they don't give the whole story. No matter what we look at, I think we will come up short on this topic, though they are all good answers.
One that I have not seen is the spread of STD's. Almost all of them are more prevalent in gays than in straight's. This may be seen by some as a punishment for the sin, and yet others may see it as just bad luck. Almost everything we are told not to do, we can find health reason for not doing them. Then at the same time, some of things we are told to do, have health benefits with them.
No matter how one boils it down, in the end, we are still told,( not in so many words) to love the sinner, and hate the sin. If we refuse to let someone in the church, then we are guilty of a violation of both the Torah, as well NT law. After all, to do that one can't say they love. Felix my door is open to you at all times. Amy HaShem show the way, and in it, may you find true happiness. You will be in my prayers, as well as many of us that have read your thread I am sure.
 

EarsToHear

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1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


Sin is the transgression or breaking of the law. The church world today goes from some that totally disregard the law, to those that place a strict bondage of the law to where there is no freedom in Christ. However, those that are the most spiritual sick are those that label things that are natural as a sin. God created man and woman, and God made man for woman, and woman for man and God made each of them attractive to each other. The woman is God's gift to man, and to admire the beauty of an attractive lady is not a sin. That is a natural thing in what God has created, and it is part of the plan of God.


My friend, when you become baptized and go under the water when you come up from that water, those natural instincts that God has placed in all men and women will still be there, and that is why we study God's Word so we can keep our emotions under control and disciplined. God's Word sets the standards that God accepts, not some board of deacons. When you falter, repent and get back on course. As long as you live in the flesh, you will have the emotions and temptations of the flesh. Learn from God's Word what is a sin, and not sin and don't let others put a guilt trip on you when it is uncalled for.


It is not alright to sin. The law was given as our schoolmaster, and when Christ came to earth He did not destroy the law, but He fulfilled it. Christ was the capstone on the old, and just as it was the schoolmaster, it is still the schoolmaster. The law tells you what will get you into trouble, while you are living in the flesh. So because transgression against the law is a sin, obviously the law cannot be done away with. All of God's laws are in effect, accept those blood ordinances that are not laws. They are statutes that have to do with those ordinances. Christ's blood fulfilled all those requirements, and in and through repentance to the Father in Jesus Christ's name, the blood of Christ blots out the Father's judgment of you for those sins. Christ's blood takes the place of those blood sacrifices.


Many of the laws are warnings to the dangerous things that can happen to you when these laws are disregarded. One who turns his back to Sodomy these days generally finds himself with an incurable disease. Even though repentance is sought for those wicked acts, the person still must pay the price for his actions in them. When a person sets out to rob another person, many times the victim has a weapon and wounds or kills that attacker. This is right according to God's law, yet the robber is sent to the heavenly Father to account for his actions in the flesh body. What I am drawing attention to is the fact that when you break God's laws, there is a price to pay, in most cases, even if there is repentance for that act at a later date.


Now let's review this verse; When you sin, you are breaking the law, because sin is the breaking of the laws of God. If there was no law, there would be no sin, because you simply can not transgress that law that doesn't exist. It is only a fool that would say that we have no sin in this mixed up world today.

The beauty of Christianity is forgiveness of sin on repentance.