Catholic Church

Please, curb your distain, the church is not the Vatican. The Vatican is a nation bent on world domination and conversion to their brand of religion partly for the collecting artifacts, tithes and property. Its even recognized by the U.N. with embassies worldwide. I don't even believe salvation is a primary agenda for the corporation.

The church are, (not is,) the people that identify with the brand. and many are sincere (although sincerely deceived) They (the Vatican) cut the Bible into pieces, re-arrange it and call it catechism then teach it to children who by the age of reason are either confused or brainwashed like most cults that specialize in in children. Furthermore the Vatican forbids marriage and normal sexual relations among its clergy (priests and nuns). Salvation through childhood baptism, confession and forgiveness (by priest alone) and communion is not only heresy but a recipe for sexual deviation and perversion.

On the other hand; if a catholic (or any one else) believes Jesus was born of the flesh, suffered and died for our sins, was buried and rose again, who is foolish enough to say they aren't saved?

P.S. I was raised catholic,, went to catholic school, became agnostic and later read the bible. That's how I got saved.

In my opinion, the Catholic church has done more to harm the Christian faith than any other institution in the world. While other faiths, like Islam, may outright oppose Christianity, and may even attack it violently, the Catholic church instead imitates it, and misguides people. They try to get you to seek forgiveness from a man, rather than Christ, they have tricked people into believing they can purchase salvation, they have hid the word of God from millions throughout the generations, they made a false God to worship (the pope), who imitates Christ, making him an anti Christ. This institution has practiced rampant pedophilia, it has been complicit it and has profits off of the guilt of others to this day.

I'm not saying all who identify as Catholic are going to hell, what I am saying is that true Christ followers should make a stand against this institution, and call it out like the false faith it is.

Please, curb your distain, the church is not the Vatican. The Vatican is a nation bent on world domination and conversion to their brand of religion partly for the collecting artifacts, tithes and property. Its even recognized by the U.N. with embassies worldwide. I don't even believe salvation is a primary agenda for the corporation.

The church are, (not is,) the people that identify with the brand. and many are sincere (although sincerely deceived) They (the Vatican) cut the Bible into pieces, re-arrange it and call it catechism then teach it to children who by the age of reason are either confused or brainwashed like most cults that specialize in in children. Furthermore the Vatican forbids marriage and normal sexual relations among its clergy (priests and nuns). Salvation through childhood baptism, confession and forgiveness (by priest alone) and communion is not only heresy but a recipe for sexual deviation and perversion.

On the other hand; if a catholic (or any one else) believes Jesus was born of the flesh, suffered and died for our sins, was buried and rose again, who is foolish enough to say they aren't saved?

P.S. I was raised catholic,, went to catholic school, became agnostic and later read the bible. That's how I got saved.

What catholic religion apologists like you do not realize is that all devout Catholics follow the dictates of the recognized authority of the Vatican.. The Vatican brand of catholicism is catholicism.. Anyone who does not recognize the authority of the Vatican over all things religious is not a catholic and should not be called one..

Please further elaborate on how the Vatican aims for world domination.

I don't call myself a catholic any more, I call myself a christian, sometimes I call myself an ex catholic depending on what or who I am talking to and about. I beleive in the authority of the bible over the Vatican or the Pope I only defend Catholics to haters because A] many catholics are saved, B] catholic means world wide and church means group of believers with whom I have no issue with!

It's the dogma, ritualism and superstition that comes from the Vatican that I stand against. The people are mostly good, 1/2 my family identify as catholic and I went through all of the sacraments but I turned my back on catholicisim when I read the word, from the beginning to Amen and feel I made an intelligent choice, about the time I turned 21, kinda like Martin Luther did. I do not accept his authority either. If I had to choose someone or something other the father, son and holy spirit it would be the word of God...that's all and I mean all. Thanks for sharing however...calibob P.S. Cali is for California

Have you never of charisatic catholics? There are different sects of catholics just as their in protestantism. charismatics who practice baptism of the holy spirit inc. speaking in tounges, jesuit, dominican, franciscanetc.

I don't call myself a catholic any more, I call myself a christian, sometimes I call myself an ex catholic depending on what or who I am talking to and about. I beleive in the authority of the bible over the Vatican or the Pope I only defend Catholics to haters because A] many catholics are saved,

No catholics are not saved because catholics believe all the traditions laid down by the authority of the Vatican.. You simply refuse to acknowledge the truth that catholics are catholics and that Christians are Christians and the two are not brothers and sisters in Christ.. As long as you say that catholics are saved the more you are standing in the way of them getting out of that harlot church and actually being saved..

People like you in an attempt to be nice towards catholics are actually blocking them from true eternal salvation.. You don't defend catholics from haters, by your own actions you show far more hatred to catholics then anyone else.. If they listen to you and remain as they are they will be cast into the eternal lake of fire on the day of judgement..

In my opinion, the Catholic church has done more to harm the Christian faith than any other institution in the world. While other faiths, like Islam, may outright oppose Christianity, and may even attack it violently, the Catholic church instead imitates it, and misguides people. They try to get you to seek forgiveness from a man, rather than Christ, they have tricked people into believing they can purchase salvation, they have hid the word of God from millions throughout the generations, they made a false God to worship (the pope), who imitates Christ, making him an anti Christ. This institution has practiced rampant pedophilia, it has been complicit it and has profits off of the guilt of others to this day.

I'm not saying all who identify as Catholic are going to hell, what I am saying is that true Christ followers should make a stand against this institution, and call it out like the false faith it is.

I don't call myself a catholic any more, I call myself a christian, sometimes I call myself an ex catholic depending on what or who I am talking to and about. I beleive in the authority of the bible over the Vatican or the Pope I only defend Catholics to haters because A] many catholics are saved, B] catholic means world wide and church means group of believers with whom I have no issue with!

It's the dogma, ritualism and superstition that comes from the Vatican that I stand against. The people are mostly good, 1/2 my family identify as catholic and I went through all of the sacraments but I turned my back on catholicisim when I read the word, from the beginning to Amen and feel I made an intelligent choice, about the time I turned 21, kinda like Martin Luther did. I do not accept his authority either. If I had to choose someone or something other the father, son and holy spirit it would be the word of God...that's all and I mean all. Thanks for sharing however...calibob P.S. Cali is for California