Disputed Passages
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There is nothing figurative about it. You are reasoning dyadically. Scripture is quite clear that Jesus bore our sins for us in his flesh. Whether or not we understand how this is possible does not diminish the fact. I do not have to understand how God accomplished in order to believe he did. Christ bore our sin in his flesh on the cross, not symbolically but in actually. If Christ did not bear our sins, who did?
If you were drinking and got caught speeding and I was not drunk and I said, quick, change seats with me - I would receive a speeding ticket in my own name. I bore your lawbreaking. I did not suddenly become drunk. I bore the penalty so you would not have to. That's not figurative. I literally accepted to take the punishment that should have been yours. But I did not become drunkenness!
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Hey, if I am joking and hit the misspelling emoji/like button, that doesn't take away from someone in any way does it? Because I will probably be hitting it every six seconds when talking with EG...
You're stunned by "grace" and he's Eternal "grace"!
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is that Mark 16 was added or that the time frame of the KJV was a later date ? Textus Receptus was manuscripts dating after 500AD. We know other manuscripts were written before 500 AD
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this chart is ok but please verify :
example :
this chart is ok but please verify :
MANUSCRIPT
PASSAGES
DATE OF ORIGINAL
DATE OF MANUSCRIPT
APPROXIMATE TIME SPAN
P52 (John Rylands Fragment)
John 18.31-33; 37-38
~96 AD
~125 AD
~29 years
P90 (Oxyrhynchus)
John 18.36-19.7
~96 AD
~150-200 AD
~50-100 years
P104 (Oxyrhynchus)
Matthew 21.34-37, 43, 45
~60-65 AD
~150-200 AD
~90-140 years
P98 (IFAO)[1]
Revelation 1.13-2.1
~90 AD
~150-200 AD
~50-100 years
P46 (Chester Beatty Papyrus)
Romans 5.17-6.3,
5-14; 8.15-25, 27-35; 10.1-11.22, 24-33, 35; 16.1-23, 25-27; Hebrews;
1 & 2 Corinthians; Ephesians; Galatians; Philippians; Colossians;
1 Thessalonians 1.1,
9-10; 2.1-3; 5.5-9,
23-28
50’s-70’s AD
~200 AD
~150 years
P66 (Bodmer Papyrus)
John 1.1-6.11, 6.35-14.26; fragment of 14.29-21.9
70’s AD
~200 AD
~130 years
P67 [2]
Matthew 3.9, 15; 5.20-22; 25-28
~60-65 AD
~200 AD
~140 years
AS WE study we have understanding it is along process to bring together the manuscripts . Textus Receptus was a later dated manuscripts. So the criticism is well founded however, is the authorial intent changed? Does the Textus Receptus or has the it been used by God? Is Jesus Lord? did He die ? Did He raise again? Is His Deity defined? Is salvation proclaimed? Is Jesus shown to be the only way of Salvation?
YES on all accounts
PASSAGES
DATE OF ORIGINAL
DATE OF MANUSCRIPT
APPROXIMATE TIME SPAN
P52 (John Rylands Fragment)
John 18.31-33; 37-38
~96 AD
~125 AD
~29 years
P90 (Oxyrhynchus)
John 18.36-19.7
~96 AD
~150-200 AD
~50-100 years
P104 (Oxyrhynchus)
Matthew 21.34-37, 43, 45
~60-65 AD
~150-200 AD
~90-140 years
P98 (IFAO)[1]
Revelation 1.13-2.1
~90 AD
~150-200 AD
~50-100 years
P46 (Chester Beatty Papyrus)
Romans 5.17-6.3,
5-14; 8.15-25, 27-35; 10.1-11.22, 24-33, 35; 16.1-23, 25-27; Hebrews;
1 & 2 Corinthians; Ephesians; Galatians; Philippians; Colossians;
1 Thessalonians 1.1,
9-10; 2.1-3; 5.5-9,
23-28
50’s-70’s AD
~200 AD
~150 years
P66 (Bodmer Papyrus)
John 1.1-6.11, 6.35-14.26; fragment of 14.29-21.9
70’s AD
~200 AD
~130 years
P67 [2]
Matthew 3.9, 15; 5.20-22; 25-28
~60-65 AD
~200 AD
~140 years
AS WE study we have understanding it is along process to bring together the manuscripts . Textus Receptus was a later dated manuscripts. So the criticism is well founded however, is the authorial intent changed? Does the Textus Receptus or has the it been used by God? Is Jesus Lord? did He die ? Did He raise again? Is His Deity defined? Is salvation proclaimed? Is Jesus shown to be the only way of Salvation?
YES on all accounts