Strong Women In Today's World

Your interpretation of Genesis 3:16 affects everything else you wrote.

Re-read Genesis 3, and determine if God is giving a "divine order" that women shall give birth in pain (no epidurals for godly women!), men must fight thorns and thistles while growing food crops (clean them out and you're sinning), or must eat bread with sweat on their faces.

Then try reading it as though it is a statement of certain consequence--not something that God wants to happen, but something that, as a result of the introduction of sin, will happen. Then rethink your entire thesis.

Also, he needs to research the authenticity of 1 Cor 14:34-35.

This is all relevant to men as well as women. Singling out women and addressing them with verses intended for the entire church is inappropriate.

You have posted twice without responding at all to my post. Is there a good reason why you haven't responded?

Dino! You said what I wanted to say about the passage applying to both men and women.

Marriage is a partnership between Husband and Wife or at least it should be.
Your attitude belongs to the dark ages. Even in Pauls time there were women who
were running businesses and in positions of authority. Lydia ran a business and
Priscilla was used in spreading the gospel along with her husband. Other Christian
women opened their homes for meetings and worship.

Some people who quote Paul use his words as an excuse to dominate and abuse
women. In any case women in positions of leadership are essential in cases where
it is not appropriate for a woman to consult a man regarding her particular concerns.
They are also at times better in the teaching and care of Children.

The idea that being taught by a woman is illogical. One should
be careful to check out whatever anyone teaches you. Gender has nothing to do
with it. As for Adam and Eve well Adam was the spiritual head of creation at that time
he was stupid enough to not only listen to Eve but to copy her as well so if Eve consulted
her Husband first would it have made any difference to the outcome? What they should both
have done is consult God

Oh brother not another un.

Got to give marks to the OP for spelling the thread title correctly
though.

For those interested you can find a few thoughts Here on this verse...

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Women are not a protected species. I'd be willing to bet there will be just as many, if not more, women cast into the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15 as men because Christianity's God is not partial. The soul that sins shall die regardless of it's race, color, or gender.

FYI: Heaven is a place of peace. Women infected with a strong personality cannot be allowed to go there; it wouldn't be fair to the others. And besides; strong women wouldn't fit in anyway; they'd be a fish out of water.
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Strong women...

is this about weight lifters??


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Try again. I'm awaiting a response to my first post in this thread.

Men are not a protected species. You took passages addressed to Christians generally and applied them to women specifically. Men infected with "strong personalities" as you call them will be equally excluded from heaven. Of course, if you are really as sexist as your posts so far indicate, you would not believe that.

I take it you don’t like women very much.

That’s a pity because Jesus did, he went out of his was to reach out to
women and speak up for them. You might also want to look at these verses.
We are all one in Christ.


A Godly strong man sure of who he is in Christ, would not feel the need
to try to belittle women.


Galatians 3:26-28 NKJV
[26] For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. [27] For as
many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There
is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither
male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gen 3:16 .... we have horrible birth pains, our desire is to be with our husband, and he will rule over us. .... (Mae paraphrase)...

And it is ALL TRUE!!!!

The only pain (so they say) a man can feel as close to "natural" (20-21st century medications not so true) is a man peeing out a gallstone. And it's usually women more in love, and longing for their husbands than their husbands them. And if that woman is a woman of G-d her husband is the head of the house.... NOT ALMIGHTY G-D.... HE NEEDS TO LOVE HER LIKE MESSIAH LOVES THE CHURCH.... AND MESSIAH DIED FOR IT!!!!!

Nevertheless, G-d created great strong women and even backed us up with His very Word!!! Look at Bebra who G-d made judge over His people because of her wisdom in battle. He gave Philip 4 daughters who prophesied and Lydia who was diligent in business, a seller of purple...

As a woman, I personally believe if she doesn't want a man to be the head of her she should not marry, just like Paul says. G-d mad us BRILLIANT and WISE... But the truth is G-d is the covering over the pastor, the pastor is the covering over the church. Can women preach? Under the covering of a man. This does not degrade us... it put him in the "hot seat" with G-d not us.... See how G-d protects us!!!!

While I agree with some points of your posts, we are all sinners and we all "would not fit" in heaven. Thats why we are all forgiven in faith in Jesus Christ.

So that a sinner like you, a sinner like me and sinners like "strong women" can get there

We wil be transformed to be better persons here in this life through various circumstances or/and after we will be resurrected.

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It's not uncommon to find skeptics quoting that passage in an effort to
circumvent a gender hierarchy for Christians; but the apostle Paul who wrote
that passage is the same apostle Paul who wrote several other passages
defending, and even insisting upon, a gender hierarchy for Christians. You'd
think people would have better sense than to refute Paul by quoting Paul;
nevertheless I catch them at it all the time.

FYI: Paul's gender hierarchy instructions did not originate with him; they're
Christ's.

● 1Cor 14:37 . . If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let
him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the
commandments of The Lord.

● 1Thess 4:1-2 . .We beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by The Lord
Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please
God, so ye would abound more and more. For ye know what commandments
we gave you by The Lord Jesus.

Therefore, people opposing Paul are actually opposing Christ. It's a domino
effect all the way to the top.

● Luke 10:16 . .Whoever listens to you; listens to me. Whoever rejects you;
rejects me. And whoever rejects me; rejects the one who sent me.

NOTE: If you're ever curious about a specific woman's spiritual condition;
get her into a discussion about male domination and you'll find out right
quick where she stands with God.
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lol

Poor Deborah, Esther, Rahab, etc.

Weber has decided you won't be in heaven.

Dude, you have issues...

(and FWIW, I'm a male)