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● Gen 3:16 . . and he shall rule over you.
That is probably one of the most hated verses in the whole Bible. Eve's
daughters do not like to be subjugated to and/or dominated by men. It
really goes against their grain; and if the women's suffrage movement that
took place in America's early 1900's were to be thoroughly analyzed, it
would not surprise me that women's right to vote wasn't really an equality
issue: it was a rebellion against male domination; which of course is to be
expected in a world gone mad with evil.
The current "strong woman" attitude is no doubt another aspect of that
same kind of rebellion; which in reality is not only a standing up to men, but
also a standing up to God seeing as how Gen 3:16 is a divine order rather
than human.
Gen 3:16 isn't restricted to marriage. It regulates women's place in Christian
churches too-- all Christian churches.
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the
churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the
Law says." (1Cor 14:33-35)
"Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. I do not
allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain
quiet." (1Tim 2:11-15)
How long the Adams cohabited sans the imposition of a gender hierarchy
isn't stated; but apparently there was no evident need for it prior to the
forbidden fruit incident; just as there was no evident need of a suitable
companion for Adam till he failed to find one from among the animal
kingdom.
My guess is that the measure is mostly to discourage wives from making
life-changing decisions on their own, independent of their husband's feelings
about it. I mean; if Eve had first consulted with her husband to see what he
thought of the Serpent's discussion before tasting the fruit, things may have
turned out quite differently.
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You're a man, aren't you? I can tell because you assume most people hate it. (Are men not people, or do they hate being the ruler?) And you don't know what caused the suffragette movement and assumed it's because women hate men.
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● Gen 3:16 . . and he shall rule over you.
That is probably one of the most hated verses in the whole Bible. Eve's
daughters do not like to be subjugated to and/or dominated by men. It
really goes against their grain; and if the women's suffrage movement that
took place in America's early 1900's were to be thoroughly analyzed, it
would not surprise me that women's right to vote wasn't really an equality
issue: it was a rebellion against male domination; which of course is to be
expected in a world gone mad with evil.
The current "strong woman" attitude is no doubt another aspect of that
same kind of rebellion; which in reality is not only a standing up to men, but
also a standing up to God seeing as how Gen 3:16 is a divine order rather
than human.
Gen 3:16 isn't restricted to marriage. It regulates women's place in Christian
churches too-- all Christian churches.
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the
churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the
Law says." (1Cor 14:33-35)
"Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. I do not
allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain
quiet." (1Tim 2:11-15)
How long the Adams cohabited sans the imposition of a gender hierarchy
isn't stated; but apparently there was no evident need for it prior to the
forbidden fruit incident; just as there was no evident need of a suitable
companion for Adam till he failed to find one from among the animal
kingdom.
My guess is that the measure is mostly to discourage wives from making
life-changing decisions on their own, independent of their husband's feelings
about it. I mean; if Eve had first consulted with her husband to see what he
thought of the Serpent's discussion before tasting the fruit, things may have
turned out quite differently.
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The history behind both the Temperance and Suffragettes Movement. From the late 1800s to the early 1900s, it was common in the cities for men to take a chair out from their home to sit on the sidewalks all day drinking. So common, the sidewalks weren't used as "walks." People used the streets because the walks were crowded with drunken men sitting on their chairs talking to one another. All day and most of the night.
And then they'd go home and use their wives for sexual pleasure, producing an abundance of children.
Meanwhile, women had to feed their babies and live, so they took in sewing, or laundry, or made clothes to sell, or swap with others for money and food. Pay day was Friday, so on Fridays the men would return home, beat their wives and take the money to go out drinking again. Women had little voice because housing agreements -- either rentals or ownership -- was strictly between men, so they kept on figuring out how to live with this abuse. And they turned to the one who helps whenever no one else is around to help -- God.
Then they gathered together, and continued on with the two changes they wanted most in the US -- less drinking and a voice in government. They enlisted the help of rich widows, who already had the ear of rich biusiness men, who had the ear of politicians through their wallets.
One of the women was friends with one of the Philadelphia business men. A guy named John Wanamaker who had a novel idea. How about making a store with different departments? One department for men's clothes, andother for women's clothes, another for hats, etc.? And, being a true Christian man and an elder in his church, he had another novel idea. How about hiring anyone who needs a job and can do the job, and paying them enough money to have a real life? With that, he hired the people American society gave little voice to -- "the coloreds" and women.
And it worked. And in hiring them and giving them investment into their own community, he listened to them. He already knew what was happening with many of the men, so he agreed with the temperance movement already. Talking to women he found they had brains and were hard working, so why shouldn't they vote too? And because he thought this, he talked to other elders in his church, the good men in the community, and they did what they could to help the women and the blacks.
People like that -- the ones who do not box in women into phrases like "
the most hated verses in the whole Bible." and do not assume "Eve's daughters do not like to be subjugated to and/or dominated by men" -- are the ones who truly understand where other people stand in the Lord. They are the ones that stopped America from thinking their "God-given right" is to beat and rape their wives in between drinking binges. They are the ones who stopped America from being as selfish as possible. They changed America's mindset through the gospel.
And then it was lost again several times since.
What's with this board that men think so little of strong women? Mary was a strong women. Miriam was. Deborah. Ruth. Mary Magdalene. Lydia.
I do know my place in the church and my place within my marriage. I will not submit to a man who doesn't know enough about what he is talking about to give a good study on the concept. And I do submit.
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