Were they chosen to show the good side or was it the bad side?

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markboyce

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Your snark suggests that you have no interest in learning. I don't waste time on newcomers with terrible attitudes.
Ok, I admit that I was a bit of an ass. I asked another poster to support what the poster said and I didn't get a reply.

My bad, please forgive me for my crude and rude responce
 

markboyce

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#43
Try reading a real history of Israel-Palestine since about 1800.
You seem to be knowledgeable on the subject. Just to prevent me from getting more garbage instead of the truth, you can set me straight right now so please, do so---!!
 

markboyce

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Neither. Why don't you research the matter for yourself.
I did research it and I posted what I found.

Since you say that I am wrong, that Palestinians murdered Jewish children and blew up people with bombs, please provide your facts. Believe me, I want to be proven wrong.
 

PennEd

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I did research it and I posted what I found.

Since you say that I am wrong, that Palestinians murdered Jewish children and blew up people with bombs, please provide your facts. Believe me, I want to be proven wrong.
Are you a Muslim?
 

Dino246

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You seem to be knowledgeable on the subject. Just to prevent me from getting more garbage instead of the truth, you can set me straight right now so please, do so---!!
I accept your apology.

Here are a few links that list attacks on Israel by Palestinians and other anti-Israel organizations...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/comprehensive-listing-of-terrorism-victims-in-israel

I would encourage you to do your own homework on the subject.
 

JaumeJ

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Hebrews 5 says of Jesus, tho he was the son, he learned obedience through suffering.
Could it also apply to Israel?
Romans 9-11 tells how Israel was chosen and remains so.
Hosea 6:2 After 2 days he will revive us. On the third day, he will lift us up.
This tells of Jesus' resurrection and the rebirth of Israel if you allow a day equals 1000 years.
Possibly using this verse, Isaac Newton predicted Israel would reform in the 1900s and the Messiah would return in 2060.
Leave the date setting aside, Newton saw Israel as chosen.
Exodus 4:22 God says Israel is my firstborn son.
A good post which requires understanding by the Holy Spirit. That is not a profound observation by any means, what I opened with for all the Word bears this resquirement, but your words chosen do in particular. God bless you always.....
 

Laish

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Are you a Muslim?
No he appears to be a banned member that has returned. I googled some portions of his longer posts and got results for a tooldtocare from a different site kinda interesting.
Blessings
Bill
 

Adstar

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If you looked before you spoke you would be saying something entirely different.

Muslim Americans are a diverse and growing population, currently estimated at 3.45 million people of all ages In their educational attainment levels, Muslims closely resemble the general public. About three-in-ten (31%) U.S. Muslims are college graduates, including 11% who have a postgraduate degree. On average, Muslim immigrants are more highly educated than U.S.-born Muslims.

Nearly six-in-ten U.S. Muslims adults (58%) are first-generation Americans, having been born in another country. An additional 18% are second-generation Americans – people who were born in the U.S. and who have at least one parent who was an immigrant. About a quarter (24%) of U.S. Muslims are U.S. natives with U.S.-born parents (i.e., they are from families who have been in the U.S. for three generations or longer), which is the case for nearly three-quarters of U.S. adults overall (73%
http://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/

There have been NO reports of Muslims trying to pursuade or force other Americans to become Muslims or anything else. The are good citizens and we as Americans are glade to have them.
Most of those muslims living in the USA are false muslims or they are muslims engaging in the art of lying to unbelievers takkya. This lying is done in a situation when muslims are not strong enough to wage jihad against the unbelievers around them.

The true muslims among them are simply tolerating the current situation until such time and the population of muslims in the USA reaches a critical level where open jihad to subjugate the Jews and Christians can be carried out and the extermination of the other unbelievers pagans and atheists can also be carried out..

I stand confident on my earlier statement.. No devout muslim will ever accept living as equals with infidels and unbelievers.. They must wage jihad when they are able untill all the world submits to islam.. So what is said before i say again.. Your demographics does not change the true reality of the situation..
 

Deade

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Dino246, when you accused the Palestinians of using “bombs” I looked back to see how many “bombs” were used. This is what I found.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

Dino246, I consider a 400 lb. explosive a “bomb”

Now Dino246; show me all the bombs the Palestinians used and how many died as a result--
You do realize you are talking about a time in which a war existed which now is 70 years past?

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Enoch987

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Yes, it is written that God chose them. He later said this--------------

(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

NOTE: They were gathered in 1947ad

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Enoch987, From the above it is clear enough, God chose them, gave them commandments to follow and then God saw something He did not like.

Enoch987, I want you to tell me why He changed His mind or what I am not seeing that would change my view of this scripture?
God didn't change his mind. He is chastising Israel. Modern Israel is Rothschild financed and symbolism of Luciferian Masonry pervades the Knesset (the Israeli parliament building). You base your understanding on current events while I interpret the Bible for what it says. Read Daniel 11 and Revelation. Modern Israel will follow the antichrist but a remnant will wait for the true Messiah.
 

Chester

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There have been NO reports of Muslims trying to pursuade or force other Americans to become Muslims or anything else. The are good citizens and we as Americans are glade to have them.
Really!? Well then here is your first report! I have personally had a Muslim try to convert me to Islam!

My brother in law has some Muslim friends, but he is scared of them now, because they told him that if things would change in America and Islam became powerful, they would kill him if they needed to promote Islam.
 

NayborBear

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#54
The "sons of ishmael", having been "born of the flesh?" Shall NEVER inherit the Kingdom of God! No matter should they cover the WHOLE EARTH, and be the "only" humans left! NEVER!! God would destroy the WHOLE EARTH, AGAIN! And, I'm not talking about Noah's flood! :cool:

Son's of Issac, are "Sons of the Promise!"
 

Deade

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The "sons of ishmael", having been "born of the flesh?" Shall NEVER inherit the Kingdom of God! No matter should they cover the WHOLE EARTH, and be the "only" humans left! NEVER!! God would destroy the WHOLE EARTH, AGAIN! And, I'm not talking about Noah's flood! :cool:

Son's of Issac, are "Sons of the Promise!"
Yeah well, What makes you say that? Where is that recorded?

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NayborBear

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Yeah well, What makes you say that? Where is that recorded?

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John 3
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Psalm 110
The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

You have problems with this, yes? :unsure:
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.