Can be gay and a Christian?

I agree with you calibob never said that was not the case. Never said you can lose salvation, never said we do not sin. I said there is a false teaching that teaches you identify with the sin that held you captive over Christ setting you free. That is a liberal theoglogy, which looks to make social sins norms in the church. That is why they attack as it was said “Conservative” Church” Christians.

Step 1] We admitted we we were powerless over alcohol-that our lives had become unmanageable.

Step 2] Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity

Step 3] Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God...

No, the 12 steps are not the means of salvation, Jesus is but the first 3 steps cause many to seek God, find Jesus and get saved. The dialectic way of identifying ones self as an Alcoholic serves 3 purposes. 1] It forces one to get out of the denial of their problem.
2] It gives the newcomer a sense of safety and anonymity. 3] I gives each member an identity that says "I belong here."

Josh it is not hostility call it passion for the truth. When liberal theology teaches that you are a “gay Christian” over I have be saved and set free from the sin of homosexuality which of the two speaks Biblically? If the God who saved us will not remember our sin anymore because of Christ why would I identify with that sin, put whatever sin you like to use. Many have used human reasoning and worldly definitions of the sin as a race of people or the something as an ethnicity.



metamorphosis transformation

neurological issues as well

You can be gay and a Christian, as long as you don't practice Sodomy

Really? What Biblical precedence does one use to establish these statements ?



And which the second one I agree with how does one come to reality if they are not told the truth?

It's not theology at all. It's psychobabel. and it dosn't come from liberal politicians but medical schools.

the Holy Spirit is the one who convicts of sin. make the decision without the gospel message is not going to work . the problem with AA is you will never be free from the addiction you have to identify with the addiction Christ ability to fully set you free from an addiction cannot happen. it is your Identity it nothing but a labor of the flesh where at anytime you can crash back into the very addiction you are not choosing to do now. If that is the idea of freedom given me bondage and chains.

D..my friemd..why are you going by the LAW? Have i not taught you anything..lol.God doesnt "rate sin" on a scale of 1-10 etc..sin is sin..CONSIQUEMCES for that sin might differ..btw..morning d

the Holy Spirit is the one who convicts of sin. make the decision without the gospel message is not going to work . the problem with AA is you will never be free from the addiction you have to identify with the addiction Christ ability to fully set you free from an addiction cannot happen. it is your Identity it nothing but a labor of the flesh where at anytime you can crash back into the very addiction you are not choosing to do now. If that is the idea of freedom given me bondage and chains.

As we ALL seem to be doing like ive said before...

@calibob The saying in your signature, it seems pessimistic. Is it? I get a feeling of sadness as I read it, as if one is misunderstood in the world around them. On the other side of the coin, there is a hopeful understanding of it. The worst ways in which we view ourselves others do not. There is hope, in that others see the beauty in you that you have missed. Which way do you see it?

@calibob The saying in your signature, it seems pessimistic. Is it? I get a feeling of sadness as I read it, as if one is misunderstood in the world around them. On the other side of the coin, there is a hopeful understanding of it. The worst ways in which we view ourselves others do not. There is hope, in that others see the beauty in you that you have missed. Which way do you see it?

I see calibob as a totally changed renewed man..big heart..

I see calibob as a totally changed renewed man..big heart..

Stop trying to get innocent people on your ever changing band wagon..give it up already n move on like the rest of us are doing...

jewel5712 just because your a liberal man hater please don't tell ME what to do. I will not LISTEN to you . you have no authority over a man. I was speaking to Josh yet you try to innerject yourself into my discussion.

Christ set me free I do not identify with 5.00$ TERMS

the wall of academia at home is well covered. It does not match Christ

And you said I was the one calling names...again..ill call you Mr Pot..

Btw..if you SPECIFICALLY want to talk with Josh..do so in PM not open forum where ANYONE is entitled to interject..

Nice try..

But your "you have no authority over a man" bit truly shows its YOU that have a problem with women..especially strong women that dont put up with your bologna!

I have tried on 2 occassions to put this to rest..you REFUSE to get off your soap box n let it go? Why???

You want a cookie for all you academic achievements? Ive known a ton of people book smart but people stupid..

No matter how anyone slices and dices this topic Romans is clear....Honosexuals have been GIVEN OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND by GOD and are to expect nothing but judgment.....<--why is this so hard for believers to accept.......?????? The very word of God states this and yet believers are ALL OVER THE PLACE with this revealed truth!!!!! Burger King Theology!