Not By Works

I think Jewel was either referring to herself.
If she was referring to you then maybe she had seen you post about being 73.

Maybe think before you jump off at the deep end.

You posted your age a good few posts after Jewel mentioned 46.

So me thinks she was referring to herself.

You must have been typing as I was.
Sorry to duplicate.

If you are a new person in Jesus and have the baptism of the Holy Spirit, you will be doing his work, and the work of Jesus is to take care of the poor and needy, etc. IOW good works. What do you think it means that "by their fruits ye may know them. Fruits are the product of good works that produce fruit. Don't fight me on good works. We do good works because we want to, not to gain EL, but because of our love of Jesus. You are kicking against the pricks to not be willing to do good works for Jesus.

If the prodical son had not repented of his sins and come back to the father he would have been lost and not recieved what the father had. IOW he would not have EL. The story ends nicely and he did repent and he did come back and he did recieve EL.
But all stories do not end well.

Your marriage story forgets that 50% of marriages fail to abide the covenant and therefore the covenant is broken and this is just like in real spiritual life. If you break your covenant with God and you do not repent and come back, you will lose your EL.

Jesus teaches us in the bible that "every branch IN ME that does not produce fruit will be taken away". (John 15:1-2)
This proves that OSAS is just not a true doctrine.

I was posting how many years ivebeen a christian since he said i must be a newbiechristian or a wolf in sheeps clothing n suspected the "latter"

We should rather obey God than men. That chapter in romans does not justify violating God's commandments. You are right we may not be able to vote for anything soon. Things seem to be going that way fast, especially in Europe.

I personally think a Christian should be interested in Politics. Here is why?


Romans 13:1-7 (NIV)
1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.


How can Democrats support Obstructionism and remain ever Hating Trump, and still call themselves Christians ? ? ?

Just my personal opinion.

A hanged man is cursed by God, according to Deuteronomy, written by Moses, inspired by God. Paul quotes the specific passage in relation to Jesus Christ in Galatians 3:13~ “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, ‘Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree’,” You seem to have a persistent problem with Moses and Paul, both of whom wrote under the inspiration of God: Moses, somewhere between 80-100 thousand words, and Paul, who penned thirteen of the twenty-seven books of the New Testament, which is 31.57 percent of the text. Those numbers for Paul do not include the book of Hebrews, since its authorship is contested. Now I realize you have a huge chip on your shoulder and an axe to grind as well, but isn't this something you should be taking up with God instead of spamming the board with your repetitive copy and pastes over a period of many months?

emphasis ANYTHING ELSE.

no matter how it's dressed up, anything other than total faith and trust in Christ will land one in hell.

one way. one way only.

V...,

My assessment....radical left dems. are not christian. They cannot be for the things they stand for and be right with G-d.....SIMPLE AS THAT.

I left the party several years ago when I saw what was happening....non christian moral standards, homosexuality approval, same sex marriage approval, if it feels good do it approval, etc.

Now add .....open borders approval, one world gov. approval, remove G-d, ten commandments, The Cross and Bible from society approval, etc.

There seems no limit to what immoral standards they will approve.
I, for one wish not to stand before My Creator one day and try to justify support of any system that relegates G-d and His Christian standards to the dung heap.

Reps. are not far behind and are trending in the same direction.

Im NOT being sarcastic..i was truly WONDERING and thinking bout what you said..46 yrs of being a christian but i see CC has gotten you defensive like many otherz.

In a nutshell, man is saved through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9); yet genuine faith is vindicated, substantiated, evidenced by works (James 2:14-24).

Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption "alone" and not based on the merits of our works.

It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony*

I just don't think you understand James 2 at all , and if you do not understand James 2 , then what else do you not understand...

YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING, WHAT OSAS, REALLY TEACHES. YOU ARE ONLY ASSUMING THAT YOUR OPINION OF OSAS IS CORRECT.

Let me show you where you went wrong with your THEORY. You Wrongly assume that one that LEFT the CHURCH, and goes on with his life, as happy as a human being can be, however he Lost his Salvation. No he was NEVER REALLY SAVE, and he is the PROOF...

He understands his rule of faith and practice.....called the APOSTOLIC CREED written by men "ex catholics" in 390 A.D.....it is what he bases his beliefs on and states clearly that it defines what we MUST BELIEVE in order to be a Christian...me....I just use the bible!

V...,

My assessment....radical left dems. are not christian. They cannot be for the things they stand for and be right with G-d.....SIMPLE AS THAT.

I left the party several years ago when I saw what was happening....non christian moral standards, homosexuality approval, same sex marriage approval, if it feels good do it approval, etc.

Now add .....open borders approval, one world gov. approval, remove G-d, ten commandments, The Cross and Bible from society approval, etc.

There seems no limit to what immoral standards they will approve.
I, for one wish not to stand before My Creator one day and try to justify support of any system that relegates G-d and His Christian standards to the dung heap.

Reps. are not far behind and are trending in the same direction.

Not to mention the push for and acceptance of the murder of babies in the womb......or did I miss that....

Oh gosh , I never even heard of these things...Me to , the bible is my daily bread , faith comes by hearing , and hearing comes from the Word of God...xox...

d...,

....my error...

Thanks, for the amplification.......there are so many.......yipes!

The Bible does say in John 5:24 that he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. So salvation is a present, current possession. Believers "have been" saved through faith (past tense with ongoing present results) from the PENALTY of sin (justification - Romans 5:1). The Bible also says in Titus 3:5 that it is not by works of righteousness which we have done, (Literally, "of works which are done in righteousness" and this passage fully refutes the doctrine of meritorious works, yet you tried to explain that away in one of your erroneous rants) but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, which takes place when one is born again at the moment of salvation.

In 2 Corinthians 5:21, we read - For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Also, in Galatians 3:13, we read - Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree." In 1 Corinthians 12:3, we read - Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed.. which "accursed" (Greek word - anathema) here would pronounce Jesus to be an impostor, and therefore justly punished with death, which is not the sense of the word "cursed" in Galatians 3:13. Paul is not contradicting himself and you need to stop falsely accusing dcon of calling Jesus "cursed/accursed" in that latter sense. In contrast, believers say that Jesus is Lord by the Holy Spirit.