Not By Works

no, my cousin believes the same thing you, needs to studyman, and the rest of the lawyers/ workers believe- that we get and maintain salvation by command keeping.

he is wrong, ya'll are wrong, Jesus is right- whosoever believes will be saved. then, we manifest the fruits of the Sprit, which a byproduct of is doing the good works that we are to do, and thereby fulfill the righteous intent of the Law.

Where does your application reconcile with the law of Christ? (see Galatians 6:2) Please answer, thank you.

He is not wrong, ya'll is not wrong, because what you have said is what we believe. Whoever believes will be saved, then, we manifest the fruits of the Spirit, which a byproduct of is doing the good works that we are to do, and thereby fulfill the righteous intent of the Law. Thank you, we are not far apart.

LOL
That's pretty funny!
I'm what Dcon would call a worker-for and what Jesus would call one who obeys Him and all He taught...

No easy believism and love only gospel down my road...

This isn't the 1st century and the biblebaptist guy isn't John or Jesus or Paul.

He's a Christian like I am and I treated him with respect and expect to be treated the same.
No one here is FORCED to speak to anyone they don't feel comfy with.

BTW, since you're so interested in the 1st century, do you also believe what the 1st century theologians taught?? Also known as the Early Church Fathers.

Everyone on this forum comes to Jesus to have life. We do not refuse to come to Jesus to have life. We come to Jesus to have life.

The sheep were separated from the goats because the sheep follow their Savior, and do as the Savior tells them to do. The goats are not as obedient, and are not willing to follow and are not willing to do what they are told.

Matthew 25:32-46 is how God is going to separate the sheep from the goats. Now you say, " God will separate the sheep from the goats so we do not need to 2nd guess who is truly saved, only test the spirits whether they be from God. But the scripture says that the separation will be done by what good works we do. That is the true sign. Living the Law of Christ (see Galatians 6:2). No 2nd guessing, no testing the spirits, but just what good works they did. The sheep were engaged in the work of the Lord and went on to EL. The goats were not engaged int he work of the Lord and went on to everlasting punishment.

Matthew 25:32-46 is a great scripture to illistrate what it takes to be a sheep in the Lords flock. Thank you for your bringing it up.

Hi gb9, most workers to keep salvation and who also say you can loose your eternal salvation will without fail say that if you believe in the, "Eternal Security of the Believer", doctrine, (OSAS), then there is nothing more to do but just sit and wait for the return of Jesus. It is the only argument they have for "eternal security."

My best guess is that they are fringe Christians, like John5:35 say's they "study the scriptures" because in them they believe they will have "eternal life", but there is no circumcision of the heart and an intimate heart relationship with our Savior. But they do have an intellectual head knowledge only.

What born again Christian do you know who believes that "nothing will ever separate us from the love of God", nor will God ever lose one of His dear Children" and that after their eternal salvation all that has to happen is to, "wait for the return of Jesus." Who in your circle of True Christian's friends would ever believe such "nonsense", of course "Nobody" would.

"Eternal Salvation", is a gift of God for those who believe. Your "Pride" the original sin will keep you from entering God's "Eternal Heaven" confess and return to God.

God bless!

You must be one of the sheep. Keep believing and obeying, and keep telling us some other experiences that you have had.

I don't know you benhur...although your name seems familiar to me.
I've been a Christian a really long time and I'm not sure what you mean by experiences.
Had plenty of those, but I don't go by experiences...I go by what I know and I know that Jesus said we're to obey Him.
John 14:15

Oh we have a way to INGNORE YOUR WHOLE POST permanently. I am thinking about putting you there.

The sheep are clearly depicted in Matthew 25:32-46. Since I already know that you are engaged in the work of the Lord this way, I am not sure why you resist my call to be engaged in the work of the Lord, in the way Matthew 25 portrays it.

You are right, keep up the good work, and thank you.

Christians are "Sealed by the Holy Spirit" unto the day of redemption. You are attempting to use your good works to enter heaven, good luck with that. Your relationship to the Savior is intellectual only, good luck with that too. Mixing works and Grace is a counterfeit gospel and will not save a flea, repent and turn to God and you will be saved.

You need to come to God on His terms; your pride and works is going the way of Cain, an unacceptable offering.

Jesus is the way the truth and the life; your works or my works will gain you absolutely nothing toward our eternal salvation. Works are the evidence that we have been saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit. Works will provide you nothing concerning our salvation. "Saved by grace through faith, not of yourself, it is a "gift of God."

Your pride will not let you accept "God's gift" You have been given the True Gospel, over and over and rerfuse to believe and everyone here on this forum has seen your rejection of the Gospel, return to God and you will be saved.

That is the custom of religious man since Cain placed his Christian brother Abel on permanent ignore. It is certainly in your power to do so.

Your HOME MADE THEOLOGY, IS FULLY FLAWED, BECAUSE YOU DID LEARN. You are supposed to be discipled by one who has already learned. So now you get a one way ticket to my Permanent Ignore List. BYE, so if everyone does the same, you have fun talking to yourself.

I would suggest that everyone puts Studyman on there IGNORE list. Click on his Avatar, the bottom of that drop box is where you can Permanently IGNORE him.

1 john 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

Galatians 2:16 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Philippians 3:9 - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith

2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Isaiah 53:11 - He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

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praise God for delievering me from the false doctrine which put my salvation on my own shoulders

and showing to me to trust in Jesus

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Ephesians 4
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

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God is a wonderful loving Father to His children, though stern and ready to chasten for wrong doing
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Hebrews 12:7-9
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
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a wicked doctrine which teaches even if you are now made new

now His son

and you sin

that He will cast you out

is not biblical

despite the many confused, or blind who push that teaching of man


...no
He corrects His children as a loving Father building them up and working in them to produce fruit

The reason you do not answer is because it will expose you to the truth that you do not want to believe in.

Read Matthew 25:32-46