Sabbath

You might want to reread that. Nowhere does it state that we keep the Sabbath to be saved.
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However because we are saved we Worship GOD and not idols. We do not take the LORD'S name in vain. We keep Sabbath. We do not kill or bear false witness. We honor our fathers and our mothers. We do not steal, covet or commit adultery.
GOD is Love. Love fulfills the Law and as HE is so are we in this world. Because It is HE that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Christ in us the hope of Glory.


And you still haven't addressed the facts related in the post.

Does Isaiah 66:23 teach that Christians will observe the weekly Sabbath in the new heaven? If Isaiah 66:23 teaches that we will keep the Jewish weekly Sabbath in the new heaven, then it also teaches we will keep the Jewish New Moon festival in heaven as well. "And it shall be from new moon to new moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all mankind will come to bow down before Me, says the Lord” - Isaiah 66:23.

If one insists on Sabbath observances based on Isaiah 66:23, they one also needs to observe new moons as well. Yet from what I hear, most Sabbatarian’s don’t observe new moons.

Will there be Levital Priests in the new heaven? If Isaiah 66:23 teaches that we will keep the Jewish Sabbath in the new heaven, then it also teaches in Isaiah 66:21 that the Levitical priests will be in the new heaven, because it is also mentioned.

What happened to the Levitical Priesthood under the new covenant terms? Priesthood changed so did the law. Hebrews 7:12 - For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.

um, a blind person can see in the above that you attached Sabbath keeping for salvation.

see, there is nothing wrong with a person choosing to keep the Sabbath. but, when one makes it a requirement for salvation, that is wrong. and unbiblical.

Just trying to point out that the Bible says we will. Unless Isaiah had it wrong...

um, a blind person can see in the above that you attached Sabbath keeping for salvation.

No where in anything posted by my hand is stated that the Sabbath is required for salvation; nowhere!

No matter what we address in his posts, he will tell us that we still have not addressed the facts related in the post.

Because you didn't. One ad hominem after another. Colossians 2:14 -16 is what was posted. These facts about it are what was posted.

Context does not demand that χειρόγραφον; the handwriting, be translated a certificate of debt; though it will work. Nothing in the Greek will translate to consist. That is a paraphrase. The clause is in the Dative and has a definite article. It should translate, "handwriting to the decrees" (ordinances) that were against us. Please notice it is not the ordinances themselves but the handwriting to them or if you like the certificate of indebtedness to the decrees. Not the decrees or ordinances which Moses penned (handwritten) but that which was against us. And certainly not the Decalogue. The handwriting to the decrees are That which was mandated due to our hardheartedness; our sinning.

Verse 16 is being stated in context to verse fourteen. The word "therefore" in verse sixteen connects what is about to be said to what was previously stated in verse 14. The meat, drink, holyday, new moon and sabbath days mentioned are those in which are contained in the Book of the Law. The handwritten to the ordinances. The Handwriting to the Decrees. Not the Decrees themselves and certainly not the Decalogue.

Nowhere in any of your post did you respond to those facts. The closest that you came was posting that Samuel; some SDA commentator had a wrote a book that said this or that about Col. 2:16. I just read what he wrote. He did not address the facts that were shared either. Beyond that all you did was post other scripture implying it backed your stance without addressing the facts shared.

and all you do is say Sabbath for salvation , then deny, then say it, then deny...…...

and all you do is say Sabbath for salvation , then deny, then say it, then deny...…...

You should get help

You should get help

just so you know- the orthodox jewish Bible translates Colossians 2 14 as " the full statue requirement of the Torah ", which was against us.

just so you know- the orthodox jewish Bible translates Colossians 2 14 as " the full statue requirement of the Torah ", which was against us.

I need no help. I just accept truth when it is clear. you have to force everything into Law keeping, so you have to alter clear truth, thus making truth non -truth to fit your religion.

You should get help

I don't read it that way. The Bible does not specifically say here, "keep the weekly Sabbath," in Isaiah 66:23 and from "one new moon to another" and from "one sabbath to another," may appear more to focus on worshipping the Lord at stipulated times during the Messianic kingdom. It would be fine with me if we bowed down before the Lord everyday.

From the Strongs....
G5618 ὥσπερ hosper (hoce'-per) adv.
1. just as, i.e. exactly like
Just as; in other words "just like".

Did GOD cease from working out HIS own Salvation or doing HIS own righteousness? No HE is our Salavation and righteousness. HE ceased from physical work on Day Seventh; the Sabbath. So we cease from our own physical work as HE did. Sure it is because it says those who enter into their rest (the Gospel) cease from their own works as GOD id from HIS. He ceased from physical work. So we; because we are now experiencing the Gospel we also on Day Seventh cease from our own work as GOD did. We cease from Physical work through HIM.


4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

For HE spake in a certain place (Mt. Sinai as one of the Commandments) of the Seventh Day on this wise and GOD did rest the Seventh Day from all HIS works. AND IN THIS AGAIN HE SPEAKS, if they shall enter into my rest (the GOSPEL). Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein (the rest to which is the GOSPEL) Those to whom it was first preached to entered not into the GOSPEL because of of unbelief (disobedience).

Again, he limiteth a certain day (a period), saying in David, To day, (a call to repentance today, right now; to accept the rest, the Gospel) after so long a time; as it is said, To day (right now) if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest ( the Gospel), then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

Verses 7 and 8 are a quote from Psalm 95 being used for a call to repentance in relation to what is being spoken in verse 6. Verses 9 and 10 pick up from verses 3-5 to hold the context of the Seventh Day being spoken of.

VERSE 5: IN THIS AGAIN (HE SPEAKS) If they shall enter into my rest. 9 There remaineth therefore a Sabbatismos; A Sabbath keeping to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest (the Gospel) , he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

From the Strongs....
G5618 ὥσπερ hosper (hoce'-per) adv.
1. just as, i.e. exactly like
Just as; in other words "just like".

Did GOD cease from working out HIS own Salvation or doing HIS own righteousness? No HE is our Salavation and righteousness. HE ceased from physical work on Day Seventh; the Sabbath. So we cease from our own physical work as HE did. Sure it is because it says those who enter into their rest (the Gospel) cease from their own works as GOD id from HIS. He ceased from physical work. So we; because we are now experiencing the Gospel we also on Day Seventh cease from our own work as GOD did. We cease from Physical work through HIM.


4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

For HE spake in a certain place (Mt. Sinai as one of the Commandments) of the Seventh Day on this wise and GOD did rest the Seventh Day from all HIS works. AND IN THIS AGAIN HE SPEAKS, if they shall enter into my rest (the GOSPEL). Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein (the rest to which is the GOSPEL) Those to whom it was first preached to entered not into the GOSPEL because of of unbelief (disobedience).

Again, he limiteth a certain day (a period), saying in David, To day, (a call to repentance today, right now; to accept the rest, the Gospel) after so long a time; as it is said, To day (right now) if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest ( the Gospel), then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

Verses 7 and 8 are a quote from Psalm 95 being used for a call to repentance in relation to what is being spoken in verse 6. Verses 9 and 10 pick up from verses 3-5 to hold the context of the Seventh Day being spoken of.

VERSE 5: IN THIS AGAIN (HE SPEAKS) If they shall enter into my rest. 9 There remaineth therefore a Sabbatismos; A Sabbath keeping to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest (the Gospel) , he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

The whole situation strikes me as somewhat similar to wearing a necklace with a cross on it. If you think of it as just something that reminds you of God, then all is well. If you think it is some kind of talisman that protect you from evil, you're probably going down the wrong path.

So it is with keeping certain days holy, whether it's a new moon day or the Passover or Christmas or a Saturday or a Sunday. If it reminds you of God, no problem.

If you think it adds to your righteousness, you're probably going down the wrong path.

I can see that there are sincere, probably godly people in real life who don't do physical labor on Saturday. If you think that adds to your righteousness, though, then you have a basis on which to judge other people for keeping or not keeping a holy day.

Everything we own belongs to God to do with at His pleasure. He directs our daily walk and we will do His will. What have we left to do for Him but little things? These little things we do differently because we think it pleases Him.

You ought to try it because when God is pleased He does things for us also. We also realize nothing we do adds to our righteousness, we don't have any. We have Christ's righteousness by grace-faith.