The HolySpirit

... God's grace of how he takes a believing sinner and places apart of himself (which is Christ) in them.

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are One.

I could see it on his face, he said do you know what would happen if I preached that type of completion, the people would feel like they do not need the church, me or anything else.
I was kind of taken back a little at his response, but I did think to my self how deceived we can be about the grace of God.
When people fall in love with God and the Christ in them you cannot keep them from fellowship and loving each other.
My personal experience is people will do more out of love than they will ever do out of a law relationship.

Your thread made me smile, but it also had me hmmmm'ing. I do think it a shame that He would not share that our completeness is found in only Him. I don't understand that. I mean the Holy Spirit's completeness should draw us to want to serve. While church can and should inspire our Faith, to me its main purpose beyond giving us a place to go for guidance and counsel, is it gives us a place to serve and give to our Brothers and Sisters. The bulk of His Holy message goes beyond our salvation, it goes into how our redemption should move us to want to appeal God's case through loving Him and others, through service. He wants us to walk out our salvation. So church isn't about thou shalt to get us perfected or just to get us saved, but about walking in the completeness of the Holy Spirit, not grieving it or quenching it. A sincere heart for servitude lights up the HS, bringing peace, love, joy, long suffering, self control ...

I know this isn't the subject of this thread, but I see doctrinal issues with both these statements.

God doesn't take a part (not "apart") of Himself in the believer; rather, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in our hearts. The Holy Spirit is not "a part" of God, as though God were divisible into bits and pieces. The Holy Spirit IS God. Further, Jesus is God, but Jesus is not the Holy Spirit. I suppose I could let this pass if it was meant in the same way that Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."

Yes, I know, I'm being picky.

No I don't take it as picky, curious how you would handle Paul's in Christ statements over 150 times though?

Some years ago I was talking to a friend of mine one day about the grace of God.
This friend pastored a small church where we lived and it was a successful church.
We had discussed the things of God on a few occasions.
This particular day we had an in-depth chat. The grace of God being the main subject.
We went back and forth about the things we understood about the grace of God.
We looked at God literally birthing his own children and them being everything God had planned before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

I went on to say I believe this is the ultimate of God's grace of how he takes a believing sinner and places apart of himself (which is Christ) in them.
My friends first thought was; wow that is some food for thought.
As we began to get in deeper in our conversation something happened to my friend.
I could see it on his face, he said do you know what would happen if I preached that type of completion, the people would feel like they do not need the church, me or anything else.
I was kind of taken back a little at his response, but I did think to my self how deceived we can be about the grace of God.
When people fall in love with God and the Christ in them you cannot keep them from fellowship and loving each other.
My personal experience is people will do more out of love than they will ever do out of a law relationship.
Feeling they must always do to be, we are be-ers by the grace of God placed in us the moment we believed.
Religion has hid this truth from the people of God simply because they do not know it.
The powerful truth Jesus spoke about the HolySpirit being poured out on the day of Penecost, John 14:20

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

You should study John chapter's 14-15-and 16. Jesus tells us exactly what the HolySpirit will do when he comes.

The power is the HolySpirit was to be poured out on that day so humanity could know something.
They could come to know the Christ in them.
You should be leery of the church's and school's that have the HolySpirit doing everything accept for what Jesus said he would do.
Jesus said he would lead you and guide you into all truth, bring Christ in you to the forefront in your understanding.
He teaches Christ, but not just any Christ, he teaches you the Christ in you the hope of glory.
We have the HolySpirit coming to this earth with the emphasis on speaking in tongues.
Some teach when he comes on you you will have great power to do what God needs you to do.
Some say you can't stay saved without the HolySpirit giving you the strength.
I believe in the power of the HolySpirit, but the power is when you see Christ as everything to you. He is your salvation, salvation is a person.
He is your life and the only true peace you will ever have.
God's emphasis is always Christ in you, do not be deceived by the many voices. Thank God for his word to be a lamp unto our feet and a light for our path.

Christ is no in someone before they recieve the Holy Spirit..

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are One..

Your thread made me smile, but it also had me hmmmm'ing. I do think it a shame that He would not share that our completeness is found in only Him. I don't understand that.

God doesn't take a part (not "apart") of Himself in the believer; rather, the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in our hearts. The Holy Spirit is not "a part" of God, as though God were divisible into bits and pieces.

How do you handle the Christ in you statements? The God head bodily dwells in the believer with christ as their life.

Christ is referred to as the seed of God.
That seed was placed in you the moment you believed

Only After they believe Jesus and trust in the Atonement that He secured for their salvation does the Holy Spirit come to dwll in us.. There is no chirst in us before this..



That's right.. Not before the moment you believed..

Paul places Christ in us as the life of the believer. Curious where you get that we are in the HolySpirit, and where is it the HolySpirit is life