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Dino246

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Under the Priesthood of Aaron, Tithing was configured to be more than 10% percent for Israel.
Under the Priesthood of Melchizedek all the people of God are not obligated to tithe, but when we do, it honors and pleases God. And it is simply one-tenth of our income, (which again is not obligatory).
I hope you understand that Melchizedek's priesthood is current.
You keep trying to pull this back to the Mosaic covenant. We're not under Law, but under Grace.
Tithing plays a part in Arron's and Melchizedek's priesthood.
The former is a priesthood of Law, the latter a priesthood of Faith.
I hope you understand that there is absolutely no support in Scripture for your assertion that tithing is 10% of our income under the priesthood of Melchizedek. There is no support for tithing "income" prior to the Law. What Abram "tithed" was war spoils, not income. Faith has nothing to do with it.

This is an excellent example of why it is a bad idea to make doctrine from narrative.
 

Adam4Eve

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I hope you understand that there is absolutely no support in Scripture for your assertion that tithing is 10% of our income under the priesthood of Melchizedek. There is no support for tithing "income" prior to the Law. What Abram "tithed" was war spoils, not income. Faith has nothing to do with it.

This is an excellent example of why it is a bad idea to make doctrine from narrative.
Yes, and not only did Abram give a tenth of war spoils, but he did so VOLUNTARILY to his ALLIES (not to God).
 

Lanolin

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I hope you found your answers in the Bible and dont need to go on about it :)

You your self said you not going to ask humans...so why ask people on this forum? We are humans, we arent God. Ask God Himself!! HE knows everything. And He will give you scripture to look into so...

Am not sure what the problem is. If you go to a church and they tell you you obligated then dont go to that church.

GOd has just shown me 1 chronicles 29

Check out verse 9 especially.

A big reason why the temple failed and the glory of the Lord departed was because those in charge were extorting the people over and above what they could afford and spending it on themselves. It literally drained peoples time and energy maintaining it all. Its like when people celebrate christmas and it gets out of hand, people go into debt thinking they have to buy presents for everyone, even adults. Um no.

If you cant give willingly, best not to give at all.
 

Diakonos

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Melchizedek is a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus.
Hebrews 7 tells us that Melchizedek had "no beginning of days or end of life and that he remains a priest perpetually".
 

JaumeJ

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Melchizedek is a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus.
Hebrews 7 tells us that Melchizedek had "no beginning of days or end of life and that he remains a priest perpetually".
God bless you this always and especially this good and holy week. Be careful with your sharing, too much truth lends to problems with the majority. All love in Jesus, Yeshua.
 
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"We're not under law, but under grace"

Yes that's exactly what I'VE been saying!

The point is that giving in these times is not obligatory.
A lot of people like that believing that we do not have to tithe for they think that is more money for themselves to enjoy.

But what does tithes mean when we can only go by our needs, and not our wants.

And the early Church sold all they had that was not a necessity, and gave to the those that had need.

Which love is the fulfilling of the law, which includes feeding the poor and needy.

And out of faith, hope, and charity, love in action, charity is the greatest.

Which Paul said he could have all faith so that he could remove mountains, but without charity he is nothing.

And said the love of money is the root of all evil, for it neglects the poor and needy, which is what it is all about.

And James says without charity their faith is dead, and John said without charity the love of God does not dwell in them.

So what does tithes mean when we can only go by our needs, and not our wants, which God only blesses us with our needs, and not our wants.

It does not matter how much money we make our lifestyle is no different.

And Paul said we do not void out the law through faith, but we establish it, live up to it, and the law is spiritual, holy, just, and good.

The Bible says a Spirit led life will not sin, for the person hates sin, and does not want sin, and God will not allow them to be tempted above what they can handle, and will give them an escape from the temptation.

Therefore they are not under the law, for all their sins are forgiven, and they are not sinning, so the law cannot touch them for prosecution.

When a person sins they are under the law whether they claim Christ or not.

A Spirit led life is not under the law, and a Spirit led life will not sin, and live up to the law.

Which I point out tithes because a lot of people like to believe that they do not have to lay them only because they like the idea that they do not have to give up ten percent of their money, but there is no money for us to enjoy, but only our needs.

And a lot of people believe they cannot abstain from sin, and they sin daily, but then believe they are not under the law, which if they are sinning they are under the law, but they want an excuse to sin and believe they are alright.

Which has nothing to do with you, for I do not know, but only pointing out that many people have a wrong concept of the truth only because they want to enjoy pleasures of the flesh.
 

JaumeJ

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Yes, tithing is Biblical, but no, it is no longer possible in the society under God today, not unless all in Jesus Christ form a country, follow all the laws of Moses which include tithing and what is should comprise.

We should support any assembly of which we are members and enjoy only if the support is for the continuation of the assembly from the pasto's pay to the caring for the less fortuanate.

As for tithing, that simply cannot exist...…….
 
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Melchizedek is a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus.
Hebrews 7 tells us that Melchizedek had "no beginning of days or end of life and that he remains a priest perpetually".
Melchizedek is a visible manifestation of God in flesh, the same as when God appeared to Abraham with 2 of His angels in the flesh.

But these were fleshy bodies made of the earth, but Jesus is a fleshy body of the virgin Mary, so while it is a visible manifestation of God it would not be Jesus for He was born of Mary, although it would be Jesus as God.

And if people believe there is a trinity, how do they know if it was the Father, or Son, or Holy Spirit that appeared to Abraham.

And the Jews had no concept of a trinity in the Old Testament, for nothing was revealed to them concerning a trinity, so it was only the Father that dealt with them, so Melchizedek would be a manifestation of the Father.

Which Jesus said in John 14 to Philip, if he had seen Him then He has seen the Father, and the words He speaks are not His own, but the Father that dwells in Him, He does the works.

Which the Father said in Isaiah 56 that He would reveal a new name to the Jews, and speak to them.

For Jesus is the only visible manifestation of God we will see in heaven, and Jesus does not sit next to the Father on a throne of His own.

For there is only one throne in heaven, and one who sits on that throne, which is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.

There is one God, and mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

And Jesus being at the right hand means that God exalted the man Christ Jesus to exercise the throne of power until His enemies are conquered, and the saints are with Jesus, and then He shall submit to the Father, stop being at the right hand so God can be all in all.

Jesus being at the right hand does not mean Jesus sits next the the Father on a throne of His own, but Jesus is the only visible manifestation of God we will see, and if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father.

Which Jesus is the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
 

Dino246

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Melchizedek is a visible manifestation of God in flesh, the same as when God appeared to Abraham with 2 of His angels in the flesh. ... And if people believe there is a trinity, how do they know if it was the Father, or Son, or Holy Spirit that appeared to Abraham.

And the Jews had no concept of a trinity in the Old Testament, for nothing was revealed to them concerning a trinity, so it was only the Father that dealt with them, so Melchizedek would be a manifestation of the Father.
1 John 4:12 states, "For no one has ever seen God." Given that Jesus had already come in the flesh, the clear implication is "God the Father", so Melchizedek could not have been a manifestation of God the Father.
 

JaumeJ

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Mechizedek by translation is King of Righteousness. He is also the King of Salem, that is King of Pece.

It is taught in Isaiah by the words given him tht the child to be born to the (a) virgin would be called, among other titles, Everlasting Father, God Almighty, Ruler of Peaqce, Comforter, Counselor and more...

This should shed much light on the matter, though I hold out no hope on that since it never has in the p0ast.

What people believe seems to be their truth.