Is Our Very Heart a Liar?

No, that isn't where He lives. He lives in the believer, but not specifically in the believer's heart.


You're re-interpreting Scripture according to your aftermarket beliefs. That's a bad idea. Instead, let Scripture form your beliefs, and let all other ideas be measured against what Scripture tells you.

Interesting that this thread talks about following your head or heart when what I really want is God to make the decision clear.
So let's say you pray that the Lord guides you in the way He would have you go in matters of the heart...but He remains silent after He blesses you with two of His best...ultimately leaving you to make this very hard decision...do you
1) go with love, deep devotion, and an unquestionable stability? Something you feel in your heart and your head.
2) go with love, crazy laughter, and the unknown possibilities that keep you on your toes ? Something you certainly feel in your heart but your head says is risky...
3) or you just keep waiting on the Lord to make the choice for you even though He may not?

Interesting that this thread talks about following your head or heart when what I really want is God to make the decision clear.
So let's say you pray that the Lord guides you in the way He would have you go in matters of the heart...but He remains silent after He blesses you with two of His best...ultimately leaving you to make this very hard decision...do you
1) go with love, deep devotion, and an unquestionable stability? Something you feel in your heart and your head.
2) go with love, crazy laughter, and the unknown possibilities that keep you on your toes ? Something you certainly feel in your heart but your head says is risky...
3) or you just keep waiting on the Lord to make the choice for you even though He may not?

To fully, trully love someone we are to accept them just the way they are. WHo cares about the kind of money they have or what car they drive.

That is idolatry. Why should we even focus of the materialistics of life when what matters is how that person makes you feel?

Yes we should all examine ourselves, i say we all that includeds myself as well.

I guess this is my point all along since rhe begining of my registration here im CC it just took a little time to see it.

To love someone is to love them for who and what they are in Christ, it is never that high expectation that can never be filled.

To fully, trully love someone we are to accept them just the way they are. WHo cares about the kind of money they have or what car they drive.

That is idolatry. Why should we even focus of the materialistics of life when what matters is how that person makes you feel?

Yes we should all examine ourselves, i say we all that includeds myself as well.

I guess this is my point all along since rhe begining of my registration here im CC it just took a little time to see it.

To love someone is to love them for who and what they are in Christ, it is never that high expectation that can never be filled.

To fully, trully love someone we are to accept them just the way they are. WHo cares about the kind of money they have or what car they drive.

That is idolatry. Why should we even focus of the materialistics of life when what matters is how that person makes you feel?

Yes we should all examine ourselves, i say we all that includeds myself as well.

I guess this is my point all along since rhe begining of my registration here im CC it just took a little time to see it.

To love someone is to love them for who and what they are in Christ, it is never that high expectation that can never be filled.

If you two have that connection, then what else matters anyway? Who cares what the world says, only care what The Lord says.

And godly love (not just in romance but in all relational areas) says " I love and accept you where you're at, but I love you too much to be ok with leaving you there"

Sister Cinder,
I believe this is a small part of an even bigger purpose He has for me concerning an individual I feel this way about. He has shown me the big picture. I have felt this so strongly from the Holy Spirit. I have asked if this is that test of my ability to trust in Him to direct my path. I have stepped out of His will many times and He has used the consequences to teach me to listen more intently.
I'm listening very carefully right now.

Who ever said that all that matters in relationships is how another person makes you feel? That's certainly not the Biblical standard and not the counsel of God. More than romance or feelings based decisions the Bible talks about asking for wisdom and makes it sound in places ( like James 1) that God is always willing to grant it. And when considering trying to blend two backgrounds, lives, sets of habits and goals, and value systems together, you're going to need a whole lot more than just a warm fuzzy feeling to navigate all that and keep liking the other person long term. And godly love (not just in romance but in all relational areas) says " I love and accept you where you're at, but I love you too much to be ok with leaving you there" It's just not loving to accept the oppression of sin on someone's life as the way they are and always will be; the gospel teaches just the opposite, it teaches the Christ makes us new creations ( 2 Cor 5:17).

But you may yet inspire me to write a thread of my own about have we become a culture (or maybe church) that worships our feelings and what are the implications of that. I just have to find time to think through it coherently and get it down on paper.

Who ever said that all that matters in relationships is how another person makes you feel? That's certainly not the Biblical standard and not the counsel of God. More than romance or feelings based decisions the Bible talks about asking for wisdom and makes it sound in places ( like James 1) that God is always willing to grant it. And when considering trying to blend two backgrounds, lives, sets of habits and goals, and value systems together, you're going to need a whole lot more than just a warm fuzzy feeling to navigate all that and keep liking the other person long term. And godly love (not just in romance but in all relational areas) says " I love and accept you where you're at, but I love you too much to be ok with leaving you there" It's just not loving to accept the oppression of sin on someone's life as the way they are and always will be; the gospel teaches just the opposite, it teaches the Christ makes us new creations ( 2 Cor 5:17).

But you may yet inspire me to write a thread of my own about have we become a culture (or maybe church) that worships our feelings and what are the implications of that. I just have to find time to think through it coherently and get it down on paper.

And how you feel? You hafta ask yourself this very question.


Is it inline with God and His will?
Is it love? Or is it lust?
Are they in love with God and you? Or is it just you.

Thats why NOTHING else matters except for them to be inlove with God and you. To love you not to lust over you,.

Then you will know by the emotion that it was meant to be.

Everyone sees a man for who he is in the Lord if he leads a disgunctional life style his house will crumble.

Would a disgunctional life style mean that his life is gastronomically challenged?

Sorry.

I'm just in a joking kind of mood.

The first thing that came to mind when I read the OP was Genesis 6:5, when God was observing right before He decided to send The Flood, destroy all of creation, and start over:

"And the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was continually evil."

I've read varying estimates as to how many people were on the earth at that time, but no matter how many it was, God saw it fit to save only 8 people - Noah, his three sons, and their wives.

Now I know some people will argue that this was the old Testament, but I have often wondered - if God did the same thing again today, and destroyed the earth, how many people's hearts would have something worth saving... and... would I be among them?

Most days, I don't know, because I know my heart needs a lot of work.