Americanized Thinking

what is sin? how do you define it?

Anything that goes against Gods will, commands or laws. Anything unclean or impure.

In spite of the terrible sins that David committed (which was as bad as you can get), it did not stop God from His Son being called the "Son of David." Those who walk in the spirit will always have shortcomings (acts of sin) until the trump sounds.

Again you have misinterpreted I have sinned with my thoughts not my actions. And again this is about the way think about sin. And the way that I become and we all come completely sinless is changing the way we think about sin and become aware of the lies we have been fed.

yes. and more. the actual definition of the word sin ( in the greek ) is to miss the mark, fall short of God's standards.

so, then James went on to say that to " know to do good and not do so ".

Paul said " what ever is not of faith is sin".

so, when we start talking about not sinning, we have to be sure all those descriptions define if we do or not.

I would like to suggest that a lot of us Christian Americans have been falsely thought to think that we can't live sin free lives. For example my pastor says "we cant be sinless, but we should sin less". And obviously I agree with that and I know I am a sinner saved by grace. But it's that kind of thinking that gives the devil a foothold. Its that kind of thinking that keeps us enslaved to the very thing God died to set us free from. Also there are various scriptures to support that we can indeed do all we can to live sin free lives. Such as God wont let us be tempted beyond what we can bear and will provide a way out. So if God says he will provide a way out, that he is able to make me stand, and that his Holy spirit within me is greater than he who is in than world. Then why do we keep THINKING that we won't be able to live sin free lives. Of course, maybe its just me maybe noone else has been taught to think this way. However for my brothers and sisters who have been taught this just as I have you might want to join me in just thinking how Jesus thinks and not how the world or America thinks.

Stay Woke 🙏✌

Again I'm talking about the way we keep thinking that we are going to keep sinning. Eventually the sin that we keep thinking we are going to commit manifest itself. I'm saying we are suppose to think like Jesus thinks and our thoughts are suppose to match up with his. And to say that Jesus thinks we should keep on failing and sinning is completely wrong, so why do we keep thinking we are going to keep failing and sinning? Also every time we sin we are telling God that we don't trust him to provide a way out, or provide what we need so we take matters into our own hands. So again this is about how we think about sin.

There are other statements in your post that I may address later. For now, I'll choose to focus on this last word, "woke".

To borrow a line from Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it means."

everybody sins after having believed because by faith have to crucify you own old self

Why just Christian Americans doing the false thoughts? Paul, even though a Christian, said he still does the things that he shouldn't do and neglects to do the things that he should do. Three times he prayed for God to remove the thorn in his flesh but God said that His grace was sufficient. During the life-long repentance process you turn away from the sins that drag you down but you will still occasionally stumble, because after all, we have not been made perfect yet. I agree with your pastor. I haven't seen a single passage in the bible that states that a born again Christian will never sin again. I would not get hung up on what America thinks or even the rest of the world for that matter.

Which is partly the point I'm trying to make. If indeed we have crucified our passions and desires and are dead now and alive in Christ why are we thinking about sinning in the future? Im suppose to be thinking about holiness, my flesh and desires are no longer suppose to matter to me, so why do I keep thinking that I am sin again in twenty minutes?

I completely agree with everything that you said, and again this is about us THINKING we are going to keep sinning. For example, if I keep thinking I'm never going to break the cycle then ill never break the cycle. But if I'm constantly THINKING of Gods amazing saving grace then anytime sin comes my way in the future I should be able to overcome it because God said I'm more than a conqueror!

I completely understand everything that you have said, but again constantly thinking that God is going to let me down, or let me fall is me not putting all my faith in him. My faith alone is Jesus is what saves me and his blood is what cleanses me. Also, I understand that God sees me through Jesus which means in his eyes I'm perfect. I literally don't understand what everyone is missing. Someone telling me that I'm going to keep sinning over and over again until the day of Christ's return. Is them literally telling me not to put all my faith and trust in Jesus. They are literally telling me to expect God (who HATES sin) not to provide a way out when I am tempted. They are literally saying that He who is in me, isn't greater than he who is in the world if im going to always be bound to sin. The same sin Jesus died to free me from. And he who the Son sets free is free indeed. Not almost free COMPLETELY free. Now if y'all don't want to be free, if y'all want to keep thinking that your always going to sin thats your business. Essentially, someone going around teaching people that they are always going to sin when they serve a perfect God who is way bigger than Sin and is able to keep them from falling does Jesus a complete disservice. No where in the Bible does it state that we are going to have to sin for the rest of our lives!

here is the reason- we have a sin nature. you do not have to teach kids when they are young not to be selfish , mean, and dishonsty.

we have a proclivity for doing wrong, so, the flesh and the Sprit ( born again Sprit ) are at war inside of us, as Paul described in Romans.

Anything that goes against Gods will, commands or laws. Anything unclean or impure.

what does holy mean then?