A NON-CHARISMATIC UNDERSTANDING OF TONGUES
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If they SEE God is that not a sign? Just a different kind of sign? People believe that the Word is living, and that it will speak to them, is that not a sign? We have signs all around us.
If a church rejects it how can it work? It cannot work if people flat out reject the idea of these signs and tongues. The Holy Spirit works in all churchs. But I would argue that some other churches have seen visions and mine has not, why is God selecting that one church to give visions to? Different churches needed different methods. God is not a one size fits all, how could he be when the Church is worldwise and spreads over generations?
If a church rejects it how can it work? It cannot work if people flat out reject the idea of these signs and tongues. The Holy Spirit works in all churchs. But I would argue that some other churches have seen visions and mine has not, why is God selecting that one church to give visions to? Different churches needed different methods. God is not a one size fits all, how could he be when the Church is worldwise and spreads over generations?
Lets say we go with the interpretation you are quoting for arguments sake. If we look at the verse below:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels... (1 Corinthians 13:1).
We can see that Paul said he speaks with tongues(languages of men and of angels, which backs my idea of tongues as being both earthly language AND heavenly(Spiritual) language. And if you continue in 1 Corinthians 14 you will continue to see how Paul explains how it should be used in the church. It is used in the early church and is still used today.
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels... (1 Corinthians 13:1).
We can see that Paul said he speaks with tongues(languages of men and of angels, which backs my idea of tongues as being both earthly language AND heavenly(Spiritual) language. And if you continue in 1 Corinthians 14 you will continue to see how Paul explains how it should be used in the church. It is used in the early church and is still used today.
In the Old Testament people were saved under the old covenant through the sacrifice of pure animals. In the new covenant Jesus was the pure being that was sacrificed.
God has not changed, the method of how someone attains the clearing of their sins has changed between convanents. And the Holy Spirit under the new convanent has made it so that God lives within us.
God has not changed, the method of how someone attains the clearing of their sins has changed between convanents. And the Holy Spirit under the new convanent has made it so that God lives within us.
But does that mean that we just stick our head in the sand and wait for Jesus to come back? If Jesus comes back and we simply stick our head in the sand he will wonder what we are doing, especially with the parable that was told about the man who hid his coin and did nothing with it. We are called to help others find Jesus, if we do not seek Jesus we will only fall backwards. We need to find out when God is speaking when other forces are speaking to us. Otherwise we will never truly be able to follow God's direction.
My faith is in Jesus. But that is besides the point that is being argued. The point being argued is that we need to have faith in what God is telling us through the Spirit. If we do not listen to what the Spirit is telling us, which you and others seem to think we should do, not listen to what our Spirit is saying but rather ignore it altogether. Then we have missed a large point of our Christian walk. We are to walk in the direction that God directs us through the Spirit. Which we cannot do if we try to restrain the leading of the Spirit.
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MANY think they are following the Holy Spirit's direction. But we are told to test the spirits because not all are of God. EVERYTHING the Holy Spirit does glorifies Jesus Christ, and points people to Him. That is His role. He will sanctify us into the likeness of Christ. ANY word, or prophecy that ANYONE receives, that is contrary to the Word in ANY way, is of a different spirit. Do you think THESE people think they have a different spirit than the Holy Spirit?
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We need more than the scripture for direction, my friend. If you read the scripture you would see this.
John 14:26 says "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."
The HOLY SPIRIT will do these thing, not the scripture. The scripture is VERY important but it CANNOT replace God's voice through the Holy Spirit.
John 14:26 says "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."
The HOLY SPIRIT will do these thing, not the scripture. The scripture is VERY important but it CANNOT replace God's voice through the Holy Spirit.
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