Mystery Babylon

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TheDivineWatermark said:
What about this Bible verse from the Word of God:

"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.” Genesis 1:26

https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-26.htm [shows to be "plurals" at the right hand column]
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That very next verse says...

Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." (NOT created they them).

St. John 14:10 records Jesus saying, "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The WORDS that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that DWELLETH IN ME, he doeth the works.


And, with that in mind lets consider the following...

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
[11] I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.


John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[7] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
[8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?


Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

For your consideration, Jesus is the God of the Old Testament incarnate.

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
[24} I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
[27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

-Thank you.
 
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Footprint said:
That very next verse says...

Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." (NOT created they them).

St. John 14:10 records Jesus saying, "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The WORDS that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that DWELLETH IN ME, he doeth the works.


And, with that in mind lets consider the following...

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
[11] I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.


John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[7] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
[8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?


Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

For your consideration, Jesus is the God of the Old Testament incarnate.

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
[24} I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
[27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

-Thank you.
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Ok but most christians dont really talk about trinity its only catholics and theologians that try to make a huge doctrine out of it. If you know that Jesus is Lord then, there isnt a problem with Father and Son being one.
 
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The whoring part isnt about whehter there are one or two or three parts of the Godhead. I do not get that from revelation.
Its about the fornication of idolatry. Greed, and sins and iniquity. What are abominations of the earth?

The whore glorifies herself and lives deliciously. All the luxury goods she has are listed...gold, silver, precious stones

What does it mean, she lives DELICIOUSLY?
 
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Lanolin said:
The whoring part isnt about whehter there are one or two or three parts of the Godhead. I do not get that from revelation.
Its about the fornication of idolatry. Greed, and sins and iniquity. What are abominations of the earth?

The whore glorifies herself and lives deliciously. All the luxury goods she has are listed...gold, silver, precious stones

What does it mean, she lives DELICIOUSLY?
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Remember,

We are talking about the MOTHER of harlots.

In her hayday, Isreal was but a small peace of the puzzle who happened to get caught up in the mothers harlotries. And she payed dearly for those sins, and still praying today
 
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The interesting thing about the descriptions in revelation of the holy city, is that the gold and silver and precious stones are used as part of heavens foundarions not adorning the people like they are in Babylon and the saints arent covered in jewellery either just wearing white linen robes.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Riddle me this, What is so great about jerusalem that makes it be such a worldwide influencer that the worldwide leader will have to destroy it because it is a worldwide threat to him and his army?
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Something to ponder.......

A house divided against itself cannot stand right?

The Beast/Anti-Christ is empowered by SATAN right?

Why would he need to destroy ROME and the Catholic religion....it is obviously NOT of GOD and has led MILLIONS if not billions to hell........

and ON top of that the current POPE is leading the charge of uniting ALL religions under one banner...NOT of GOD either

Why would SATAN need to destroy his OWN HOUSE......

Because it is not ROME brother.........NEITHER is it JERUSALEM which you already know.....
 
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UnderGrace said:
I believe it was Tertullian who was the originator.
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No, actually it was GOD and his use of plural in GENESIS <---Hebrew

Singular = 1
Dual = Pairs or two's
Plural = THREE or more

God breathed into ADAM the breath of LIVES <----PLURAL

Physical LIFE
Spiritual LIFE
Intellectual LIFE

3 in 1 by design........
 
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dcontroversal said:
Something to ponder.......

A house divided against itself cannot stand right?

The Beast/Anti-Christ is empowered by SATAN right?

Why would he need to destroy ROME and the Catholic religion....it is obviously NOT of GOD and has led MILLIONS if not billions to hell........

and ON top of that the current POPE is leading the charge of uniting ALL religions under one banner...NOT of GOD either

Why would SATAN need to destroy his OWN HOUSE......

Because it is not ROME brother.........NEITHER is it JERUSALEM which you already know.....
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It’s easy

The church would not worship the beast. And she wields enough influence that she could harm him

Jerusalem has no power to do anything
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
It’s easy

The church would not worship the beast. And she wields enough influence that she could harm him

Jerusalem has no power to do anything
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HAHAHHAH sure.....!

a. The Catholic Church is NOT the church
b. The Catholic Church WORSHIPS and promotes IDOLS
c. The Catholic Church is of Satan
d. Satan's house is not divided

Try again.......

I do agree with point number 2
 
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So if it's not Rome, and it's not Jerusalem, then who is it?
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John was as familiar with Rome as one can be when he penned Revelation and he called it a MYSTERY CITY, A MEGA City where the KINGS of the earth MEET.....NEITHER ROME nor JERUSALEM meet or FIT all of the characteristics of that MYSTERY CITY found in REVELATION.............and regardless of ALL the banter, denial, heads in the sand......there is ONLY ONE city on the PLANET that MEETS all of the qualifications applied unto that city.....WHICH BY THE WAY was NAMED BABYLON by the JEWS in 1872.......BUT HEY......I am not going to argue against the facts.....nor will I take two square pegs (ROME/JERUSALEM) and try to cram and hammer them into the round hole......

LIST all the facts applied in REVELATION applied unto THAT CITY and just simply let the facts speak.............
 
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dcontroversal said:
John was as familiar with Rome as one can be when he penned Revelation and he called it a MYSTERY CITY, A MEGA City where the KINGS of the earth MEET.....NEITHER ROME nor JERUSALEM meet or FIT all of the characteristics of that MYSTERY CITY found in REVELATION.............and regardless of ALL the banter, denial, heads in the sand......there is ONLY ONE city on the PLANET that MEETS all of the qualifications applied unto that city.....WHICH BY THE WAY was NAMED BABYLON by the JEWS in 1872.......BUT HEY......I am not going to argue against the facts.....nor will I take two square pegs (ROME/JERUSALEM) and try to cram and hammer them into the round hole......

LIST all the facts applied in REVELATION applied unto THAT CITY and just simply let the facts speak.............
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Interesting. So how does Revelation 18:24 apply to New York or the US?

"And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.” Revelation 18:24
 
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Interesting. So how does Revelation 18:24 apply to New York or the US?

"And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.” Revelation 18:24
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That is where history comes into play........God has a unique ability to BLEND and weave historicity and historical context........MANY do not understand that the O.T. contains the rise of GENTILE world power under the banner of a MYSTERY religion manifested with many different faces, yet the same FALSE god behind the faces........It began with BABYLON and will END with BABYLON before it is said and done.........MANY will flat deny and argue the following truth.......the biggest LONG term detriment to biblical Christianity is ABSOLUTE freedom to WORSHIP as YOU PLEASE <-------contractually guaranteed by our constitution.........SHOW me that biblical principle

GOD is SPIRIT and they that worship him MUST worship him in spirit and in truth <------NOT HOWEVER WE PLEASE............NOW.....think about that principle peddled under Democracy...........is that of GOD?
 
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Interesting. So how does Revelation 18:24 apply to New York or the US?

"And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.” Revelation 18:24
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A second aspect...........the end result of the MYSTERY religion is the worship of Satan in a man as GOD........coming with the BEAST and his SYSTEM of worship <---IMAGE with power

ALL worldly kingdoms, history etc. has been CONDITIONING HUMANITY to receive the MAN of SIN as GOD........it took a global effort and time to bring about this end game if you will......and like I said....it started with BABYLON and ENDS with BABYLON...........from DAY ONE the SERPENT has been attempting to be worshiped as god in a man.......and BABYLON is but a vehicle that will set the world stage to accomplish this goal.....

A complete study of false gods of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and what Rome devolves and transforms into (Blended with Islam) has really opened my eyes.....
 
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Ok so we can expect to see another city rise up called Babylon? Or maybe its meaning a city thats very cosmopilitsn where all languages are spoken.


What about....china?
China is known as the dragon....and they do worship this beast (in chinese folk religion, dragons are power, and supposedly good as they are so clever at manipulation)
Beijings name is 'the forbidden city' ...there was a massacre in Tianamen square that they tried to cover up.
Hmm oh also, christians are persecuted there. The church has to go underground.
And china is a huge trading country now. Plus have you seen all the treasures the emporors in China had? I would say the luxury and gaudiness of their thrones and halls of power puts the Vatican to shame.
 
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Plus if there is one thing the Chinese know how to do well, is live deliciously. Their food is even better than Italian cuisine.
 
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dcontroversal said:
HAHAHHAH sure.....!

a. The Catholic Church is NOT the church
b. The Catholic Church WORSHIPS and promotes IDOLS
c. The Catholic Church is of Satan
d. Satan's house is not divided

Try again.......

I do agree with point number 2
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You missed my point bro

1. The harlot is a false which who acts like the real church
2. Yes, they worship idols. That is paganism, which IS the harlot
3. Satan has MANY forms of religions he uses to do his will. But he will have to destroy them because some hold alot of influence and can actually work against him. Yes, Rme is pagan and Yes it is satanic in my view. But many people there are decieved, When they start seeing things which is they can no longer brush away as just coincidence, many will turn. And I am not sure the pope. Who wields great power. Is going to give that power up quietly.

Once again,

Rome?

Jerusalem?

Rome fits MUCH MUCH better.

Also remember, the woman (Israel) is told to go to th mountains, where God will protect her And when he returns, he puts feet on ground at mount of olives spliting the mount into two. And takes up residencey in Jerusalem in the temple

How can he do this is the city and temple are in ruins??

 
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Lanolin said:
Ok so we can expect to see another city rise up called Babylon? Or maybe its meaning a city thats very cosmopilitsn where all languages are spoken.


What about....china?
China is known as the dragon....and they do worship this beast (in chinese folk religion, dragons are power, and supposedly good as they are so clever at manipulation)
Beijings name is 'the forbidden city' ...there was a massacre in Tianamen square that they tried to cover up.
Hmm oh also, christians are persecuted there. The church has to go underground.
And china is a huge trading country now. Plus have you seen all the treasures the emporors in China had? I would say the luxury and gaudiness of their thrones and halls of power puts the Vatican to shame.
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Again, the name Babylon gives it away. WHat came out of babylon and spread to the whole earth, and wielded great power in whoever held its flag (even today)
 
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