Born Again Speaking in Tongues

You are not perfect, you never will be while in the flesh.

Oh boy

You misrepresent him again

And get over yourself dude, We do not lose our minds over red x’s

Your false accusations are getting tiresome.

I never said I was

I said GOD has considered or made me perfect IN CHRIST.

Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

These are the words of scripture

At any given moment, we are in two states

Positionally in Christ, we are perfected forever (The words perfected is in the perfect tense, which in the greek means it is a completed action. This was accomplished for me at the cross. And attributed to me the moment I was saved)

Conditionally, I am in the state of “being sanctified” which means at any moment, God is working in my life to sanctify or set me apart, Because I have not yet met the state I am positionally in christ (I am a work in process)

The author of Hebrews state both of these FACTS are applicable to me at this very moment,

So I am not sure what your trying to argue here. Either you agree with these words of God or you do not.

Wait for the coming of the Bridegroom, who never knew sin. Till then, watch, wait and worship Him in spirit and in truth.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us - Τον μη γνοντα ἁμαρτιαν, ὑπερ ἡμων ἁμαρτιαν εποιησεν· He made him who knew no sin, (who was innocent), a sin-offering for us. The word ἁμαρτια occurs here twice: in the first place it means sin, i.e. transgression and guilt; and of Christ it is said, He knew no sin, i.e. was innocent; for not to know sin is the same as to be conscious of innocence; so, nil conscire sibi, to be conscious of nothing against one’s self, is the same as nulla pallescere culpa, to be unimpeachable.

In the second place, it signifies a sin-offering, or sacrifice for sin, and answers to the חטאה chattaah and חטאת chattath of the Hebrew text; which signifies both sin and sin-offering in a great variety of places in the Pentateuch. The Septuagint translate the Hebrew word by ἁμαρτια in ninety-four places in Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers, where a sin-offering is meant; and where our version translates the word not sin, but an offering for sin.

Had our translators attended to their own method of translating the word in other places where it means the same as here, they would not have given this false view of a passage which has been made the foundation of a most blasphemous doctrine; viz. that our sins were imputed to Christ, and that he was a proper object of the indignation of Divine justice, because he was blackened with imputed sin; and some have proceeded so far in this blasphemous career as to say, that Christ may be considered as the greatest of sinners, because all the sins of mankind, or of the elect, as they say, were imputed to him, and reckoned as his own.

(Adam Clarke)

I am waiting

But as paul said in ephesians, I am just as saved now as I will be saved when that day happens.


If this is not true, I have no hope. If I have no hope. I have no faith. And I am waisting my time trying to grow in christ, Because I will fail utterly.

Once again, Those words are true, And As I showed. The word perfected is in the perfect tense, a completed action.

Either you agree, or you do not. But I will stick wiht the word as written..

Well, good luck, you can always modify your views a little, till then I will say goodbye and God bless.

I'm loathe to get in the middle of this thing, but I think a few things need to be said.

A good while back you said something along the lines to me of "I know you don't like me, so I don't care what you say". What I didn't like is that you indeed were constantly threatening people with some form of admin punishment, and worse, publicly. Some may have deserved it, but most just found themselves on an opposing side of an issue. Things get a little heated, and BAM!! The threat ensued. Not that it means much, but I actually DO like you. You have made me think in ways I may not have, and I thank you for that.

For whatever reason, you went away for a span. When you came back, for a long time, it looked like you were able to engage without the threats. That's when your thoughts really carried weight, and got interesting. Alas, it seems the old patterns have reemerged.

For instance, DC didn't call you a spade in the negative sense. He used a very common idiom. Not sure how you could have not known that.

Obviously just my own thoughts here, but it seems to me to be a little inappropriate for a mod, with ban powers to be so deeply engaged in such volatile topics. I don't see how a person can remain fair and unbiased. And that is nothing against you. I would feel the same whether a mod was on my side of an issue as well.

Jesus said "my sheep hear/know my voice"
Knowing Jesus,fellowshipping with Him,spending time with Him,and walking in faith.
Ironically those with a mental,doctrinal MINDSET can not/will not, venture into intimacy with Jesus,and tirelessly plead with the wise virgins to stop that oil foolishness. It is the IRONY OF IRONIES.
Intimacy oil,and truth is reserved for the bride.
The bride has oil. The bride in mat 25 goes into the marrige chamber. The door is not left open. It is is immediately shut.
While the foolish scramble for oil (Holy Spirit) it becomes too late.

Get it now.

Get it,or get left out.

If you are afraid the devil will imitate Jesus and you can be deceived by this false Jesus and he can decieve you while you seek heaven,then you never read where Jesus takes the time to show you THAT CAN NOT HAPPEN.
Show me anyplace where that happened.
Show me paul or anyone in the NT laying hands on anyone to recieve the second blessing and the devil steps in,pushes God aside, and posseses that person.
Can't happen.
I know from experience.
See,you guys got an insurmountable problem.
You are trying to convince John.after patmos,that God dont do that vision or translation stuff anymore.

first off that is your opinion. second I will not talk to you about other members I have had issues with because you do not know all my interaction with the people you have named. Thirdly I have not banned any of those who you have mentioned. So you are wrong. I have not threatened anyone Yet I can tell you not one time have I ever posted in contrast to those with different Biblical understanding anything that was rude or confrontational they have done so first to others in the room. I should Just as you say it BAM! and see them gone. And in my comments (as you say) about not liking me, I would like to see that and where because there is more context than what you have provided. Also what I find very interesting is the underline digs that many do,

" Not sure how you could not known that" What do you mean?. Again I have not banned anyone and If as others like to do think as a Mod I cannot have a position? I have not called anyone devils or unsaved yet those very same people suggest and say that to a mod. I should say nothing and Bam just ban right? I respect you and I think I have said that however, I do find it funny that you would evaluate my actions yet I have not seen you speak to those who have insulted Pentecostals and Charismatics? I don't see you coming to the defense for those who are rudely attacked and named names unless it is one you may agree with. That is your opinion and I do not agree

Look. You, and the other mods have a tough, and mostly thankless job. I have found this site to be extremely good at discerning the difference between rough play, purposeful hurtful posts, and outright trolls. We all recognize we need to put on our big boy pants when we step into the BDF. But through all the turmoil there is growth in all sorts of ways. But that wasn't my point.

I think you are missing my point. It would be like playing a basketball game with a referee playing on the opposing team, with the power to eject a player, instead of monitoring the game as an unbiased official It's seems reasonable that the referee would recuse himself from being a referee if he wanted to actually play in the game.

I'm not gonna research back all the times I have seen you do similar posts to THIS: Post# 1228 "The next time you refer to me as Spade you will not be here. And that my friend is a fact. "
How this can be construed any other way than a mod threatening a member with expulsion is beyond me. And what does it matter what has transpired with this poster before? We hold grudges?

"Calling a spade a spade" has been a very familiar figure of speech forever, or at least as long as I can remember. You appeared to let your emotions call the shots. And that's fine, we ALL get passionate about stuff from time to time, but the difference is none of US are mods.

That was the only example I used because it was fresh. I didn't mention a single other poster.

Finally, it's mostly not my place to call out other members who have heated disputes with other members. That's why I wasn't crazy about doing it here. But I think there is the larger issue at stake as I outlined. There have been several bitter, broken, and sometimes very nasty people I either put on ignore or ignore in practice.

I hope you won't just have a kneejerk reaction to this. I truly meant it when I was happy to see you engage without the threats for so long.

Look. You, and the other mods have a tough, and mostly thankless job. I have found this site to be extremely good at discerning the difference between rough play, purposeful hurtful posts, and outright trolls. We all recognize we need to put on our big boy pants when we step into the BDF. But through all the turmoil there is growth in all sorts of ways. But that wasn't my point.

I think you are missing my point. It would be like playing a basketball game with a referee playing on the opposing team, with the power to eject a player, instead of monitoring the game as an unbiased official It's seems reasonable that the referee would recuse himself from being a referee if he wanted to actually play in the game.

I'm not gonna research back all the times I have seen you do similar posts to THIS: Post# 1228 "The next time you refer to me as Spade you will not be here. And that my friend is a fact. "
How this can be construed any other way than a mod threatening a member with expulsion is beyond me. And what does it matter what has transpired with this poster before? We hold grudges?

"Calling a spade a spade" has been a very familiar figure of speech forever, or at least as long as I can remember. You appeared to let your emotions call the shots. And that's fine, we ALL get passionate about stuff from time to time, but the difference is none of US are mods.

That was the only example I used because it was fresh. I didn't mention a single other poster.

Finally, it's mostly not my place to call out other members who have heated disputes with other members. That's why I wasn't crazy about doing it here. But I think there is the larger issue at stake as I outlined. There have been several bitter, broken, and sometimes very nasty people I either put on ignore or ignore in practice.

I hope you won't just have a kneejerk reaction to this. I truly meant it when I was happy to see you engage without the threats for so long.

You are somebody who can interpret tongues!!? Fantastic!

Can you please interpret these tongues?

this was not confrontational LOL

I thought that video was rather informative.... truly inspiring how he wrapped it up with "this is normal"....

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I thought that video was rather informative.... truly inspiring how he wrapped it up with "this is normal"....

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Video? Did I miss the joke? Lol

oK LOL SO THE VIDEO explains the 1cor 12 to 14 and the Book of Acts application of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and tongues and interpretation? That is not even something I agree with LOL Yes

lol brother penned posted a video awhile back

CS1 quoted it kinda playfully


i was just joining in and joking 😅


it is definitely not an informative video