Baptist and Baptism

And...you found what? Why wouldn't you post what you found?

oh I actually agree baptism is required. s

o you judge me too harshly , however I always look for all answers and do not shut out things.

we need to look at what if someone gives their heart to Jesus and beleives , but dies before they get water baptised. There will be many exceptions where people are not water baptised and die, and also not holy spirit baptised and die.

IF someone repents, confesses their sins, and asks Christ to become Lord of their lives, they ARE baptized with the precious blood of Christ which cleanses them of their sins BY the Holy Spirit.

Y'all can deny all y'all want........one day y'all will face Him and then there won't be anything but the gnashing of teeth and crying for the mountain to fall upon you and cover you

You apparently didn't google why the o is left out of God.........I did

Baptists have believed in salvation by grace alone, and baptism only of adult believers who have already made a saving profession of faith ever since the denomination first originated in the 1600's.

AFAIK they have never believed in baptismal regeneration. they have always believed in immersive baptism as one of two ordinances ((not sacraments)), along with the Lord's supper, always rejected pedobaptism, and always believed that both ordinances were not in and of themselves salvific but were meant to be taken part in by those who are regenerate -- regenerate by faith, not works.

i dunno what weird pseudo-baptist church you went to in the 1950's or whether, being a youth then, you were either misinformed or misunderstood the message. H20 does not save. rites do not save. Jesus saves, and He does so according to belief.

That is an opinion. Please show me factual proof.

Again, my findings so far says it has been a re-interpretation of scriptures since the 1960's.

Prove that wrong.

Absolutely we are washed,

But the bible at Pentecost describes the baptism of the Holy Spirit . whilst JEsus was on Earth he couldn't send the comforter he said. So no one was baptised in holy spirit until the day of pentecost.

would seem only one part of God on earth at any time . maybe

You are wrong. ...and with the other comments...you need to study the Bible.
You can state ...all you wish...I am looking for proof. I am looking for a document(s) of proof..... for 1600's.....?

Absolutely we are washed,

But the bible at Pentecost describes the baptism of the Holy Spirit . whilst JEsus was on Earth he couldn't send the comforter he said. So no one was baptised in holy spirit until the day of pentecost.

would seem only one part of God on earth at any time . maybe

Here:

Hi, I received your comment and want to explain exactly why we do this. According to Jewish law and tradition, the various names for our Creator are all considered holy and must be treated with the utmost respect. If there is a paper with the name written out in full, then it cannot be thrown away, but actually we take all such papers and bury them properly in the ground and keep them separate from other things (see Proper Disposal of Holy Objects). Clearly many readers print out our material. We cannot have a situation where they read the article and then throw it in the garbage with the word with the "o" as that is disrespecting His holy name. It is therefore traditional to insert the dash so that there is no issue.

Why "G‑d" instead of "G-o-d"? - Questions & Answers

Now........go away and quit pretending to be a teacher of the Word

Know who taught that water baptism did not save? A well known Southern Baptist Preacher, Teacher and Author:
Adrian Rogers.

(just saying)

When Christ said: Today shalt thou be with me in paradise

Christ is God the Son, and nothing is impossible for God

What he wasn't was water baptized

Please show scriptural proof?

Not at all ....a contribution.

Adrian Rogers

He sadly taught the following:

We’re talking about a person who has received Christ into his heart by faith, who has become a partaker of the divine nature, who has been twice born, who has received the new birth. This person can never, ever, ever again be a lost soul.

(How You Can Be Sure You Are Eternally Secure, audio-tape RA-1728, part 1, 8/1/93).

His statement is typical for a Southern Baptist “pastor”, which Adrian Rogers was. His doctrine implies that NO SIN, regardless what it may be, or becoming a heretic could ever produce spiritual death. This is wrong.

I am looking for a document(s) of proof..... for 1600's.....?

have recently been made aware that the Baptist denomination has re-interpreted the Bible to say that baptism is not necessary for salvation, even though scripture says ...very clearly...it is required.

I have recently been made aware that the Baptist denomination has re-interpreted the Bible to say that baptism is not necessary for salvation, even though scripture says ...very clearly...it is required.

A person can receive the Spirit before baptism, or after baptism.