Are you under the Curse

If no one is under the law then how does it make sense that some people try to keep them spiritually?

Wouldn't only those who are under the law attempt to keep them spiritually?


See what I mean when I say it just seems like a bunch of word games?

Not if we use the law as a sort of template to direct us to what is sinful and what is not. That is the way I feel God wants me to view it.

When I meditate on God's law, His Spirit directs me through the scriptures.

He is not the Great Speed Cop in the sky that some make Him out.

I don't feel He will swat me for not doing His precepts. They were placed to minister to us. View attachment 202823

The law didn't already direct you to what is sinful?

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Why does scripture say that once we have come to Christ and have faith in Him we are no longer under the law??

Shouldn't scripture say that once faith is come we are to use the law as a sort of template to direct us to what is sin and what is not?

Do you feel God is directing you to go back to the law against what Paul tells you here about His Son Christ?


That last sentence is pretty good, I have to at least give you that. I wonder if you understand more than you are letting on... Sometimes it seems like you get it.

The truth you must understand is that because Jesus Christ was a law keeper, the Christian is a law keeper.

Well Grandpa, by the way I am a great-grandpa; if you don't find the law helpful to direct your walk with our Lord, fine. I am just saying I do. Oh, I get it. The Lord and I, we have got this! View attachment 202824

WE are not under the curse of the law Why would anyone want to be. Our Savior took away the curse of the law and we are under his grace and love.

In my time here I've often notice through the way many discuss this topic that many interpret the phrase "the curse of the law", to mean "the curse, that is the law". And interpret "works of the law" to mean "everything written to be followed in the law".

I think it would help if we fleshed out these phrases.

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There is The Law.


Written in The Law are:

A) Instructions (to walk in)
B) Blessings (for obeying)
C) Curses (for disobedience/sins)
D) Works (for cleansing of sins); performed by levitical priesthood

When the Israelites broke The Law - by not walking in its (A) instructions - they were subject to the (C) curses detailed in The Law. They were placed "under" those curses and were required to perform the (D) "works" found in The Law to cleanse themselves of their sin.

...but the "works" (for cleansing of sins) were just examples that taught what Christ would later do to *truly* cleanse sins...like a "schoolmaster" for students, teaching a class on the subject of "cleansing sins". To be performed over and over as a rehearsal, never really doing anything to take away the sins.


After Christ, those "works" (for cleansing of sin) are no longer needed. Simply having faith that Christ is doing the real work in heaven is sufficient (faith because we can not see the priestly work being performed like the Israelites could witness daily in the temple).


Still existing in The Law are:

A) Instructions (to walk in)
B) Blessings (for obeying)
C) Curses (for disobedience/sins)

But with a change to The Law:

D) Faith in Christ (for cleansing of sins); just confess sins at the heavenly throne. Levitical priesthood no longer needed. Nothing else needed to die.


After this change, any Israelite who would go back to performing the old (D) "works" (for cleansing of sin) - After Christ - was effectively denying the true work of cleansing...and if they're denying the true cleansing they're still "under" the (C) curses and still in their sins.

Meanwhile, those who have faith in Christ were cleansed and no longer under the curses...but were still expected to follow the (A) instructions to "sin no more" so as to not make the blood of Christ worthless, receiving (B) blessings for their obedience.

They are free from the (C) curse of the law.

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So "the curse of the law" = the law's curses (for committing sins)

And "the works of the law" = the law's works (for cleansing sins)

And "under the law" = under the law's punishment (the curses)

Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

If you are still looking to the law for instruction in righteousness and blessing then you are not dead to it.

Since you are not dead to it then you are subject to its curse, which is;

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

You aren't going to "sin no more" by looking to the law and trying to obey your understanding of what you think it says.

The only way you can "sin no more" is by abiding in Christ, trusting in Christ.

Romans 8:2-7
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

Galatians 3:11-12
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.