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"i am even above the pope" - Pope aside, with all Biblical prophets and apostles who actually saw God, the result was humility, claiming you're above anyone else is so not the point... it really doesn't matter who of us has authority, but who is building up the Kingdom of God and making Jesus happy. We are disciples. Why does everyone want to be a prophet or elder nowadays??? We have no shortage of prophets and elders. On the other side, workers of miracles, we could use some of that...
"I beheld" etc. - a person sharing their experience in "dat sacred text style" is immediate red flag as a likely false prophet. They always want to add that extra glitz to their experience to make themselves look special. There is no need to coat God's truth into an ancient way of speech. Maybe you did have a genuine experience with God, but you are going an off way about it and it is a pity. Not every experience is to be shared before the congregation, or not until led. Apostle Paul hid in his heart his experiences of being taken up to heaven for 14 years (!) out of regard for holy things... If this was from God based on the reactions you're getting I don't believe you were led to share. It might have been meant for you personally as something to remember in your life and help you keep your walk on point.
"I beheld" etc. - a person sharing their experience in "dat sacred text style" is immediate red flag as a likely false prophet. They always want to add that extra glitz to their experience to make themselves look special. There is no need to coat God's truth into an ancient way of speech. Maybe you did have a genuine experience with God, but you are going an off way about it and it is a pity. Not every experience is to be shared before the congregation, or not until led. Apostle Paul hid in his heart his experiences of being taken up to heaven for 14 years (!) out of regard for holy things... If this was from God based on the reactions you're getting I don't believe you were led to share. It might have been meant for you personally as something to remember in your life and help you keep your walk on point.
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Test the spirits. The mystery of God is not yet finished. Faith is not yet sight.
Consider also that seeing spiritual things is not always a good thing...I would highly encourage you to read the story of Balaam in Numbers (his error is also mentioned in the NT). He heard from the Lord and also was party to something that only occurred once. It wasn't a good thing though.
Also Saul's consultation and that it did indeed achieve results...although not what he wanted. There are penalties for certain things, believer or not.
Divination is a thing and depending on the circumstances of your visions I would be leery.
I gave you enough to show that you can indeed have real visions (not factoring in the typical counterfeits) but that depending on the "how" there are serious consequences.
So I would be curious to know how these came about.
Also consider that Paul did not feel it appropriate to share his "personal experiences" and neither do I.
I want to...but at the same time, how would anyone connect really? They are personal. Incredibly so.
The book of Revelation was at least prophecy and has purpose but if a vision does not edify, provide direction or unlock scripture in some way...best to keep it to yourself until you know the purpose.
I'm sure there are other uses also but I'm still deciding personally...
Anyway, I guess I'll end with the fact that there are counterfeit experiences out there. I'm not going to call all of them counterfeit just that the fruit and doctrine MUST line up with the word.
Also recall "the shack"...extremely suspect based off the fruit of his experience...namely the book, his personal understandings, what happened later and so forth. Probably many examples of this but it's a simple one.
Test the spirits. The mystery of God is not yet finished. Faith is not yet sight.
Consider also that seeing spiritual things is not always a good thing...I would highly encourage you to read the story of Balaam in Numbers (his error is also mentioned in the NT). He heard from the Lord and also was party to something that only occurred once. It wasn't a good thing though.
Also Saul's consultation and that it did indeed achieve results...although not what he wanted. There are penalties for certain things, believer or not.
Divination is a thing and depending on the circumstances of your visions I would be leery.
I gave you enough to show that you can indeed have real visions (not factoring in the typical counterfeits) but that depending on the "how" there are serious consequences.
So I would be curious to know how these came about.
Also consider that Paul did not feel it appropriate to share his "personal experiences" and neither do I.
I want to...but at the same time, how would anyone connect really? They are personal. Incredibly so.
The book of Revelation was at least prophecy and has purpose but if a vision does not edify, provide direction or unlock scripture in some way...best to keep it to yourself until you know the purpose.
I'm sure there are other uses also but I'm still deciding personally...
Anyway, I guess I'll end with the fact that there are counterfeit experiences out there. I'm not going to call all of them counterfeit just that the fruit and doctrine MUST line up with the word.
Also recall "the shack"...extremely suspect based off the fruit of his experience...namely the book, his personal understandings, what happened later and so forth. Probably many examples of this but it's a simple one.
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